Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

The upcoming "Kingdra Meta"

you are right mrdraz07, kingdra needs 2 turns and a bulk training for kill a average stage 2 pkmn. kingdra is fast but doesn't do a massive damage. his first attack is for a late game, because you need 13 energy in your discard pile for ohko a average stage 2. Kingdra is a good card but he is not broken (until the release of bronzong dp6 ***).

Blaziken 1111, I have the pixies (fetuses) deck. This deck can set up in t2 or t3, depending of wich trainer list you can use. With snow point he easyly resist the attacks of kingdra before i can complete set up and beat kingdra with one hit before he complete his set up.

Pixies deck is superior to kingdra, he doesn't need donk kingdra for win.
 
His first attack isn't nessicarely for late game. It you discard at least 3 energy per turn you can get 12 energy in the discard in about 4 or less turns. Also most of the time it won't be doing more than 100 damage becasue of all the spread and plus powers.

Also once again I have not tested this matchup but I wouldn't think pixies is that much better than kingdra becasue kingdra gets set up about T3 or 4. And thats at least 2 or 3 kingdra and a claydol or 2. And kingdra can easily kill a sprite with spread and plus powers. So really both decks are exchanging kills the only difference is that sprites need at least 2 turns to get set up. Then again kingdra is a stage 2 but most of the time there will be a lot of kingdras on the bench. Azelf doesn't really do anything because there will probaly be no more than 4 energy in play and uxie does't do much. Once again I have no idea how amu works but I know the match is no more than 45-55 in amu's favor.
 
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The next set will make the metagame very diverse.
Plox, AMU, and Kingdra will prolly be in the top 3. BUT, Luxray and other rogue variants will be very vaible come the next set.
It'll be fun and the set after will make it even more fun.
 
Froslass.
Me and Advant Garde (Teeam in my sig) have been testing the next format for as long as we've been able to, and against Kingdra a good Froslass deck has no problems taking it down. Spread enough damage the Devo one of their Candied Kingdras.
Other things couter it as well, but Froslass is prolly your best bet.
 
PLOX will not be in the top 3.

There's just no way, even with energy accel.

AMU just creams it.

Kingdra can win a plox match, too.
 
Brawler1624 said:
PLOX will not be in the top 3.

There's just no way, even with energy accel.

AMU just creams it.

Kingdra can win a plox match, too.
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lol, are you serious?
Have you tested Plox with Togekiss.
It's such a good deck. I tested it against today's plox list and it sets up just as fast and is an easy 50-50 even though it lacks DREs/Scrambles.

And, Kingdra fails HORRIBLY agianst Plox. I'm sorry but constant 60 and locking their Claydols is just too much.
You OHKO anything in AMU while stopping their powers too.
I will say that AMU may have the upper hand. I've never tested it yet.
 
Plox owns Kingdra?
No, it certainly doesn't.
A consistent 60, while locking Claydol is definitely not enough to stop Kingdra. 60 every turn? Big whoop. Kingdra's 130 hp means that it will be able to take three Psychic Locks until it gets KO'd. Whereas Kingdra can easily 2hko Gardevoir and Gallade (after damage spread).
I've played a fair few games with Kingdra against the GG decks of now, and Kingdra has the game.
And seeing as how Plox/GG will slow down after DP-on, it will have NO problem beating DP-on Plox.
Kingdra failing HORRIBLY against Plox.
lol. Thats funny. You must be testing against some terrible, terrible Kingdra list.
 
Professor Elm said:
lol, are you serious?
Have you tested Plox with Togekiss.
It's such a good deck. I tested it against today's plox list and it sets up just as fast and is an easy 50-50 even though it lacks DREs/Scrambles.

And, Kingdra fails HORRIBLY agianst Plox. I'm sorry but constant 60 and locking their Claydols is just too much.
You OHKO anything in AMU while stopping their powers too.
I will say that AMU may have the upper hand. I've never tested it yet.
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How do you plan on pulling OHKO's on AMU? I would think its the other way around, and AMU doesn't even need powers. :/
 
DarthPika is right, the only thing that could OHKO something in UMA is Gallade, as Azelf Lv.X makes your :psychic: pokemon have no weakness.

however, this thread isn't about Plox, it's about Kingdra.

While IMO, i want Kingdra to fail miserably and the fact that it is also overhyped IMO, it is a pretty good card, however, there are some decks out there that could give it a hard time (i.e Tentacruel/Lanturn, MagneVire, Leafeon Variants, etc.)

However i am not pleased to report that Kingdra will be as dominate as much, if not more, than G&G/Plox. Unless there is a way to stop it, i am pretty much ready for a boring/Kingdra filled season till we get IFDS
 
Kingdra will never be as dominant as GG has been this format. Nothing will.
There are plenty of decks that beat Kingdra, you don't have to worry about it being uber dominant.
Heck, I hope that EVERYONE at BR's and Cities plays Kingdra, then I'll have no problem taking all of them.
 
Professor Elm said:
lol, are you serious?
Have you tested Plox with Togekiss.
It's such a good deck. I tested it against today's plox list and it sets up just as fast and is an easy 50-50 even though it lacks DREs/Scrambles.

And, Kingdra fails HORRIBLY agianst Plox. I'm sorry but constant 60 and locking their Claydols is just too much.
You OHKO anything in AMU while stopping their powers too.
I will say that AMU may have the upper hand. I've never tested it yet.
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Uxie-Azelf-Mesprit owns Plox.

None of the sprites have weaknesses. God Blast OHKOs everything for 2. Togekiss will only help Azelf snipe.

Kingdra is too fast for Plox. There will be KO'd Ralts lying everywhere.

Kingdra is by no means unbeatable, however. Wild Tangrowth beats it. Blissey + Togekiss = a boost that doesn't go away at the end of your turn.
 
Kingdra Meta it will be for the first two three BRs,but after that people are gonna swarm with Leafy variants and better cards. Next format can be diverse unless people revert back to trying to play PLOX/Gardilade in droves like this season. Kingdra is good but Vire becomes viable,Leafeon is still going to be played,we are getting alot of grass with water resis,and to many techs to counter each other.

Regice LA has to be in Kingdra,its only a great tech.
 
A good Neo Plox beats Kingra into pieces.
Also, if AMU is strong, Plox can use Azelf to get rid of the weakness and should have a good chance. (if you get out the azelf fast)

If Plox locks Kignra, it will not have anything to discard and run out of speed pretty soon.
But if everyone here believes kingra can do T2 60&20 consistantly... Will just not happen that often...
 
believe me blaziken, pixies can set up in turn 2 or 3 for max. that can be possible if you use great ball, quick ball and premier ball in you trainer engine. For the energy requiriment of mesprit you use energy patch and energy transfer for do 200 damage every turn, with a line of 2-2 of every pixie. the others pixies are sacrifices if you can't charge mesprit in one turn.
 
Yoshi- said:
A good Neo Plox beats Kingra into pieces.
Also, if AMU is strong, Plox can use Azelf to get rid of the weakness and should have a good chance. (if you get out the azelf fast)

If Plox locks Kignra, it will not have anything to discard and run out of speed pretty soon.
But if everyone here believes kingra can do T2 60&20 consistantly... Will just not happen that often...
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I see Neo Plox getting out-speeded badly by Kingdra.

Gardie and Gallade don't need a weakness to get OHKO'ed by God Blast. It's not about the weakness, it's the speed and disruption that Plox won't be able to handle. The best thing you could do with your Plox deck would be to use Mewtwo Lv. X to stop the pixie assault. Otherwise, Plox loses bad.

As for Kingdra, it's more like, 60-20, 60-20, 60-20, 60,20, 100+ for Reverse stream.

If that 60-20 is on T-1, Ralts is a goner. Kingdra will be scoring KO's long before you start Psychic Locking, if you ever do.
megatron007 said:
believe me blaziken, pixies can set up in turn 2 or 3 for max. that can be possible if you use great ball, quick ball and premier ball in you trainer engine. For the energy requiriment of mesprit you use energy patch and energy transfer for do 200 damage every turn, with a line of 2-2 of every pixie. the others pixies are sacrifices if you can't charge mesprit in one turn.
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A 3-1 line of pixies is best for max synergy. Azelf has Time-Walk, so no need to worry about elves in the prizes. It's been tested. 2 of each Lv. X just reduces the disruption.
 
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Wouldn't you want to try to get some MT Azelf action in there to screw around with opposing AMUs and the Mewtwo Lv.X deck, if that ever comes into existence?
 
G-Dog4377 said:
Wouldn't you want to try to get some MT Azelf action in there to screw around with opposing AMUs and the Mewtwo Lv.X deck, if that ever comes into existence?
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Look up "Tri-force" in the Deck Help forum.

If using the Lv.X sprites, you should use 2 of each MT sprite and one of each LA sprite.
 
Kingdra is overhyped--but still quite good. One to two energy decks will be big in the beginning of this season in order to keep up with Kingdra. I
I've done a lot, and I mean A LOT of testing, and my most successful matches against Kingdra were with Lighthouse Lure(Ampharos-Tentacruel-Lanturn), Torterra, and Kabutops.

Let me explain real quick about these matchups.

TentaTurn/What you want to call it vs. Kingdra 60-40

I play this deck with an Absol start to kill Rare Candy starts and get energy in the discard as quickly as possible. It absolutely destroys theiur hand unless they get Claydol up, in which case it still does plenty of damage. Even though they're usually smart enough not to attach any energy to their Bench if they can help it, which is smart because Kingdra only needs one energy to attack, a Lake Boundary with an Ampharos can be devastating. They'll take 3 turns to KO you, by which time you could have killed 3 Kingdras, and powered up another Amph. Also, if Lanturn's attack DOES apply weakness, which the translation does not specify, it's even more deadly.

Torterra vs. Kingdra 65-35

Water resistance usually helps avoid an early donk., and Torterra can be very quick played right. If you can get Torterra level X out and power up a Torterra on your Bench, it's over for them. Their max damage output just isn't high enough.

Kabutops vs. Kingdra 60-40

If you can get Kabu-lock up early enough, they are really really hurt. Kingdra often relies on trainers because it mmakes for speedier setup, and rare candy becomes out of the question as well.They won't be able to build back up fast enough, and when they do, you probably already have a second Kabutops ready to attack. Trainer lock is devastating to this deck, as well as AMU.
 
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That Ampharos-Lanturn-Tentacruel deck is a simply amazing idea. Your opponent won't want to attach any energy. Love it.

If only Electivire Lv. X's body worked while it's benched.
 
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