Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

To PSA or Not To?

Kalyst

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Perhaps this may have been asked before but Id like to know people's thoughts/opinions of grading, the various graders, what's worth it and what isn't, as well as opinions on the future of grading as an archiving tool.

Specific questions-
What grading service do you take seriously? (PSA Beckett etc) and why? Have you ever used either service before and if so, explain the pros and cons of using either service provider

What's the pros and cons of grading cards versus not grading them?

How expensive is it to archive graded cards in a portfolio/binder/case (or whatever is possible to use for the plastic cases so that you can look through the collection like you would a binder)?

In your opinion, do you think grading cards is a good practice or investment on cards you know will have collectibility? Why or why not?

Have you ever disputed a graded card before it ever got a graded card back with a lower grade than it deserved?

How drastic is the price difference between a 9 and a 10 (or a 9.5 and a 10)? Is that price difference enough to seek only the best of the best grades?

Would you ever crack open a graded case? If so, under what circumstance would you do so?

Whew, that was a lot of questions hope it's not too much to answer haha!


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Hi Kalyst, I'll try to answer your questions to the best of my knowledge and personal experience :)

1) I take both PSA and Beckett seriously. Both are the top companies out there as far as grading cards is concerned. Although both adhere to different sets of rules/guidelines, they're for the most part pretty consistent and strict with their grades. That may vary of course depending on the individuals who happen to grade your cards. Some are more likely to downgrade you for any type of damage to the card than others, since at the end of the day, grading is somewhat subjective. Both services have been pretty good to me, but I prefer PSA over Beckett. Pros and Cons? Well, for PSA the major Pro (I guess this depends on what you want to do with your graded cards) is that PSA cards generate more profit than Beckett graded cards. Most of the top-selling graded cards on eBay are PSA graded, while Beckett graded cards don't sell as well. One con is that the PSA case is pretty simple compared to the cases Beckett uses. Beckett definitely gets points for presentation; their case, IMO, looks better. But again, you have to weigh Presentation vs Value, and decide which is more important to you.

2) Pros (why you'd want to get them graded): Cards look better in the graded case, showing off (lol jk), Cards increase exponentially in value, better
protection from getting folded/creased
Cons (why you'd think twice about grading your cards): Can be expensive to encapsulate your cards, takes a while to get your cards back, cards can
still get dinged up/scratched by sliding around inside the case, takes more space to store your graded cards, you aren't guaranteed any specific grade so
sometimes you risk getting a lower grade than what you're expecting

3) I think it is a good practice/investment to have cards graded regardless of your intentions, but it's especially essential if you're looking to make big amounts of cash from re-selling singles. Most "good" cards you can resell for a quick few bucks without getting them graded... but if you take the time and money to invest in having those cards graded, you might end up with close to $100 or more for just one card :O For example, Charizard cards are generally a good bet to have graded. With the exception of only a few, Charizard cards are worth at least an easy $15 non-graded, so getting them graded can increase that value. How much it increases depends on the grade you get.

4) Haven't had a grade that was less than what I expected so far, but then again I've only submitted a few times. Hopefully I don't have to disupute a grade anytime soon lol.

5) The difference between a 9 and a 10 can be huge, depending on the card. Some cards vary by $150+ from a 9 to a 10. It all depends on the demand of that card, and how many 10's have been recorded by PSA/Beckett.

6) Yes, I'd crack open a case, probably just for fun...lol. I think you can just resubmit the card in the same case if you don't agree with the grade, but I'm unsure. I do know that you can get it cross-graded by the other company that you didn't chose to grade it the first time, and you can just send in the card with the case.

Hope that helps :)
 
cards can
still get dinged up/scratched by sliding around inside the case

I'd like to see evidence of this.
Although they can move around in cases, I've been told to rest assured that the small movement does not in fact damage the cards in any way.


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OP,

There is no PSA 9.5. PSA 9 - Mint. PSA 10 - Gem Mint. There is no reason to have a grade between Mint and Gem Mint according to PSA, and I agree.
I highly suggest not even attempting to crack open cases yourself, chances are you will damage the card in the process.

I highly suggest grading cards you want to keep yourself. If you are wanting to grade to resell, you might want to consider why you are doing this.
It's a great way to have a "finite" condition that will not change, but at the same time, it becomes a lot more costly, and more room to store cards.
 
I'd like to see evidence of this.
Although they can move around in cases, I've been told to rest assured that the small movement does not in fact damage the cards in any way.
You shake the case around and hard enough, the card should get some sort of corner/edgewear. Or so, I've heard. but it makes sense that that would happen.

@Kalyst I forgot to answer your question regarding the storage of your graded cards. As far as I know, there isn't a binder available where you can store them, so your best bet would be to buy one of those row boxes for graded cards. Maybe you can't display them as easily/conveniently as you could in a binder, but there aren't a whole lot of options out there for storing your graded cards. The boxes can be found for cheap prices if you look around.
 
Perhaps this may have been asked before but Id like to know people's thoughts/opinions of grading, the various graders, what's worth it and what isn't, as well as opinions on the future of grading as an archiving tool.

Specific questions-
What grading service do you take seriously? (PSA Beckett etc) and why? Have you ever used either service before and if so, explain the pros and cons of using either service provider

In the grading world with regards to Pokemon, PSA is the best way to go. Beckett is a great company don't get me wrong, but a PSA 10 version of a card will sell for much more than a Beckett grade 10 card. I personally prefer PSA, as I think their presentation of the cards in the case is much more aesthetically pleasing than a Beckett graded card. Regardless, if you plan on grading your card for re-sell/retaining value, I would suggest PSA.



What's the pros and cons of grading cards versus not grading them?

Grading cards will help them to retain their value over the years, and also help to keep that particular card in whatever condition it was in when it was put into the case. Graded cases are much harder to tamper with/break than your standard top-loader or however you store your cards. The only real con of grading is simply the cost. Unless you send a bunch of cards at one time, I believe is it something like $14 to grade one card by PSA. I normally send around 50 cards at a time, and it costs roughly $400 to get them all graded. If you are on a tight budget, grading may not be a feasible option for you. The only other con I could think of it that if a card you get graded receives a poor grade, or one that you were not expecting, it is going to be nearly impossible to get it out of the grading case without damaging the card.



How expensive is it to archive graded cards in a portfolio/binder/case (or whatever is possible to use for the plastic cases so that you can look through the collection like you would a binder)?

To my knowledge, there is only one binder that can store graded cards, and it is called a Monster Binder (just google it and it should pop right up). Of course you could always frame cards, depending on how much time/money/etc you have to spend. I personally am storing my graded cards in the Monster binders, and they run about $60 a pop for one binder (bit pricey I know). They are actually pretty sturdy binders, and can hold up to four cards per page.



In your opinion, do you think grading cards is a good practice or investment on cards you know will have collectibility? Why or why not?

I know many people, including quite a few users on here, that make quite a nice bit of cash by grading and then re-selling cards. However, like most investments, there is always a catch. As I stated above, grading can become quite costly, therefore unless you are 99.9% sure that the cards you are sending in will attain a high grade, you may wind up with a card receiving a poor grade. Generally speaking, cards that receives a grade of 8 or less, don't normally tend to sell well. Obviously there will be exceptions to this case, but a general rule of thumb is don't send a card in to be graded unless you are sure it will receive at least a 9. I would only recommend this kind of investment if you do a bunch of research, and essentially learn the trade. Also understand that if you choose this path, the profits may be nice, but they will not be instant. The cheapest way to grade cards takes roughly 45-60 days, and that does not include shipping to PA and getting your cards back. You may see profit, but as I said before it will not be instant.


Have you ever disputed a graded card before it ever got a graded card back with a lower grade than it deserved?

I have never personally disputed a grade, and I have only heard of a few exceptions where a dispute actually help achieve a higher grade for a card. The reason for this is that when a card is graded, it has to go through a minimum (four I believe?) number of graders before it is given a value. This helps to get a few different opinions from a few different graders, therefore the grade is not just based on one person's judgement. The only dispute I see that is common, is title dispute. Sometimes PSA/Beckett will slip up and incorrectly title one of your cards. They offer to change the title, you will just need to ship it back to them.


How drastic is the price difference between a 9 and a 10 (or a 9.5 and a 10)? Is that price difference enough to seek only the best of the best grades?


Beckett prices are a bit shotty, because the market for those kinds of cards is extremely slim. However, there are drastic price differences with regards to PSA. PokemonTrader posted this in another topic, and I believe it is quite and accurate rule. For most cards (of course there will always be exceptions, especially with extremely rare cards), you can expect the price to double for a PSA 9 grade, and triple/quadruple for a PSA 10 grade. As I said before, most collectors out there who are interested in purchasing graded cards, typically don't buy grades lower than 9s. Seeing as these prices differ drastically from ungraded counterparts, I would recommend seeking the best of the best when it comes to buying graded cards.


Would you ever crack open a graded case? If so, under what circumstance would you do so?

As stated above, I would not recommend ever cracking open a case. It will be nearly impossible to do so without damaging the card.




Hope all this info helps to answer your questions! Cheers.
-Colton
 
"but a PSA 10 version of a card will sell for much more than a Beckett grade 10 card"

Just to head off any confusion...the above is not true. In just about all cases a BGS 10 is more valuable and waaaay harder to get;)
 
"but a PSA 10 version of a card will sell for much more than a Beckett grade 10 card"

Just to head off any confusion...the above is not true. In just about all cases a BGS 10 is more valuable and waaaay harder to get;)

lol PSA grades much harder than BGS and PSA 10 are worth way more in pokemon what are you talking about
 
Axew, wrong.

BCCG < PSA < BGS
In terms of a strict 10 standard.
PSA allows for leeway in 10s, as above there is no 9.5.
That being said, that .5 grade makes it so there are cards in limbo... Either a great 9 or a less than perfect 10.
Makes sense? Whereas BGS has grades for multiple things.
 
@gary - That was a typo on my part, I should have stated that a Beckett 9.5 sells for less than a PSA 10 grade (in the majority of cases). I understand that Beckett 10s are much harder to come by, so that is my fault. It was a super long post so I knew that I was going to make a mistake somewhere in it, but thank you for the correction :)

@axew - I would actually disagree with that statement. Even though PSA sells for more in most cases when it comes to the same grades, Beckett actually has a stricter grade point system than PSA does. The only reason that PSA typically sells for a higher dollar amount is mainly based on popularity, not because one company is better than the other.
 
@gary - That was a typo on my part, I should have stated that a Beckett 9.5 sells for less than a PSA 10 grade (in the majority of cases). I understand that Beckett 10s are much harder to come by, so that is my fault. It was a super long post so I knew that I was going to make a mistake somewhere in it, but thank you for the correction :)

@axew - I would actually disagree with that statement. Even though PSA sells for more in most cases when it comes to the same grades, Beckett actually has a stricter grade point system than PSA does. The only reason that PSA typically sells for a higher dollar amount is mainly based on popularity, not because one company is better than the other.

Hey brother.
Yes then, a 9.5 is closer ofcourse:)
And I agree that axew is off base on all of that too.
 
I appreciate how a Beckett Pristine 10 is a real treasure! Finding a card worthy of this grade is almost impossible due to so many printing imperfections. My guess is only 20 Pokemon cards have received a Beckett 10. I've only seen one in person.
 
I appreciate how a Beckett Pristine 10 is a real treasure! Finding a card worthy of this grade is almost impossible due to so many printing imperfections. My guess is only 20 Pokemon cards have received a Beckett 10. I've only seen one in person.

Your right Frank.
I think I have the only BGS 10 with all four 10 subgrades though;)
 
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