Undefeated Indianapolis CC report
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Thanks Matt!
First off Drew, we're talking about one card, max, as an issue here. Not an entire hand. The Rowan called for all but one card to be shuffled in.
Second, as I noted above, I don't think we have all the facts given here. I do not think we even have a case of the player shuffling that one card in before the ruling was made.
That is the difficulty with this after-the-fact third party giving of rulings. We're not privvy to the full story.
TheDarkTwins
Active Member
Doesnt matter, the fact is if you shuffle any cards that your not suppose to, which is the supposed scenario here it is, an automatic game loss. I have heard a few of the POP employee state that they dont condone the ruling of losing your hand. You can tell that player you lost that card now draw 5 or 4. It changes the whole game to a place where you just cant fix it. While it may not be a huge error the floor rules state it is a game loss. I want to know what you would call this error so I can look it up. I just cant justify anything but a game loss in this situation. I think what we need is to have someone who can make an official rule on this so we dont have a bunch of people going back and forth.
JMO,
Drew
Pop, I regret to say that the player did indeed shuffle the one card that he was to keep into his deck accidentilly (as in, when I was called over, he had NO cards in his hand when he was supposed to have ONE).
Snowball, I do not think that what happened was a small mistake by any means, and I know that. The simple fact is that after the PTO was brought into it, it was decided that since both players initialled the match report and turned it in, without protesting this error beforehand, we had to move on. We DEFINITELY had to awknowledge the mistake, but the match was reported officially, and we had to take the result as is.
If I could change what happened, I would, but I can not.
Umbreon777
New Member
Thank you. ^^ It was pretty intense when I had my shades on in a dim-lighted room. :lol:
L00p_H01eS
New Member
Beforehand, I apologize for not knowing the names of some of my opponents. If you recognize the match, inform me if you can on who it was.
I played Gallevoir with Furret and Stantler. 5 rounds of swiss and T4.
Round 1 - vs ???? with Sandslash/Machamp
I get a decent hand and start using Furret early. After I got my Gallade and Gard set up, it was hard for her to come back. Everytime she sent up a new pokemon, I flipped over another prize and KO'd it.
1-0
Round 2 - vs Henry F. with Magnezone stall
A friend of mine from school, he plays his deck by sending out Magnemites and Bronzors to stall while he sets up a huge Magnezone. There was no damage done for quite a few turns. Once I set up 2 Gallades, the combination of Sonic Blade and Psy Cut got the best of him. Quite a long game.
2-0
Lunchbreak
Burger King is disgusting. But its nice when you dont have to pay for it.
Round 3 - vs James A. (DragonairMaster8) with Feraligatr/Gardevoir/Absol
This was by far the weirdest deck I have ever seen. He starts with Absol and I Stantler. I got lucky a few times when he bailful winded the wrong cards. I managed to get a Gallade and DRE out, while he kept discarding. At one point I had rare candy and Stantler in my hand, and he got the Stantler. I topdecked Gardy. :thumb: Finally ignoring his discard, I KO'd 3 Absol with Psy Cut. He was quite unfortunate to not get a Gardevoir out the entire game, so I proceeded to knock out his Gatrs and win the game.
3-0
Round 4 - vs ???? with Magmortar/Arcanine
My opening hand was Ralts, Candy, Celio, DRE, and others. I go second and pull a Roseanne. I play Celio, candy to Gallade, DRE, and Sonic Blade for 20 to a lone Magmar. He Mentors for more basics and does Smog with 2 PP's for 40 and poison. I use Roseanne for a Sentret and energy. I attach and Psy Cut. Throughout the duration of the game, that T3 setup just killed his entire game.
4-0
Round 5 - Matt G. with BufferBliss
He got 2 mulligans, and I start with Minun. :nonono: Im not sure exactly what happened, but I remember rare candying a played Senret into Furret to get set-up. Even though he had FF's, Buffers, and Drake, I managed to win through a combination of Sonic Blade and Psy Cut.
5-0
Top 4 - vs Matt G. with BufferBliss
Both games really happened the same way. Him having weakness to my godly set-up resulted in him losing the first 2 games in under 20 minutes. A surprise Lake Boundary helped me a lot. At one point, I didnt play a Ralts on my bench, giving me 5 cards in my hand. He played Copycat next turn, and his 5th card was exactly what he needed. Blissey. I still won, but I could have done it faster.
6-0
Top 2 - vs James A. (DragonairMaster8) with Feraligatr/Gardevoir/Absol
The first game was rather quick. Even though his bailful winds hurt, he had troubles setting up and I still managed to set up a nice Gallade for some KO's. He scoops after I take 3 prizes.
The second game was EPIC. I cant get ANY evolutions really early. I had a Ralts with 3 energy, and his Absol discarded the useless junk in my hand. This time he actually got quite set-up. I managed to pull Celios with Stantler and got myself Kirlia and Gardevoir, slowly... After the Gardy was on my field, the supporter play improved greatly. We both had Stevens Advice, and 5-6 pokemon on our bench. This game was very back and forth once I got my Gallade out and started to actually do something. I knocked out his Gardy Lv X with a PP'd Psy Lock. In the meantime, his set-up was depleting. By the end I had 2 prizes, 9 cards in my deck, and a warp point in hand. All I had to do was KO his Feraligatr so he sends out Gardy, and next turn warp point and knock out either Totodile or Absol. Once I KO Gatr, he wagers. (I have 9 cards in my deck) I win and get 6. No warp point. He does damage but no KO to my Gallade. I draw. Not it. I use MINUN's minus charge, and get the last 2. It was on bottom. I play it, flip a prize and do 80 to his active Crocnaw. VERY good game.
7-0
So, horray for Dustin. Going 7-0 (technically 9-0). Its the first tournament where I really feel successful.
PROPS
Going undefeated
Matt G. and Tracy K. for coming down from Michigan
Henry F. for buying me lunch. :smile:
Winning a raffle for 3 packs, and getting Crawdaunt EX
Good attendance for a central Indy tournament
Gallade
GOLDUCK(!!!)
SLOPS
An accidental ruling made that cuased Tracy K. to lose a game when she should have won
Burger King for being... bad
Having to use the restroom about 12 times while I was there.
Absol
how can u use minun's power if none of ur pokemon was knocked out????
Umbreon777
New Member
That appears to be a mistype. He DID knock out Gallade. Because I stongly remember using the power after something was KO'd. Thank you. ^^