ey wood hit me up i got some wood engine to show you, i think youll like it in your deck
anyway I like dat STINKING STINKING monarchy goin on, you defenitly dont need no 4-4 weezing though more like 1-1, unless dats part of the stanky fish engine or somethin i dont even kno all these engines
Crobat and Weezing. 30 in between turns, and 50 damage done to anyone. ...Pretty.
Crobat and Weezing. 30 in between turns, and 50 damage done to anyone. ...Pretty.
low energy cost for crobat and weezing. Resistance to Gallade, and free retreat. What's not to like?
Gardevoir is what is not to like. Psychic lock could just give you a dose of your own poison by not even allowing you to poison them.
Absol not only would resists you, but could also poison your set.
TOO MUCH POISON GOING AROUND IN THIS FORMAT.
Correct me if im wrong, but Gardevoir doesnt stop PokePowers?
*read the card*
Yes, stop Powers. Only causes problems to Crobat... but Venomoth is still viable...
I'm sorry. You should read what I post.
Not once did I mention Venomoth in my post. Surely it's been mention in this thread. But don't insult my intelligence about this game. I don't care about Venomoth, I care about Crobat. As I've liked the card since the spoilers but the current format just doesn't allow for it to be played effectively.
as far as I can tell through the horrid abuse of the English language here it sounds like you're saying only 1-1 Weezing should be used.
Weezing's body stacks, so you actually do benefit from having more than one Weezing in play - each Weezing is an additional damage counter for Poison.
Good point. Gardy will hurt, but it's also weak to Psychic and as you say "low energy cost for crobat and weezing, and free retreat." The poisoning attacks of the Queen line may help.low energy cost for crobat and weezing. Resistance to Gallade, and free retreat. What's not to like?
Gardevoir is what is not to like. Psychic lock could just give you a dose of your own poison by not even allowing you to poison them.
I don't get this.Absol not only would resists you, but could also poison your set.
I don't get this.
Hey! Its ok for me. I read enterely your post, i just post too quick... i dont want to insult your intelligence... boot of them are viables alternatives with advantages and weakness: Crobat Stage 2, 2sychic: attack snipe, risky attack, good Power. Venomoth: Stage 1,2:grass: "shield" attack, counter attack body.
Dont get upset!!! :thumb:
I suggest STINKING MONARCHY
4-2-4 Nidoking
2-1-2 Nidoqueen d
4-4 Weezing
This allows the disruption with King, Searching with Queen and gives Pride Attack some bonus, Stacked Poisoning with Weezing! 20+10+10 then 50/60+10+10 = decent damage. 110 isn't to bad and you can pull up stuff on the bench for disruption! Could be interesting!
NO weezing's pokebody does not stack, the spoiler you have is incorrect, i translate japanese cards and it specifically says the body can not stack
Grass energy + GL. Scoop?
It's very interesting, until you notice "Wait a minute, what's my bench supposed to look like?"
1 Nidoking Active, at least. Yes... Possibly another benched. So we'll say 2 slots given to Nidoking.
You likely want at least 1 Nidoqueen d on the bench, absolutely. I'd go as far as to say you'd want 2-2 Nidoqueen (2 delta, 2 MT), 'cause this makes Nidoking have amazingly low energy costs and thus as good at swarming as Venomoth (though it's not protected from special effects nor does it have resistance).
So we've already used 4 out of our 6 slots. That gives us... 2 Weezings usually? Yikes... What if our starter never comes off the field? I don't think you actually want to start with ANY of those pokemon, so...
20+10*3 to do 50 damage for 1 energy and lock powers is nice... But... I just don't think you're getting the same kind of easy speed as Venomoth, which could be problematic. Sure, you can use Pride Attack... To be flipping HOPEFULLY no more then 2 coins (or you won't have room for Weezings). And it's highly expensive in terms of energy. Who knows, maybe the type advantage over Gardevoir/Gallade as well as the ability to force switches could make up for it? It just still seems like Venomoth has an easier time against things...
On a random note... Though Donphan's safe from Venomoth's poisoning effects, Venomoth is immune to the switching effect, AND is resistant to Donphan. Plus, Venomoth can KO most of it's friends with little effort (no need for special energies, so Shuckle folds. Mr. Mime dies eventually, with just a bit of overkill energy attachment, etc)
And again: If you're building this deck right, you really SHOULDN'T need Skarmory. Venomoth will kill everything before Skarmory gets a chance to help. Nidoking should be pulling up targets who will be left with too little HP for Skarmory to make a difference. All Skarmory gets to do is be a 2 prize giving target for Magmortar and a terrible starter. Sounds... Fairly useless to me.