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NEW ISSUE.
SEE POST #81 for details. Please share your thoughts about this here
Disclaimer! Since you are here you probably have a vested interest in Pokegym Werewolf. I commend you for that and wish that we all move past these incidences quickly. Of note is that this thread is NOT to be used to discuss the set-up or play of players during its run. The WW XVIII thread should hold any post-game discussion of role power, set-up, faction perspective, thoughts, funnies, and the like.
During the course of WW XVIII Dimensional Clash there were some significant issues with the game, which you will likely remember. Due to these issues and the tempers that flared over the game there will need to be ramifications for these wrongdoings to preserve the integrity of the Pokegym WW community. Breaking of rules, anger, arguing, and actions against the Spirit of the Game of Pokegym WW are taken seriously, and through this thread the primary movers behind Gym WW wish to curtail further infringements.
Thus, a commission of Ikrit, Myself (Sandslash7) and Absoltrainer convened to discuss these issues and have issued our conclusions based on the vast evidence collected and analyzed in an exhaustive fashion.
The goal of this thread is not to publically denounce such players as bad people. The point of this thread is to enforce the guidelines that are already stated in the rules of Gym WW. Each player agrees to abide to these rules when they sign up to play a game of Gym WW. When such rules are broken, penalties must be handed out.
Furthermore, it is not wished that the punished players are in any way treated differently than any other player in terms of attitude or playstyle during any game going forward. This is only to hold players accountable for their actions in game and out of game, as well as to acknowledge wrongdoing while extending a way for transgressions to be forgiven and moved past.
As players we should all hold each other to the utmost standard of personal conduct, regardless of the arena upon which our actions unfold. All penalties are handed out at the discretion of the Gym Werewolf Leaders.
PIKAMASTER
For reactions to players that were unprofessional (Example One) and actions not befitting a moderator, we find that revocation of Pikamaster’s Mod Status is necessary* (to be elaborated on later). Henceforth Pikamaster must restart the Moderation Prerequisite form if further modding on the Gym is wished.
JPULICE
For posting game related information during the Night Cycle (Eample One) in violation of rules 2c and 4h, we find that a One-Game Ban in necessary. This One-Game Ban will served on Werewolf Balance Committee* (to be elaborated on later).
CABD
For revealing/speaking about game/role related information outside of the game (Example One) in violation of rule 4b, and for speaking in-game to numerous times after death to argue with living players or take part in discussions (Example Two) in violation of rule 5 and 2c, we find that a Two-Game Ban is necessary. This Two-Game Ban will be served as a One-Game ban followed by one game on Werewolf Balance Committee*.
DARTHPIKA
For speaking at night, pejoratively arguing with players about their actions/motivations (Example One) in violation of rule 2c, we find a One-Game Ban is necessary.
DIAZ
For speaking at night, pejoratively arguing with players about their actions/motivations (Example One) in violation of rule 2c, we find a One-Game Ban is necessary.
This concludes the penalties agreed upon by the commission. These players must be held accountable for their actions, and we wish that this time swiftly go by wherein they may return to the active player-base and continue to partake of the great game of Werewolf. Of note is that Werewolf is a game, and must remain as such. Pejorative argumentation, hurtful insults, public accusations without proper evidence outside of correct conduits, undermining game balance, and generalized angst have no place in Werewolf. Ikrit, Absol, and I hope that through this thread we may stamp out the seeds of division within our community.
As a community we should have no tolerance for arguments and incidents like those which occurred in WW XVIII.
Other business:
There is now a definitive method for becoming a moderator of a Gym WW game.
Moderation Pre-Requisites Form
1) Have played in at minimum TWO Gym Werewolf games.
2) Have served on a Gym WW Balance Committee, and satisfactorily balanced a game that is run on the Gym.
3) Have submitted the game in question to a Gym WW Balance Committee and it be certified balanced by the committee.
4) Have a dedicated Co-Mod who will take care of Narration duties if the original mod cannot, or who participated in game creation and works together with the “original mod.”
Or:
1) Be of Previous Mod Status (Defined: A Moderator who has successfully moderated a Werewolf game since WW X; Parisian Intrigue: Absoltrainer, Shellshock929, Cardzmaster2004, Ikrit, Lucario EX, Arcanine/Arbok Master, Sandslash7)
2) Have submitted the game in question to a Gym WW Balance Committee and it be certified balanced by the committee.
Players who are interested in hosting a game must fulfill EITHER the first or the second criterion. History and games from other websites are always a positive, but they cannot substitute Gym games for any criterion.
Werewolf Balance Committee
It is obvious that there is a desperate need for third-party validation and verification for games played on the Gym. Many games have been horribly unbalanced either for or against certain factions with unjust and unfair playing fields being the result. This was touched briefly in the Werewolf Metagame Analysis Thread, but the primary thrust of that thread was player behavior, and game balance must now be dealt with.
As such, with games like XV; Pokémon Wars!, and XVIII; Dimensional Clash cannot be allowed to remain the standard of balance for Gym Werewolf. Each game was broken and tilted the odds of factional victory towards one or more factions completely unfairly.
It is necessary for some kind of third party oversight in WW games, so it is resolved to create a WW Balance Committee with the job of double-checking the balance already present in the proposed game and giving feedback about positive or negative attributes.
The Balance Committee will be responsible to give the final say as to game-play readiness for each set-up. The Committee will be composed of any number of willing players. Each game will have two members from the Committee go over all roles of the game, rules, hidden rules, priority, and setup to determine its balance. Once a go-ahead is given, the requesting mod will be allowed next in line to narrate a WW game.
The Balance Committee will be made up of players who are adept enough to handle over-all game balance. Thus, a minimum of 2 games of WW played is a prerequisite for volunteering to be in the Balance Committee. Each volunteer must also read the Werewolf Metagame Analysis Thread for adequate background on game balance and game theory. Each volunteer must be familiar with topics mentioned here regarding game theory Mafia Scum’s Modding Guide: 2010 edition.
To volunteer to be on the WW Balance committee, please submit a short application PM to myself and I’ll add you to the list (updated in the New WW Compendium thread) if you have the correct credentials and are approved.
Any questions and or recommendations will be discussed. Thank you for your time.
SEE POST #81 for details. Please share your thoughts about this here
Disclaimer! Since you are here you probably have a vested interest in Pokegym Werewolf. I commend you for that and wish that we all move past these incidences quickly. Of note is that this thread is NOT to be used to discuss the set-up or play of players during its run. The WW XVIII thread should hold any post-game discussion of role power, set-up, faction perspective, thoughts, funnies, and the like.
During the course of WW XVIII Dimensional Clash there were some significant issues with the game, which you will likely remember. Due to these issues and the tempers that flared over the game there will need to be ramifications for these wrongdoings to preserve the integrity of the Pokegym WW community. Breaking of rules, anger, arguing, and actions against the Spirit of the Game of Pokegym WW are taken seriously, and through this thread the primary movers behind Gym WW wish to curtail further infringements.
Thus, a commission of Ikrit, Myself (Sandslash7) and Absoltrainer convened to discuss these issues and have issued our conclusions based on the vast evidence collected and analyzed in an exhaustive fashion.
The goal of this thread is not to publically denounce such players as bad people. The point of this thread is to enforce the guidelines that are already stated in the rules of Gym WW. Each player agrees to abide to these rules when they sign up to play a game of Gym WW. When such rules are broken, penalties must be handed out.
Furthermore, it is not wished that the punished players are in any way treated differently than any other player in terms of attitude or playstyle during any game going forward. This is only to hold players accountable for their actions in game and out of game, as well as to acknowledge wrongdoing while extending a way for transgressions to be forgiven and moved past.
As players we should all hold each other to the utmost standard of personal conduct, regardless of the arena upon which our actions unfold. All penalties are handed out at the discretion of the Gym Werewolf Leaders.
PIKAMASTER
For reactions to players that were unprofessional (Example One) and actions not befitting a moderator, we find that revocation of Pikamaster’s Mod Status is necessary* (to be elaborated on later). Henceforth Pikamaster must restart the Moderation Prerequisite form if further modding on the Gym is wished.
JPULICE
For posting game related information during the Night Cycle (Eample One) in violation of rules 2c and 4h, we find that a One-Game Ban in necessary. This One-Game Ban will served on Werewolf Balance Committee* (to be elaborated on later).
CABD
For revealing/speaking about game/role related information outside of the game (Example One) in violation of rule 4b, and for speaking in-game to numerous times after death to argue with living players or take part in discussions (Example Two) in violation of rule 5 and 2c, we find that a Two-Game Ban is necessary. This Two-Game Ban will be served as a One-Game ban followed by one game on Werewolf Balance Committee*.
DARTHPIKA
For speaking at night, pejoratively arguing with players about their actions/motivations (Example One) in violation of rule 2c, we find a One-Game Ban is necessary.
DIAZ
For speaking at night, pejoratively arguing with players about their actions/motivations (Example One) in violation of rule 2c, we find a One-Game Ban is necessary.
This concludes the penalties agreed upon by the commission. These players must be held accountable for their actions, and we wish that this time swiftly go by wherein they may return to the active player-base and continue to partake of the great game of Werewolf. Of note is that Werewolf is a game, and must remain as such. Pejorative argumentation, hurtful insults, public accusations without proper evidence outside of correct conduits, undermining game balance, and generalized angst have no place in Werewolf. Ikrit, Absol, and I hope that through this thread we may stamp out the seeds of division within our community.
As a community we should have no tolerance for arguments and incidents like those which occurred in WW XVIII.
Other business:
There is now a definitive method for becoming a moderator of a Gym WW game.
Moderation Pre-Requisites Form
1) Have played in at minimum TWO Gym Werewolf games.
2) Have served on a Gym WW Balance Committee, and satisfactorily balanced a game that is run on the Gym.
3) Have submitted the game in question to a Gym WW Balance Committee and it be certified balanced by the committee.
4) Have a dedicated Co-Mod who will take care of Narration duties if the original mod cannot, or who participated in game creation and works together with the “original mod.”
Or:
1) Be of Previous Mod Status (Defined: A Moderator who has successfully moderated a Werewolf game since WW X; Parisian Intrigue: Absoltrainer, Shellshock929, Cardzmaster2004, Ikrit, Lucario EX, Arcanine/Arbok Master, Sandslash7)
2) Have submitted the game in question to a Gym WW Balance Committee and it be certified balanced by the committee.
Players who are interested in hosting a game must fulfill EITHER the first or the second criterion. History and games from other websites are always a positive, but they cannot substitute Gym games for any criterion.
Werewolf Balance Committee
It is obvious that there is a desperate need for third-party validation and verification for games played on the Gym. Many games have been horribly unbalanced either for or against certain factions with unjust and unfair playing fields being the result. This was touched briefly in the Werewolf Metagame Analysis Thread, but the primary thrust of that thread was player behavior, and game balance must now be dealt with.
As such, with games like XV; Pokémon Wars!, and XVIII; Dimensional Clash cannot be allowed to remain the standard of balance for Gym Werewolf. Each game was broken and tilted the odds of factional victory towards one or more factions completely unfairly.
It is necessary for some kind of third party oversight in WW games, so it is resolved to create a WW Balance Committee with the job of double-checking the balance already present in the proposed game and giving feedback about positive or negative attributes.
The Balance Committee will be responsible to give the final say as to game-play readiness for each set-up. The Committee will be composed of any number of willing players. Each game will have two members from the Committee go over all roles of the game, rules, hidden rules, priority, and setup to determine its balance. Once a go-ahead is given, the requesting mod will be allowed next in line to narrate a WW game.
The Balance Committee will be made up of players who are adept enough to handle over-all game balance. Thus, a minimum of 2 games of WW played is a prerequisite for volunteering to be in the Balance Committee. Each volunteer must also read the Werewolf Metagame Analysis Thread for adequate background on game balance and game theory. Each volunteer must be familiar with topics mentioned here regarding game theory Mafia Scum’s Modding Guide: 2010 edition.
To volunteer to be on the WW Balance committee, please submit a short application PM to myself and I’ll add you to the list (updated in the New WW Compendium thread) if you have the correct credentials and are approved.
Any questions and or recommendations will be discussed. Thank you for your time.
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