WEREWOLF XII: Cyrus's Revenge!! ENDGAME Planning for next WW game inside
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FlamingJapaneseMan
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Well, glad to see there's one person who doesn't want to lynch me.
I really think it's not worth it to kill someone this early, and the wolves will get a kill regardless if we vote someone off.
I really think it's not worth it to kill someone this early, and the wolves will get a kill regardless if we vote someone off.
PokeChampofPokeBeach
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FlamingJapaneseMan has acted like a n00b these past few days (real days). But then again, the plausible priest almost got himself killed, and smacktack15 random voted and got away with it. What I'm trying to say is, why get rid of someone for the same reason that Diaz and smacktack15 would have been accused of? This is unfair towards FJM, who in my opinion has not played any worse than smacktack15, yet is receiving heavy tension nonetheless.
Congrats, town. While you ignorantly tried to lynch FJM, you forgot that he might have an important role, too. Why doesn't he come out and say it? Because Diaz has already posted that he was the priest, and therefore, claiming something similar would be suicidal for FJM. It is not really fair for him, as he has no defense in this rather one-sided trial. Remember, FJM: sometimes the town is even less merciless than the Werewolves.
But who started the massacre ala bandwagon? DarthPika did. It was he who tried to take the attention away from Diaz (which he has been attempting rather heavily if you weren't idiotic enough not to notice). The fact is, DarthPika has done nothing in aiding the town. All his efforts were put into protecting Diaz. Thus, DarthPika is undoubtedly a mason or even a Werewolf, trying to protect his own kin. One or two have noticed it, but I'm surprised the town for the majority did not. DarthPika is trying to take the town into his favor early, and he is using his reputation as a skilled player to do so.
I am therefore considering a vote for him, but I made a promise not to cast a vote until Day 7, and I will keep it. If there is a greater threat than DP, than by all means I will vote for it instead of him.
Also, will the town use their brain for once? You're letting all of the good players sway you into their dominion, and a few of them may well be Werewolves. Don't bandwagon with the "popular" guy. Think for yourself or I can guarantee the town won't win this game.
Congrats, town. While you ignorantly tried to lynch FJM, you forgot that he might have an important role, too. Why doesn't he come out and say it? Because Diaz has already posted that he was the priest, and therefore, claiming something similar would be suicidal for FJM. It is not really fair for him, as he has no defense in this rather one-sided trial. Remember, FJM: sometimes the town is even less merciless than the Werewolves.
But who started the massacre ala bandwagon? DarthPika did. It was he who tried to take the attention away from Diaz (which he has been attempting rather heavily if you weren't idiotic enough not to notice). The fact is, DarthPika has done nothing in aiding the town. All his efforts were put into protecting Diaz. Thus, DarthPika is undoubtedly a mason or even a Werewolf, trying to protect his own kin. One or two have noticed it, but I'm surprised the town for the majority did not. DarthPika is trying to take the town into his favor early, and he is using his reputation as a skilled player to do so.
I am therefore considering a vote for him, but I made a promise not to cast a vote until Day 7, and I will keep it. If there is a greater threat than DP, than by all means I will vote for it instead of him.
Also, will the town use their brain for once? You're letting all of the good players sway you into their dominion, and a few of them may well be Werewolves. Don't bandwagon with the "popular" guy. Think for yourself or I can guarantee the town won't win this game.
DarthPika
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I'm not trying to protect Diaz, I simply have a plan of action that involves letting the wolves decide what to do with him.
Why am I voting for FJM over Diaz? Diaz has at least admitted he was way to aggressive and that he used bad logic. He also has said WHY his role is valuable to the town.
On the other hand, FJM has said NOTHING. When I asked him if he could give reasons of why he should stay over Diaz, he gave none at all. He even voted for him self. Smactack is dangerous IMO as well, but at least he's tried to defend him self. FJM, Smactack AND Diaz are all potential threats IMO, and ones we should keep a close eye on for the next few days. I'm just trying to get rid of them in the most logical order possible.
I am not a mason, and I am not a wolf. I'm not trying to help Diaz. I'm simply trying to keep us from potentially losing our Priest on the very first day, as well as giving the wolves something to think about for thier kill. (who do they attack? will Diaz be protected, or will someone else be?)
For the record, this is something to strongly think about... IF Diaz get's lynched/killed, and it turns out he's the priest, IMO it wouldn't be too hard to find a few wolves.
Why am I voting for FJM over Diaz? Diaz has at least admitted he was way to aggressive and that he used bad logic. He also has said WHY his role is valuable to the town.
On the other hand, FJM has said NOTHING. When I asked him if he could give reasons of why he should stay over Diaz, he gave none at all. He even voted for him self. Smactack is dangerous IMO as well, but at least he's tried to defend him self. FJM, Smactack AND Diaz are all potential threats IMO, and ones we should keep a close eye on for the next few days. I'm just trying to get rid of them in the most logical order possible.
I am not a mason, and I am not a wolf. I'm not trying to help Diaz. I'm simply trying to keep us from potentially losing our Priest on the very first day, as well as giving the wolves something to think about for thier kill. (who do they attack? will Diaz be protected, or will someone else be?)
For the record, this is something to strongly think about... IF Diaz get's lynched/killed, and it turns out he's the priest, IMO it wouldn't be too hard to find a few wolves.
Ikrit
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@Cardz:
I would respect you a great deal more if you did not premise your attempt at logic by calling someone so idiotic that they needed consoling. I had never thought of the no vote affecting it in that way, and am not fully convinced yet, however the danger is too high mess around with it. Besides that, you and I can't be wasting our time on each other if the town is to win this. I would still love to see that elegant post btw.
@Diaz:
You hinted that you were able to protect yourself. While this is explicitly stated to be impossible in the rules, I don't doubt that it is in fact possible, as it said the same thing in the rules the entire last game, while I was protecting myself. Right now, the optimal thing to to is to say that you will either protect yourself or one other person. In that way, the wolves would be stupid to risk a fifty-percent chance of being blocked, and if they play correctly, you will have protected your self and the one other person that you said you would. I would love if that person was me
Finally,
As a vote for No One may possibly be greatly detrimental in the later game, I am voting for the most suspicious person of the day, FJM. He has been acting extremely suspicious through random voting, voting for himself, etc.
Unvote: No One
Vote: Undecided
I would respect you a great deal more if you did not premise your attempt at logic by calling someone so idiotic that they needed consoling. I had never thought of the no vote affecting it in that way, and am not fully convinced yet, however the danger is too high mess around with it. Besides that, you and I can't be wasting our time on each other if the town is to win this. I would still love to see that elegant post btw.
@Diaz:
You hinted that you were able to protect yourself. While this is explicitly stated to be impossible in the rules, I don't doubt that it is in fact possible, as it said the same thing in the rules the entire last game, while I was protecting myself. Right now, the optimal thing to to is to say that you will either protect yourself or one other person. In that way, the wolves would be stupid to risk a fifty-percent chance of being blocked, and if they play correctly, you will have protected your self and the one other person that you said you would. I would love if that person was me
Finally,
As a vote for No One may possibly be greatly detrimental in the later game, I am voting for the most suspicious person of the day, FJM. He has been acting extremely suspicious through random voting, voting for himself, etc.
Unvote: No One
Vote: Undecided
gashmoigidy
New Member
If we don't kill anyone,
the wolves get a free night,
this is only bad for everyone,
how will the townies fight?
PokeChampofPokeBeach
New Member
Curious how you voted undecided when you clearly said FJM.
@ DarthPika:
That is true. He has said nothing, and has not defended himself, unlike Diaz. Looking at what you are saying, I can now see that it may actually be in your advantage to lynch FJM. I am sorry of accusing you of being a mason with Diaz, as I see now that is untrue. Although it is true you have spent a lot of your effort trying to get someone else voted off. So I don't know. But for now, I think it may be best for me to vote. I might not be here in the coming days I just learned, so my vote needs to be made now:
Unvote: Undecided
Vote: FlamingJapaneseMan
Reason: for being a dangerous player.
@ DarthPika:
That is true. He has said nothing, and has not defended himself, unlike Diaz. Looking at what you are saying, I can now see that it may actually be in your advantage to lynch FJM. I am sorry of accusing you of being a mason with Diaz, as I see now that is untrue. Although it is true you have spent a lot of your effort trying to get someone else voted off. So I don't know. But for now, I think it may be best for me to vote. I might not be here in the coming days I just learned, so my vote needs to be made now:
Unvote: Undecided
Vote: FlamingJapaneseMan
Reason: for being a dangerous player.
FlamingJapaneseMan
New Member
What information do I have, defending myself is like trying to climb out of a 100 foot hole, redundant, and whatever I say gets me at least 2 votes.
PokeChampofPokeBeach
New Member
Lol, your accidents are contagious, Ikrit.
Vote: FlamingJapaneseMan
Vote: FlamingJapaneseMan
DarthPika
New Member
Unless your a wolf, a role reveal usually is what you do in this position. That being said, I'm not so sure it would do you much good as of now.
Wow, I am gone for a day and 4 pages of post has appeared.
As a former wolf, I always enjoy the presence of overzealous bandwagoners such as FJM and smacktack15 because they create so much destruction and chaos, usually bad for the townspeople. The bandwagoners will jump on flimsiest evidence against anyone. In some ways, they can be manipulated. In my discussion of fellow werewolves member, I will always argues for keeping them around just for a while until they improved.
I have not read anything past post #400. I will weigh in with my opinion on my next posts after doing some heavy catching up reading.
As a former wolf, I always enjoy the presence of overzealous bandwagoners such as FJM and smacktack15 because they create so much destruction and chaos, usually bad for the townspeople. The bandwagoners will jump on flimsiest evidence against anyone. In some ways, they can be manipulated. In my discussion of fellow werewolves member, I will always argues for keeping them around just for a while until they improved.
I have not read anything past post #400. I will weigh in with my opinion on my next posts after doing some heavy catching up reading.
Time for Pain
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Unvote: No one
Vote:FJM
reason: majority + bad logic
Vote:FJM
reason: majority + bad logic
Sandslash7
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FJM: A day or so ago you were in the same position Diaz was in, with over ten votes each. Diaz however was able to get himself out of that "100 foot hole" and there was no reason you shouldn't have been able to. However, the way you've played before and after that made it nigh impossible. I'm all for giving someone the benefit of the doubt when they are at least using logic, but changing your vote so many times within the first day just reeks of flip-flopping, a characteristic not appreciated in this game. I also agree with DarthPika about picking FJM to be lynched.
VOTE: FJM
VOTE: FJM
Lucario EX
Moderator<br>Fanfic Contest Host
VOTE: FJM
Anyone who doesn't think it's worth the trouble to at least attempt to defend himself isn't worth keeping around.
Anyone who doesn't think it's worth the trouble to at least attempt to defend himself isn't worth keeping around.
Lucario EX
Moderator<br>Fanfic Contest Host
Sorry forgot to unvote Diaz.
Redoing:
VOTE: FJM
UNVOTE: Diaz
Redoing:
VOTE: FJM
UNVOTE: Diaz