Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

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Swordfish1989

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Been out of the loop for about a month.. wondering what's considered good or will be good with the release of Plasma? I know of Landorus variants, Tornadus, and Keldeo/Blastoise but that's about it. I've heard big hype over Lugia and the Trainer that posions Pokemon, but which decks are expected to be big after next week? Are there any currently big decks that are going to lose popularity?

Not looking for decklists, just what the general consensus is :)
 
Keep an eye out for Cobalion/Klingklang and I'm sure Magnezone will be used with something.
 
Darkrai/Lazer*
Blastoise/Keldeo/Kyurem
Landorus/Tornauds/Lazer*

Possibly
Rayeels
Klinklang/Cobalion

*Hypnotoxic Lazer
 
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What's Lazer? The beam that poisons pokemon?

And thanks! Had no idea about Klinklang and Cobalion

Hypnotoxic Laser: The defending Pokemon is now poisoned. Flip a coin, if heads the defending Pokemon is now asleep. This card is really good with Virbank City Gym. Sableye and Dowsing Machine hurts bad.
 
Laser is very situational with a few decks. Its ability is just overwhleming, it just doesn't have, in my mind, a partner. Bring back old Ariados!!!
 
Laser is very situational with a few decks. Its ability is just overwhleming, it just doesn't have, in my mind, a partner. Bring back old Ariados!!!

A little confused; what do you mean Hypnotoxic Laser is "very situational" with a few decks?" That in a few decks it isn't as good?

It is likely to become at least a near staple for most decks. It already has a magnificent partner in Virbank City Gym, and it is the only real hope for Ninetales.
 
Im just not sold on it is all I'm saying. I do think it gives some cards a better chance at victory. But in terms of a lot of competitive decks that are out right now, I don't think it is worth the space because it is a "situational" card, not a consistency card. I think one of the lasers in any deck could be worth it, but to say it would be worth 3-4 in my mind is a little outlandish.

Again, this is just my opinion. I have definitely been wrong before.

I will agree about the ninetails though. That deck could see some competitive play and may do fairly well
 
I think that decks like Landorus/Tornadus/Mewtwo will be very very good. Landorus is good against Darkrai which becomes absurdly good with the release of HTL and it is also good against Hammer variants which I expect to see more of due to the hype that Lugia is getting. Tornadus is a good attacker in the Blastoise matchup, able to pick off Squirtle early and is good against opposing Landrous. It also gains early game strength because a lot of decks will be running Virbank to power up its first attack. Mewtwo is Mewtwo and is also very good in the Keldeo matchup.

This deck also has the option to run the Ether/PokeDex engine and it also hits incredibly fast.

I think a big basic deck like this has a good chance of being the BDIF.
 
I think one of the lasers in any deck could be worth it, but to say it would be worth 3-4 in my mind is a little outlandish.

Again, this is just my opinion. I have definitely been wrong before.

I will agree about the ninetails though. That deck could see some competitive play and may do fairly well

A quick bit of explanation to avoid me sounding as rude or weird as I fear: I began quoting you where I did for emphasis, especially as this thread was started by someone who missed a month of serious play and news... and this isn't just a back and forth between the two of us, but really two individuals that are part of a larger group discussion.

I don't think every deck needs to max out Hypnotoxic Laser and/or Virbank City Gym, and I have been trying to remind many to "do the math" and realize that it isn't something you use every turn. At the same time, I believe it will be widely played as at least a TecH card, and running two of it and two Virbank City Gym may be a viable model. That isn't to say maxing it out won't work for some decks (possibly most), but I think there is some flexibility. If it is as popular as anticipated, then running one copy or even no copies of Virbank City Gym may be acceptable, because your opponent will often supply it for you.

A single Hypnotoxic Laser (outside of Weakness) yields the same damage bonus as a PlusPower, plus a 50% chance of inflicting Sleep, which means by the time your opponent's turn starts there is I believe a 25% chance of the opponent's Active Pokémon being Asleep. Lousy as an attack, but pretty nice for an Item. If Virbank City Gym is used, the two cards result in the same net damage counter increase as three copies of PlusPower (again barring Weakness). In either case, they turn near KOs into KOs, saving an attack... when people do the math correctly.
 
I misunderstood you, I believe. I do feel it is an upgraded plus power for sure. I just felt and currently think it is just too overhyped. In all honesty, I'm no metagame expert by obvious reasons, but I feel that a lot of competitive and successful decklists didn't utilize Plus Power, so why should an upgraded plus power make THAT much of a difference.

Yes, I agree this shouldn't be a back and forth between us, feel free to pm me if you'd like. It is a great discussion, truly and would love to continue it via PM.

On topic-
I do believe the hype of Lugia, currently testing it a bit with my list I'm using it with.
4 Kyurem
3 Lugia EX
3 Squirtle
3 Blastoise
2 Keldeo EX
...definitely EARLY testing, but it HAS worked, just not efficiently. The potential for a T-5 victory of 6 prizes is just amazing to me.
 
Hypnotoxic Laser and Virbank City Gym are incredible in Darkrai/Bouffalant. Buff hits an Ex for 120 plus the 30 for poison and then Darkrai Ex can snipe it next turn if it goes back to the bench.
 
Mostly because it's such a terrible card in the Keldeo matchup.
How? 30 Night Spear Snipe+Night Spear+HTL+Dark Claw=Dead Keldeo. Also, HTL+Dark Claw+Night Spear=Dead Blastoise. Finally, if they only have one Keldeo out mid game, they won't be able to get out of it.
 
How? 30 Night Spear Snipe+Night Spear+HTL+Dark Claw=Dead Keldeo. Also, HTL+Dark Claw+Night Spear=Dead Blastoise. Finally, if they only have one Keldeo out mid game, they won't be able to get out of it.

I think you misunderstood Kayle's comment. When asked why Landorus EX usage went down, Kayle was stating it was due to Landorus EX having a poor match-up, as opposed to the suggestion of the person asking (which was about Darkrai EX).
 
I think you misunderstood Kayle's comment. When asked why Landorus EX usage went down, Kayle was stating it was due to Landorus EX having a poor match-up, as opposed to the suggestion of the person asking (which was about Darkrai EX).
Oh, ok. I thought he was talking about HTL. My bad.
 
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