Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

What impact will Victini have on the upcoming format?

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For those of you not aware of Victini's ability. It gives the player the option to replay an attack if it involves flipping coins, although the abilty does not stack. What worries me is could be used to consistently maintain an annoying Gliscor style lock with Tangrowth while being under trainer lock. Vileplume will be a lot more playable since you can maintain a T1 trainer lock using Teddiursa. However the card that benefits the most from Victini's abilty has to be the previously mocked Shiny Kyogre. Using raindance you can reliably hit all your opponents pokémon for 40 damage every turn and use Darkrai&Cresselia Legend to move damage counters on your opponents field to get multiple KOs.
 
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Some good ideas so far.. I never even knew that Teddirusa existed... Victini will definitely be the corner stone is some very rogue decks.
 
Victini is not broken at all in any way so any impact it'll make will be very small. It is a nice idea to be able to re-flip coins but there are only a few Pokemon that can really use it. I do hope it makes my Leafeon deck better by allowing me to reflip on Houndoom Prime. Still, it's 50 50 ether way. You might flip tails again but the option to do it again is nice, plus the ability doesnot stack so you're only given 1 more chance at luck.
 
^ You missed the part where Victiny stated only ATTACKS are affected?
I recon its too easy a prize to be played like this. Especially if Catcher comes out, having a poke with such low HP score on your bench might be a liabilty, and there aren't any attacks truly broken enough to work with it.
 
Could be nice with sharpedo, just under a 50% chance of discarding your whole opponents hand which is nice.

Cleffa's a liability to that though, although you can keep on reusing it against cleffa as the effects of the attack still count against a sleeping cleffa.
 
Victini seems like a great card for fun. The numbers can get wonky, but it would make flippy attacks more viable. I cannot say that anything so random would be good in tournaments, as the 25% chance of failure (if you flip 1 coin) can get really bothersome. I can see it being cool with fury-swipes type of attacks (such as Sneasel). The big question is when to keep X heads and when to reflip. I would enjoy that simple choice. I would really find it cool if Victini could stack with its own ability. I can't wait to see some fun builds of this deck, but it really probably won't be very good for tournament as you're basically hoping for the best (I dislike probabilistic attacks). Anything that isn't consistent damage (I know my payoff damage before I attack with it) probably isn't very good for tournaments, but it can be great for league. I'll pick up one of these guys for sure... cards like this get my creativity very excited :D
 
Maybe Klinklang will finally see some use? His attack is actually pretty good for a metal and two colorless when paired with Victini.
 
I am surprised that no one has said Ampharos Prime. That was the first thing that came to my mind. It definitely makes the card more viable. However if catcher is released then this card's play will be limited.
 
JokerBoi said:
I am surprised that no one has said Ampharos Prime. That was the first thing that came to my mind. It definitely makes the card more viable. However if catcher is released then this card's play will be limited.
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Not if, when and it will probably be in the set before this one.
 
i said in another thread but BLW Klinklang and UD Metagross i think get some of the best use of victini as they are the strongest flip x to do y dam attacks i could find
 
Scipio said:
^ You missed the part where Victiny stated only ATTACKS are affected?
I recon its too easy a prize to be played like this. Especially if Catcher comes out, having a poke with such low HP score on your bench might be a liabilty, and there aren't any attacks truly broken enough to work with it.
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Right, I did miss that.
 
hmm, interesting card. I see it could come in use in some decks, very, very few in fact. And to get the record straight on probability: you have a 50/50 chance on each coin flip BUT Theoretically if you flip once (50/50) and hit tails then you flip again you actually should have a 50% chance of hitting a heads out of 75% since you already have flipped once getting rid of 1/4 of the chance of getting tails since you have already hit it... I am pretty sure I am right, II am even more sure if it was out of 4 flips, but it is late at night and I ain't thinkin right probably right now.
 
If you hit double tails first, and use that ability, you have the same chance of getting double tails again. Flips are not related to each other. Every coin has a 50/50 chance of getting a tail and a head, but if you hit one heads, you still have 50/50 chance of gettign another heads.
 
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Yes thats true but the fact you have 2 chances hit double heads means you have a 50/50 chance instead of 25/75 chance. Using Sharpedo's single energy attack combined with Slowking :ppowr: will put an extremely nastly lock on the opponent.
 
It's not a 50/50 chance.

Pyjamas explains the maths here . . .

Pajamas said:
Now, for the real answer. You have a 1/4 chance of hitting double heads on your first try. Thus, you have a 3/4 chance of having to use Victory Star and try again. 1/4 of the time when you try again you'll hit double heads, so the overall odds are 1/4 + (3/4 * 1/4) = 7/16, or 43.75%.
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I would totally play that Sharpedo deck if Magneboar weren't so popular. "Oh, you discard my hand? I'll just draw 6 more cards thank you." What we need is something that can lock that power...
 
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