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HELLO! I dunno if anyone knows me, I have always circulated with this nameon other boards before but I dont think I ever visited pokegym all that often if any. This is my return to the pokemon game and my article of how I viewed yugioh and pokemon:



This is how it all went down starting from 1999.
I put this on another forum also so I apoligize if anything in this is targeted at another site or something.

Back around 2002 after alot of the Pokemon Leagues shut down, I drifted into a game I dont think I ever liked from the beginning which was yugioh. Toys R Us Seem to be having problems with Wizards and all and never reopened the traditional Pokemon League and whatnot, after that point it was Books A Million which still held it but at the time yugioh was making its move into taking everything over and later it became more of a yugioh league. Well yugioh seemed to be a fun game for a while up to the point now in the last 6-10 months now I think the game is filled with people I dont wanna be around no more, People who brag saying how good they are, the cheating in the game is just off the scale, and really games are suppose to be fun, but yugioh I dont think it is fun no more. Upperdeck the ones who distribute and run the game doesnt offer nothing for its tournaments, its stores dishing out money out of there pockets to please the yugioh people, and these days when I go to a yugioh tournament its no fun involved, its all who can beat who in 2 turns and say they are the best and all that bull, the game is no fun and going to tournaments is useless to do, the game might be fun outside of tournaments and competitive play but thats it, I am fed up with the game and plus I think Upperdeck reps and stuff is doing a little brown nosing in there nationals and world tournaments boosting up certain people in them for reasons as far as spending money and all, thats how it is I am pretty sure when I have compared yugioh tournaments to pokemon tournaments and all, the one thing I have seen is the truly skilled Pokemon player in a tourney is gonna win and at the same time have fun as well as anyone else who played, the yugioh tournament 90% of the people aint gonna have fun and most times your dealing with cheats, braggers who think they are great, and more of the outside intereferece with UDE reps and stuff putting these people on top for there own purposes, after about 2 years of this I decided enough is enough already.


Luckily a Pokemon League has opened up locally, something I been waiting for FOR A LONG TIME now since the demise of it and in hopes Nintendo would bring this game back to the Top where it should be, so this is my return to the game, and oddly enough about all I have done is faded away from it, I havent even gotten rid of any of the Pokemon cards I have, so I have those old American and Japanese promos back from the 1999 sets and stuff, the one thing I have done is drifted away alot from the TCG play, after Expedition set came and those 4 E-Sets I kinda was out of it so bascially I dunno whats out past those sets, I do know that Ruby and Sapphire sets and up is the only sets legal in organized play now, I have bought a pack here and there during the yugioh run, so I really dunno what deck type is the flavor to go with, I have noticed Grass Type seem to be very strong and I may try and go toward that direction, whatever the case I am gonna have a better time with Pokemon then what I have with yugioh.

I mean I played and won many many yugioh tournaments, but I mean it dont mean much really rather then that small prize you get, about the time IOC and prolly before that came out, might as well say when LOD came out with yata, yugioh been all about who can beat who first, heck the game revolves around nothing but luck and the lowest IQ person in the game could win worlds because of his godly hands he kept getting or something, its all I mentioned above, its why I going back to Pokemon and the fact a league has opened up nearby, quite frankly everything I said about yugioh is true, but I hardly think it ever applies to Pokemon because Nintendo has other products the make money off of, they dont need to rig that game like Konami and UDE does with theres.


Result: I am glad to return to the game for the first time in about 2 1/2 years coming this Friday at a Pokemon League. Now oNly problem is..... I have no deck lol
 
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where exactly are you at? and new people are always good...i'd reccomend starting out by buying a ex: battle stadium
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Well I am from Louisiana.

I aint exactly new to the game, I mean I got the really old pokemon deck I used that had Jungle Jolteon, LT Surge Electrabuzz and all that in it, so I still know how to play the game, but I guess I would be new in this new age since I never played a game since Nintendo took over.

Yeah say they recommend the EX: Battle Stadium, if thats the one with the pidgeot in it, anyway I feel much more relieved to return to this game.
 
I would go for the battle stadium and also get the Fire red theme deck to grab a pidgeot as not many people have any to trade. Get your hands on at least 4 rare candy and don't let go, DO NOT TRADE the candy because they are really hard to trade for. You said grass looked strong but unfortunatly grass is the weakest type right now because one of the strongest decks right now is still the fire blaze deck. I wish grass was playable but right now I just can't see how. Dark Dragonite is the deck I think is best for people to start with because the main card (dragonite) is easy to find and electrode is not all that rare and you only need two. I'm sure you will have no trouble finding a dark dragonite deck in the deck forums here. The fastest deck at the moment is Zapdos ex. It is up and doing 70 damage by turn 2 90% of the time so watch out for that, That is also the most expensive deck to try and build (well, that or blaze but blaze is on its way out) With boost energy coming back (boost energy probivdes 3 colorless energy for 1 turn then gets discarded) a lot of new decks will be tried and some old favorites will make a comeback. One major thing to watch out for is stay away from big, expensive, flashy cards like charizard ex. I know it does 200 damage and has 160 HP but its still not good at all in the current metagame. Right now the trick is speed. One or two turns will make the diffrence at the end of the game and getting the first hit in is important. 4 dunsparce are common in most decks played today as is pidgeot (Thats why you get the Fire red deck). With the next set coming out in a few weeks I would hold off and see what happens to the metagame after the next set, then work on putting a deck together. What is good right now may all change with the next sets release. So to some it up
Dunsparce and Pidgeot good
Rare candy is Rare and very good
no flashy charizards
Hope we get the Gold/Silver pokemon back
Still no playable alakazam
Deck diversity at the moment is huge
Pokemon pwns yugioh
yay for nintendo for huge prize support
go to all the tourneys you can
go to worlds just cuz its cool
thats about all!
 
Yeah I know about the speed thing, I dont guess the old Pokemon Breeder trainer card was ever reprinted for the modified format was it? I know cards like Pokeball will be able to speed a deck up faster espcially if your using evolution pokemon in it, I know about the rare candies also I just dont recall what they do LOL, but I will pick up on those decks, and buy cards I guess out of the Pokemon Leaf Green and Fire Red set and modifiy whatever deck I do buy.
 
Yea I agree with a lot of what you have to say about yugioh and pokemon. I just got back into the pokemon tourney seen this year after a 2 yr hiatus. But was still collecting them though. I think pokemon players are more friendly and honest. Ironically when I went to my first CC's earlier this yr. I tried to trade yugioh for pokemon and that didn't work out to well. On top of that I left the binder behind and was able to get it back amazingly. Unlike when I was at a yugioh tour where I had cards stolen.

But to what I wanted to say. Actually playing yugioh and then going back to pokemon is making me a better pokemon player. I used to have this said misconceived idea that pokemon was a "kiddie" game with not a lot strategy to it. But I know I was wrong. IN playing yugioh I gained experience in thinking about ratios, probabilties and metagames. Coming back realize that pokemon is in many many ways more complicated than yugioh. There is a much larger variety of different decks in pokemon than yugioh. Even with the yugioh banned list implemented to stop broken decks new cookie cutter broken decks rise. Take away Emperor and yata people use warrior/blacklustersoldier. I run a beatdown/control variant here and can get around those cookie decks.

BTW if you want a pidgeot buy a fire red preconstructed deck the one with a charmeleon on it. Yea the battle stadium is a great way to get back into things. Thats how i got back and now I run a Blaze~n~burn deck.

Good luck on your return back to pokemon. :thumb:
 
Rare candy is the new pokemon breeder, lets you play a stage 2 on a basic pokemon on turn one. pokeball is bad, use celios network if you need somthing to find non-ex pokemon, never use pokeball. If you want scans of all the cards go Herel They have good scans of all the cards that you can read (prices arn't bad either) but thats not the point. The best trainers right now are Stevens advice, TV reporter, Bills matinence, Rare candy, ATM rock, VS seeker, Mr. brineys compassion, copycat, Prof. Oaks Research, Celios network, Rockets admin. wallys training, and of course stadiums. If your playing a deck with dark pokemon then rockets pokeball and rockets mission are a must.
 
coolmanderzx said:
Yea I agree with a lot of what you have to say about yugioh and pokemon. I just got back into the pokemon tourney seen this year after a 2 yr hiatus. But was still collecting them though. I think pokemon players are more friendly and honest. Ironically when I went to my first CC's earlier this yr. I tried to trade yugioh for pokemon and that didn't work out to well. On top of that I left the binder behind and was able to get it back amazingly. Unlike when I was at a yugioh tour where I had cards stolen.

But to what I wanted to say. Actually playing yugioh and then going back to pokemon is making me a better pokemon player. I used to have this said misconceived idea that pokemon was a "kiddie" game with not a lot strategy to it. But I know I was wrong. IN playing yugioh I gained experience in thinking about ratios, probabilties and metagames. Coming back realize that pokemon is in many many ways more complicated than yugioh. There is a much larger variety of different decks in pokemon than yugioh. Even with the yugioh banned list implemented to stop broken decks new cookie cutter broken decks rise. Take away Emperor and yata people use warrior/blacklustersoldier. I run a beatdown/control variant here and can get around those cookie decks.

BTW if you want a pidgeot buy a fire red preconstructed deck the one with a charmeleon on it. Yea the battle stadium is a great way to get back into things. Thats how i got back and now I run a Blaze~n~burn deck.

Good luck on your return back to pokemon. :thumb:
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Yeah Well I actually believe Pokemon is more an organized game then yugioh and plus I think it actually might have more strategies in it then yugioh, well lets say this, yugioh has endless amount of strategies but 80% of em are never used where as pokemon I believe all strategies and possibilites are used in this game. I mean I dont think its a kids game either, I dont think it ever was although I think WOTC near its ending run with the game was trying to make all a kids game and convert them into MTG players, luckily Pokemon USA and Nintendo put an end to that. I am just hoping the yugioh fad will end which I think its dying down now because that game is evil to most who play it IMHO if you read about what I said in the 1st post. truly though if yugioh never took over the Pokemon Leagues I wouldnt even be talking about this.

Wolf - yeah your right I guess, I got Celios network on me, realize I dont need trainer cards where you gotta flip and hope you get heads, been through that junk throughout the Neo Series.
 
Welcome back Wolf...convert more Yugi-oh people...tell them about the great prizes and great people. So far I haven't met a Pokemon player who wasn't nice and willing to help others get better or get them started. We want to rule the world of CCG's

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I always felt that Yu-Gi-Oh would never outlast Pokemon. Apparently I was right.

I think a lot of us need to start doing our part to re-populate the player base in Pokemon. There are people who converted to Yu-Gi-Oh who we need to convert back. Also there are players who quit after Nintendo took over who need to be brought back in. I think they'll be pleased with the way things are right now. I've never seen a more ballanced format than the current Modified Format in all of Pokemon's 6 years.
 
I think alot of people left during the WOTC reign of Pokemon, around the time the 15+ was taken out of the format many people left, I think WOTC during about the time the Neo Series came along wanted to convert people from Pokemon to MTG, hence why they got rid of the 15+ for modified and all, its prolly why pokemon usa and Nintendo never renewed with WOTC also, thats how I see it, but I think more people came back with the R/S Series, when nintendo took over and everything else, Nintendo IMO is rebuilding what WOTC was destroying cause I think wotc was destroying the game alot in its final year or so of the game.
 
People are probably going to hate me because of this post, but I don't think WotC was doing a very good job in its last months of doing Pokemon. The Neo-on Modified format was pretty unbalanced, even after the E-cards (Expedition, Aquapolis, and Skyridge). Comparitvely, Nintendo is doing a far better job. I've never seen so many playable decks and so many deck possibilities in a single format before. Out of 7 expansions (coming up on 8 and possibly 9 before the next format change comes), there are at least 10 decks that see widespread play. And that's just off the top of my head.
 
No your right, WOTC wasnt doing a very good job in its last few months with the game as I stated, they grew tired of supporting it and wanted em all to convert to MTG players.

8-10 different decks is alot of decks now, one thing I like again about Pokemon, how many did yugioh have? probably about 3. and thats from beginning to present.
 
Welcome back Wolf...convert more Yugi-oh people...tell them about the great prizes and great people. So far I haven't met a Pokemon player who wasn't nice and willing to help others get better or get them started. We want to rule the world of CCG's
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Um... Im not back...I never REALLY left, thats bullet. lol
 
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you know thats funny.... i remember bullet from ygo, and not pokemon ;)

anyway, its always nice to see people start playing pokemon again. i really think ygo is going through some tough times right now, and pokemon is gaining a lot of fans back that it lost to ygo, which is good, in my opinion

welcome back bullet, and just make sure not to leave again... or next time we might not be so forgiving ;)
 
Cant say I ever fully left, just drifted far away from the game, I mean I watch the Anime every Saturday morning and not even watch yugioh anime, kinda tells you I never really like yugioh right there.

Now Echidna I remember you at Pokemonzeo before ygo ever came along, I dunno if I ever registered on the forums or not. But I was on a site called ygorealms, got a few friends on it and alot of enemies. Then their was PTCO but thats a site that tried to keep nothing but 5 year old kids on it, then theirs Pokegym which I really have enjoyed the maturity of this site compared to others.

and no I dont plan on leaving or drifting away from this game again, their is an upcoming ygo regionals in my area I will attend to, but thats the only ygo related thing I ever be attending.
 
Blame WotC as much as y'all want for how they ran POP (15+, things like that).
But it's not really fair to blame them for what cards were being published.
They had to publish the cards that they were given.

If you feel that the card pool was bad during the tail end of Neo and the e-sets, lay that blame where it belongs, with the card designers. That was not WotC.
 
Really cant blame because your right, they had to print what was given to them over from Pokemon USA inc.
That really had nothing do with how WOTC was handling the game though that last year it had it.

What I would blame WOTC for was trying to destroy the game and #1 they invented these reverse holos, I dunno PUI told em to do that but really why invent em so people would have to spend more money completing sets? They banned 15+, ok so why ban it? its because I believe the whole MTG thing WOTC wanted to do, get the 15+ out of the Pokemon game and put em in the MTG game, POP and leagues was also scarce among WOTC was just fading from that also, I recall practically months before WOTC lost its license up to when it did lose its license that pretty much stopped any POP and the leagues, what leagues were going on were the ones that wasnt sanctioned and used left overs as the prizes.

So Really it comes down to WOTC nearly killed this game, they tore down what was a massive genere and they kept trying to put the Pokemon Players down so they would head to MTG or some other WOTC supported game, since Nintendo took over to me its been rebuilding and rebuilding really good, I think its gonna take som time to make up for what WOTC did though but it gonna come back stronger little by little.
 
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