what will win Nats

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  1. superman123

    superman123 New Member

    I think that it would prabably gg because it is so versitile.

    what do you think.Please give a reason.
    Thanks:biggrin:
     
    Last edited: Jun 7, 2008
  2. DarthPika

    DarthPika New Member

    This is a poll and will be locked unless you give reasones WHY it will probably win nats. For the record I don't think GG will win in Masters.
     
  3. mcoville

    mcoville New Member

    from what I have seen at Battle Roads I think the odds are in favor of GG, but a close contender will be Empoleon. As for red face paint decks it is hard to give odds on them because you don't know what will be played. So my odds would be:

    60% GG
    30% Empoleon
    10% red face paint deck
     
  4. supertyranitar

    supertyranitar New Member

    Plox still has a great advantage over the format at the moment. The ability to shut down powers at a fast rate (Setting up practically by t3-4), and keeping you down the entire game is nothing to laugh at. This is hard to contend with, since decks need powers to set themselves up. Empoleon, however, is an excellent damage spreader/Big hitter. It can use one to spread, and then Scramble and do the big damage, or continue to spread and use Omastar/Wager to completely kill their set up. These two decks rule the format at the moment, but honestly, I think Blissey will see some play. Bliss/Ban still has a good chance in the format, since Garchomp is seeing some play, Chansey has nice HP, and Banette takes out Gardy. Rogue, IMO, isn't going to get much spotlight since it's hard to contend with this format, thanks more so to Plox. Here's my percentages:

    50% Plox
    35% Empoleon
    10% Garchomp/Bliss Variants
    5% Rogue.
     
  5. mewlover777

    mewlover777 New Member

    Empoleon and rogues will definately have a chane this year.
     
  6. Professor Elm

    Professor Elm Active Member

    Honestly, I haven't been able to find a deck this season (aside from Banette) that consistently beats Plox.
    So, that would be my bet.
     
  7. mewlover777

    mewlover777 New Member

    My "new" empoleon has won against G&G decks every time. Banette is also a verrrrrry good counter, howveer it loses to most other decks unless you have an extremely good build. JMO
     
  8. rerisenphoenix

    rerisenphoenix New Member

    With the number of Plox/Gardellade builds I'm expecting to be at nat's, it'll be hard to overlook, so I think it stands a very good chance of continuing the dominance it held for the 11/15 Regionals it won.
     
  9. ~`Flygon`~

    ~`Flygon`~ New Member

    Yea like u need a great build for a deck that can outspeed every deck it faces and can do T280,how build of the deck do you need??

    Banette dosent use powers,Empoleon dosent use powers,Ape dosent need powers,Garchomp dosent need powersGlaceon builds use bodies,how effective can PLOX be if majority of the meta dont really need Powers.

    Gallade isnt that hard to get rid of that much. I think GG will be in top cut for the masters,but it probably wont win
     
  10. mca3

    mca3 New Member

    I think Plox will be that MAJOR contender, like stated by everyone else! But Empoleon is SO awesome, you all know How much I love it, and he will RELLY make an impact. I am Currently working on a Rogue version of him to contend AGAINST the major archetypes and possible mirror matches.

    I REALLY think Rogue decks can make a Great impact, IMO, MD really opened up the format for Rogues. I am Serious about that, its that you have to get everything settled in for those Darn Wagers!!!

    40% Plox
    10% Eevee Varients
    15% Banette
    15% Empoleon Varients
    20% Rogue FTW!!!
     
  11. Labman

    Labman New Member

    I actually believe that someone will pull out a "secret deck" that will run the show at nats. But it would take a very brave/skilled player to do so. Hopefully, archtypes are seen winning much less do to counter techs and rogue decks. But maybe it's just me:smile:.
     
  12. Rashad

    Rashad New Member

    There is a good chance a rogue deck will surprise everyone with a combo that no one recognized
     
  13. TheDarkTwins

    TheDarkTwins Active Member

    See I am not going to say Banette is a bad choice, but it isnt the best choice. I am going to use Jay (Sorry Jay) as an example. Last year Jay decide to play ScizorGross for US Nationals, even though there was an decent amount of Infernape running around. Now, I am not saying this was a bad choice, but Jay got lucky and didnt really run into any fire. Now, banette might not be the best choice as it most likely will run into some type of Empoleon or something that can't beat it. I mean if you really think that you can go 7-2 with it props to you, but I really think that the choice is GG or Empoleon if you want to decent. Or just choose a deck that you feel beats both. (There arent many that do). I think that most players are going to have a difficult time choosing.

    JMO,
    Drew
     
    Last edited: Jun 7, 2008
  14. Rambo1000

    Rambo1000 New Member

    i'd say rambolt 2.0
     
  15. ~`Flygon`~

    ~`Flygon`~ New Member

    Banette can beat Empoleon,Anything can beat Anything,I never just choice cuz one deck is there,I can understand if you said Magmortar,but with Empoleon around,that wont be a good choice, Banette can Empoleon,more than you can know,Empoleon is no way has the same effective on the matchup like Magmortar did,mag had accel,healing body and can attack for one.

    Ill play it just because Im sure Ill get lucky and play GG.Ill take that chance just cuz I know how to beat Empoleon if I run into it.
     
  16. TSDMage

    TSDMage New Member

    I personally think Empoleon has the best chance. I'm calling it: Empoleon destroys GG!
     
  17. The Phenom1993

    The Phenom1993 New Member

    This is the first year with no real arctypes..so we will see surprises at nationals and probably at worlds too
     
  18. The Breeder

    The Breeder New Member

    45 % GG
    40 % Empoleon
    5 % Garchomp
    10 % Secret Deck

    GG is still the most consistent deck out there, and if Empoleon starts to get big, GG will start to tech against it. GG is one of the decks that can include a big variety of techs, and get them out in a consistent way. Empoleon + Omastar will still be annoying to beat, especially if they max out Wager. Garchomp might have a little but unlikely chance to win. Secret decks is always dangerous but I doubt that anything unknown can beat both GG and Empoleon (along with the rest of the competition).
     
  19. Garch

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    How hasn't this been locked yet? o_0

    Anyway, I want garch to win :tongue: , but that ain't going to happen. G&G Has a good chance, but I think a crazy rogue will tear through the competition and beat everyone down!!!!!!! GO ROGUE!!!!!!!!!! >:D
     
  20. Rambo1000

    Rambo1000 New Member

    you must not be trying very hard
     
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