What will win US National Championship 2010-2011 ?
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sar86
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There was a lot of MagneBoar at Cdn Nats. It was having trouble against the speed of Yanmega.
Naki Feralkin
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^ Yet arguing that statement, there was one in Top 4? I fail to see the issue here. A solid list can still go very far. At this moment, the metagame is a crapshoot because can see that Yanmega/Zone is mortal and has that rocky matchup vs. ZPS, and Magneboar has little issues with ZPS.
IMHO you play Magneboar, Mega Judge, Donphan, kingdra/yan, or ZPS, you'll be fine so long as you know how to play the deck.
IMHO you play Magneboar, Mega Judge, Donphan, kingdra/yan, or ZPS, you'll be fine so long as you know how to play the deck.
Shino Bug Master
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If anything really "failed" to live up to expectations, its Donphan/Machamp. Gengar, Blastoise and Cinnccino maanged to squeak a little showing from top 16, even Ambipom got some light, but Machamp seemed quite neglected.
HRPrime
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One of these should:
MagneBoar
ReshiBoar
ZPS
Mew and Gengar
Yanmage Varents
DonChamp
Tyranitar Varents
But, how do we know? We are not Psychics (I am, I foresee someone telling me that Tyranitar can't be part of this list), are we? Who knows, an unknown deck may appear here for the first time a totally dominate Nats.
I know one way to answer this thread with know who will win 100%, waiting till Nats are over...
MagneBoar
ReshiBoar
ZPS
Mew and Gengar
Yanmage Varents
DonChamp
Tyranitar Varents
But, how do we know? We are not Psychics (I am, I foresee someone telling me that Tyranitar can't be part of this list
), are we? Who knows, an unknown deck may appear here for the first time a totally dominate Nats. I know one way to answer this thread with know who will win 100%, waiting till Nats are over...
Pokemon--Foo
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Whoops wrong thread. I tried to get into the "What will win US Nats thread" but i ended up in the "Useless batch of sarcastic remarks thread".
I think Yanmega/Magnezone or really solid MagneBoar will take it. Having a poke that lets you draw till 6 is soo good in a 9 round plus top 128 format.
I think Yanmega/Magnezone or really solid MagneBoar will take it. Having a poke that lets you draw till 6 is soo good in a 9 round plus top 128 format.
Charizard3712
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Haha I forgot that you know lol
Why don't we change the name of this tread to "what will be played at Nationals 2010-2011"? Because that's what is going on here. Seriously, the probability of being able to guess EXACTLY what is going to win Nats is equal to the probability that the sun will stop shining tomorrow. This is an argument of opinions, not of actual fact. Magneboar, ZPS, Yanmega varients...when will people get that they can stink beyond all credible imagination with a bad list but could sweep with the right list? It's not the deck, it's the player. Is the player intelligent and is playing a solid list? Or is he a dunce and plays a poorly built list? THAT is what will decide Nats. This isn't me getting after anyone by the way, this is just what I think. My two cents worth.
not sure why so many people think the Rayquaza bore deck will be so good. Almost everyone I know has the bull in the deck as a counter. They hit you for 150 you bring up the bull 90 x 2 weekness- goodbye Rayquaza!
I say magaboar
lostgar
Yanmaga with something
with all the fighing decks and fire decks-someone will come up with a killer water deck
I say magaboar
lostgar
Yanmaga with something
with all the fighing decks and fire decks-someone will come up with a killer water deck
I was planning on playing Blastoise/Floatzel/Magnezone for six weeks and Canada through me for a loop. MegaJudge seems like the play now.
JPN Gallade
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Right now, there are 4 pretty good contenders for winning U.S. nationals this year.
Magneboar
Donchamp
Reshiboar
ZPS
Allow me to explain.
1) Magneboar- Out of all of these four decks, this deck has the highest chance of winning if you ask me. Magneboar is overall a pretty good deck. It is pretty consistent and can deal lots of damage since it is all thanks to Magnezone Prime. Its power proves very good drawpower, and its attack is also pretty good, virtually able to KO anything with almost relative ease. Emboar helps to makes it attack more efficient by attaching lots of fire energies around the field, and put in some more cards like RDL, Tyrogue, Cleffa, and Reshiram and you have a pretty good deck. I won't be surprised if this deck wins our nats.
2) Donchamp- Basically the runner up for most likely to win U.S. nationals. It is perhaps the best deck out there as of now that uses Donphan. Donphan can hit quick with Earthquake, and its body makes it pretty hard to KO for most Pokemon. If it is still around, it can even go for a good 90 damage with Heavy Impact. Then in the deck comes Machamp. Machamp Prime can hit very hard with Champ Buster, and it has the potential to OHKO anything if all of your bench has damage counters on them, and this achieved through Donphan's Earthquake. Being a fighting-type deck, Donchamp has type advantage over Magenboar because Magnezone is weak to fighting. Of course, there is still the chance that Magneboar can beat it back. Otherwise, with ZPS winning Canadian nats, this deck is expected to see play nats for sure, and there is a good chance that it can win.
3) Reshiboar- It is very much like Magneboar, only you use Reshiram for attacking instead of Magnezone. The strategy is very much the same, with Emboar attaching up the fire energies to make attacking quicker and more efficient, and then there's a hard hitter that benefits from that, Reshiram. Reshiram can hit for 120 with three energy on it, and then 2 :fire: energies must be discarded afterwards. Emboar helps to make Reshiram attack every turn with an attack like this, although it can use Outrage from time to time if it has a lot of damage. The only problem with Reshiboar compared to Magneboar is that Reshirboar has huge weakness to water, in which anything water is basically an autoloss because Emboar and Reshiram share a water weakness. Because of this, Magneboar is often the better choice, but Reshiboar is still a good deck to use, and there's a nice possibility that it could win, but not as much as Reshiboar and Donchamp.
4) ZPS- ZPS stands for Zekrom, Pachirisu, and Shaymin in case anyone is wondering, and those three cards is what makes the deck. Zekrom is the big heavy hitter, hitting for 120 for three energy, but it does 40 to itself afterward. Since it can't discard energies, this makes it have a nice energy advantage compared to Reshiram. Pachirisu and Shaymin help power up Zekrom, and the combination of the two can even cause Zekrom to pull off a KO on its first turn, making Zekrom are very good deck to use early game. The 40 damage backlash allows it to hit harder with Outrage, making it able to pull off KOs on most basics. Despite the great early game advantage, there are problems for Zekrom. One is that it has a bad matchup to Donphan. Donphan can easily OHKO a Zekrom after a Bolt Strike since Zekrom is weak to fighting. That's why people use Yanmega Prime to help out against the matchup, but sometimes Yanemega won't get very far. The other problem, which is perhaps the deck's biggest problem, is that it has a pretty bad late game. Zekroms can get pretty well damaged after a few Bolt Strikes, making them easy for a KO. Therefore, there's a good chance your opponent will catch up to the point of winning. Due to this, ZPS doesn't have a good chance of winning compared to the other three decks.
So in the end, these four decks will probably win U.S. nationals, with Magneboar being the most likely. However, there are other decks that could win as well. These decks include Yanmega varients, Samurott/Donphan, and Lostgar, although Lostgar seems to stand of the three decks just listed. Who knows what will win though. We'll just have to see.
Magneboar
Donchamp
Reshiboar
ZPS
Allow me to explain.
1) Magneboar- Out of all of these four decks, this deck has the highest chance of winning if you ask me. Magneboar is overall a pretty good deck. It is pretty consistent and can deal lots of damage since it is all thanks to Magnezone Prime. Its power proves very good drawpower, and its attack is also pretty good, virtually able to KO anything with almost relative ease. Emboar helps to makes it attack more efficient by attaching lots of fire energies around the field, and put in some more cards like RDL, Tyrogue, Cleffa, and Reshiram and you have a pretty good deck. I won't be surprised if this deck wins our nats.
2) Donchamp- Basically the runner up for most likely to win U.S. nationals. It is perhaps the best deck out there as of now that uses Donphan. Donphan can hit quick with Earthquake, and its body makes it pretty hard to KO for most Pokemon. If it is still around, it can even go for a good 90 damage with Heavy Impact. Then in the deck comes Machamp. Machamp Prime can hit very hard with Champ Buster, and it has the potential to OHKO anything if all of your bench has damage counters on them, and this achieved through Donphan's Earthquake. Being a fighting-type deck, Donchamp has type advantage over Magenboar because Magnezone is weak to fighting. Of course, there is still the chance that Magneboar can beat it back. Otherwise, with ZPS winning Canadian nats, this deck is expected to see play nats for sure, and there is a good chance that it can win.
3) Reshiboar- It is very much like Magneboar, only you use Reshiram for attacking instead of Magnezone. The strategy is very much the same, with Emboar attaching up the fire energies to make attacking quicker and more efficient, and then there's a hard hitter that benefits from that, Reshiram. Reshiram can hit for 120 with three energy on it, and then 2 :fire: energies must be discarded afterwards. Emboar helps to make Reshiram attack every turn with an attack like this, although it can use Outrage from time to time if it has a lot of damage. The only problem with Reshiboar compared to Magneboar is that Reshirboar has huge weakness to water, in which anything water is basically an autoloss because Emboar and Reshiram share a water weakness. Because of this, Magneboar is often the better choice, but Reshiboar is still a good deck to use, and there's a nice possibility that it could win, but not as much as Reshiboar and Donchamp.
4) ZPS- ZPS stands for Zekrom, Pachirisu, and Shaymin in case anyone is wondering, and those three cards is what makes the deck. Zekrom is the big heavy hitter, hitting for 120 for three energy, but it does 40 to itself afterward. Since it can't discard energies, this makes it have a nice energy advantage compared to Reshiram. Pachirisu and Shaymin help power up Zekrom, and the combination of the two can even cause Zekrom to pull off a KO on its first turn, making Zekrom are very good deck to use early game. The 40 damage backlash allows it to hit harder with Outrage, making it able to pull off KOs on most basics. Despite the great early game advantage, there are problems for Zekrom. One is that it has a bad matchup to Donphan. Donphan can easily OHKO a Zekrom after a Bolt Strike since Zekrom is weak to fighting. That's why people use Yanmega Prime to help out against the matchup, but sometimes Yanemega won't get very far. The other problem, which is perhaps the deck's biggest problem, is that it has a pretty bad late game. Zekroms can get pretty well damaged after a few Bolt Strikes, making them easy for a KO. Therefore, there's a good chance your opponent will catch up to the point of winning. Due to this, ZPS doesn't have a good chance of winning compared to the other three decks.
So in the end, these four decks will probably win U.S. nationals, with Magneboar being the most likely. However, there are other decks that could win as well. These decks include Yanmega varients, Samurott/Donphan, and Lostgar, although Lostgar seems to stand of the three decks just listed. Who knows what will win though. We'll just have to see.
DragonClyne725
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What, no Yanmega? After it doing so well at Canada's Nationals Yanmega/Kingdra will definitely be one of the contenders at our Nats
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Pikajew1213
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Baby deck every single baby out there it will be amazing!!