vanderbilt_grad
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This was touched on elsewhere, but it probably deserves it’s own topic.
Why in the world aren’t more people playing Cessation Crystal?
Castaway is already one of the best supporters in format. Why not take advantage of it?
The counter-argument that I was that no decks really used powers much this season ... to which I say WRONG! Just look at What won Cities. It’s loaded up with decks like:
* Garde/lade – shut down Gardevoir and they loose major consistancy & speed.
* Gatr – shut down Delcatty & Mags and they loose a ton of speed and power.
* Darkwing Duck – That’s one sad duck when his Murkrows can’t use his attack.
* Nidoqueen / King – Nearly the whole thing is power reliant
* Infernape / Delcatty – folds to Cess and regular damage.
* Magmortar / Typhlosion / Delcatty – everything has powers / bodies
* Venasaur / Furret – While they have nice attacks it’s the powers that puts it over the top
* R-Gon – Without Delta-Supply how are they special?
There’s more, but what I’m trying to show is that the huge majority of decks that won BRs use powers heavily. The non-powered decks are there but look to me to be in the minority.
My personally theory is that Cess is seeing less play because:
* Many folks like powers & some of the new ones are really fun / good
* More good non-Colorless/Dark/Metal powers so Battle Frontier isn’t as useful for additional support.
* Cursed Stone was rotated – it’s still easy to turn off powers but harder to punish them
* Windstorm
* Warp Point
* Simply not having room since we need so many other trainers in this format.
The thing is that I see most decks going to 2-3 Windstorms, so if you load up the Cess it seems like you ought to be able to make the Crystal stick some especially since it’s searchable and Windstorm isn’t.
The biggest factor seems to be Cursed Stone being gone & Battle Frontier loosing some of its utility IMHO. This does make it harder to make sure that you cut the powers off or punish them even if they aren’t ... but BF is still good against nearly 2/3 of the decks I listed above even if it doesn’t specifically help against Garde/lade.
Also without the Holon Engine, VS Seeker, and such the format seems to require that decks run a LOT of trainers. Even moreso with Absol. Many decks simply don't have room to run 4+ power killing cards and keep their own consistancy. The flipside to this is that the format seems to reward speed more than ever right now ... T2 disruption decks are very playable ... but folks are still going for the stage 2 powerhouses.
So tell me again ... why aren’t folks running Cess?
Why in the world aren’t more people playing Cessation Crystal?
Castaway is already one of the best supporters in format. Why not take advantage of it?
The counter-argument that I was that no decks really used powers much this season ... to which I say WRONG! Just look at What won Cities. It’s loaded up with decks like:
* Garde/lade – shut down Gardevoir and they loose major consistancy & speed.
* Gatr – shut down Delcatty & Mags and they loose a ton of speed and power.
* Darkwing Duck – That’s one sad duck when his Murkrows can’t use his attack.
* Nidoqueen / King – Nearly the whole thing is power reliant
* Infernape / Delcatty – folds to Cess and regular damage.
* Magmortar / Typhlosion / Delcatty – everything has powers / bodies
* Venasaur / Furret – While they have nice attacks it’s the powers that puts it over the top
* R-Gon – Without Delta-Supply how are they special?
There’s more, but what I’m trying to show is that the huge majority of decks that won BRs use powers heavily. The non-powered decks are there but look to me to be in the minority.
My personally theory is that Cess is seeing less play because:
* Many folks like powers & some of the new ones are really fun / good
* More good non-Colorless/Dark/Metal powers so Battle Frontier isn’t as useful for additional support.
* Cursed Stone was rotated – it’s still easy to turn off powers but harder to punish them
* Windstorm
* Warp Point
* Simply not having room since we need so many other trainers in this format.
The thing is that I see most decks going to 2-3 Windstorms, so if you load up the Cess it seems like you ought to be able to make the Crystal stick some especially since it’s searchable and Windstorm isn’t.
The biggest factor seems to be Cursed Stone being gone & Battle Frontier loosing some of its utility IMHO. This does make it harder to make sure that you cut the powers off or punish them even if they aren’t ... but BF is still good against nearly 2/3 of the decks I listed above even if it doesn’t specifically help against Garde/lade.
Also without the Holon Engine, VS Seeker, and such the format seems to require that decks run a LOT of trainers. Even moreso with Absol. Many decks simply don't have room to run 4+ power killing cards and keep their own consistancy. The flipside to this is that the format seems to reward speed more than ever right now ... T2 disruption decks are very playable ... but folks are still going for the stage 2 powerhouses.
So tell me again ... why aren’t folks running Cess?
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