Why can't I get Empoleon to win for me?

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  1. Martian

    Martian Member

    I started another thread related to this question at http://pokegym.net/forums/showthread.php?t=62646

    In a nutshell I don't have access to all the older EX series cards as the Family shares resources and Mom and Dad get the short end of the lolly-pop!
    (and I really don't want to invest too heavily in cards I can't use next year.)

    So how can I speed up / improve my deck to hit harder and faster?

    cut from the other thread:

    Any help is appreciated.

    A Poke-Dad
    Last edited: Nov 13, 2007
  2. DarthPika

    DarthPika New Member

    This list looks pretty good. Leave the pkmn line as is. If you can get Castaway and Cessation Crystal, that would greatly help the deck. Other than that it looks lclose to a basic Empoleon Lucario deck.
  3. Rainbowgym

    Rainbowgym Active Member

    I would at least make it 4 Multi, because you don't have DRE they can be very handy.
    1 Boost can be left out for it, and maybe 1 fighting.
  4. empoleonperson

    empoleonperson Active Member

    dont give up i bet you dont have as much electivire metagame as i did lol Yeah i used them in both of my br and did okay both losing to electivire so if that happens put in a 1-1-1 blastoise delta
  5. Darkwalker

    Darkwalker New Member

    If you are currently swamped with Blissey and Garchomp try these trainers out to help against those specific decks. Crystal Shard, to make your active pokemon Colorless for that turn (and hit into Garchomp's weakness). No more than 2 of these should turn the tide in that match. Energy Removal 2 to help get rid of the Holon FF that Blissey plays or the Lighting or Psychic energy on Garchomp that is hurting you so much. Play as many as you can fit in as they are flippy, but they also slow your opponent down if you hit heads. Lake Boundary, this will give Garchomp and Blssey 2X weakness to your Crystal Shard (for Garchomp) and Lucario (for Blissey).

    As for your energy choices. Boost doesn't help, try and replace it with a Scramble or a Holon's Castform.

    One last thing, you have only 21 pokemon listed (not 23) so either add in a 1-1 Mantine to get free retreat for Empoleon, the 1-1 Delcatty to help with a little bit of draw, or just add 2 more trainers.
  6. mbrisius93

    mbrisius93 New Member

    I like help pokedad ^^


    Pokemon n° 18
    4x Piplup
    3x Prinplup
    3x Empoleon
    4x Riolu
    3x Lucario
    1x Lucario Lv X

    Trainer n° 26
    2x Castaway
    3x Cessation Crystal
    1x Buffer Piece/Strenght Charm/Crystal Shard (I use buffer)
    4x Celio's Network
    2x Master Ball
    2x Roseanne
    2x Great Ball
    1x Copycat/TGW (I like Copycat)
    1x Professor Rowan
    2x Steven's Advice
    3x TV Reporter/Oak Visit (I like TV Reporter, for a consistant Dig-up... :lol:)
    3x Rare Candy
    1x TSD
    1x Night Maintenance

    Energy n° 16
    3x Scramble
    2x Multy
    6x Fight
    5x Water

  7. Martian

    Martian Member

    Thank you for the suggested list .

    My real focus is to find a way to be competitive using a majority of Diamond and Pearl.
    I want to try and stick with the DP series cards for the most part as we (the family) just started playing with that set. We have few of the older cards and would rather invest in cards usable in the next rotation.

    2x Castaway (none in our household)
    3x Cessation Crystal (none in our household)
    1x Buffer Piece/Strenght Charm/Crystal Shard (I use buffer) (I have 2 Buffer Pieces and lots of Plus Powers)
    4x Celio's Network (got 'em, cost me a Mew but got em)
    2x Master Ball (one Master and lots of Dusk balls)
    2x Roseanne (got these)
    2x Great Ball (none in our household)
    1x Copycat/TGW (I like Copycat) (I have the TGW but no 'CCat'
    1x Professor Rowan (got it)
    2x Steven's Advice (none in our household)
    3x TV Reporter/Oak Visit (I like TV Reporter, for a consistant Dig-up... :lol:) (got these)
    3x Rare Candy (got about 9!)
    1x TSD (pulled TWO so far! My kids ask me to pull packs for them now!)
    1x Night Maintenance (got it)
    3x Scramble (none in our household but I'm working to find them!)

    new Poke-Dad
  8. hk27

    hk27 New Member

    What i think would work better so you don't have any energy prob.s is go straight empo. with a 3-3 mantine line. Try to get the scrambles in your deck and put super scoop ups and warps in you deck. Its situational if you have no energies retreat and warp for stalling or switching your opponents pokemon. The most important card here is now getting some DRE's in your deck to even make mantine a good ko pkmn.
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