Why Does Japan Get ALL the Good Stuff before anyone else?

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  1. pokemonrocks777

    pokemonrocks777 Front Page News Editor

    With the PMD: 4, 5 ,6, Pokepark all for WII and Black and White, D/P/PT. HGSS, all for DS and the movies like Arceus and the Jewl of life (Has that EVEN been in the USA yet?)


    All that means is that with the games the japanese can beat the games before us and iv and ev their pokemon. that's how they keep winning world

    THE TCG as well. I mean Unleashed, LL CARDS and HGSS.

    and they get it all before us and why are they so different??

    i mean that is how they either place top cut in worlds in VGC or TCG

    and EVENT'S in the VG and all of that stuff

    WHY japan WHY?

    From HomeofMew
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2010
  2. pat460

    pat460 New Member

    Because Pokemon is Japanese
  3. Sabett

    Sabett Active Member

    No place supports pokemon like japan does, other countries can't afford to be up to date, so to speak, with the fanbase that they have.
  4. DJGigabyte

    DJGigabyte Forum Moderator

    If I've heard correctly, then the Japanese players at Worlds may not use cards that have not yet been released in other languages.

    Also if you look at the Masters division winners (I don't know the other divisions off the top of my head):

    2004: Yamato (Japan)
    2005: Jeremy Maron (USA)
    2006: Jason K (USA)
    2007: Tom Roos (Europe- Finland I think)
    2008: Jason K (USA)
    2009: Steve Silvestro (USA)

    You can see that the Japanese don't always do the best at TCG tournaments, as they have only won 1 Worlds out of 6, compared to the USA's 4.

    Also, Pokemon is originally from Japan, it is created by Japanese people, and then (if I understand the process correctly) they are sent over to other related companies who creates local versions of TCG sets etc.

    It's never going to change.
  5. tehmoe

    tehmoe New Member

    obvious question has obvious answer. its from japan. they make it there then they need to translate everything after they send it here.
  6. The King Of Magikarps

    The King Of Magikarps Active Member

    Argeed much.......
  7. Sabett

    Sabett Active Member

    It wouldn't be like that if there' was just as much support here as there is there.
  8. weavile#1

    weavile#1 New Member

    Japan is probably wondering why Worlds is in USA :p
  9. SD PokeMom

    SD PokeMom Mod Supervisor Staff Member

    that doesn't even make sense: the games, cards, movies/anime are created there in japan, and take time to be translated for non-japanese markets...

  10. Sabett

    Sabett Active Member

    ......and would be supplied to other countries at the same time, if it were large enough to do so. Look at magic.

    EDIT: Also. pokebeach seems to be able to translate pokemon sets within hours of it being released in japan. Translating is no excuse to create an entirely different format, or for the US to be nearly 2 sets behind all the time.
    Last edited: Jun 8, 2010
  11. SD PokeMom

    SD PokeMom Mod Supervisor Staff Member

    magic doesn't have a videogame and anime/movies to coordinate it's releases with, either...

  12. Sabett

    Sabett Active Member

    It does have a video game, not that its coordinated. Also, you're only supporting my claim even more. Why would they give Japan things before everything else, just because it was centered there? If the support was equal all over, wouldn't they create more money from creating it in english in the first place? They're going to suffer profits to simply have it in their home town first? Also they get a lot better promos there, such as pokemon downloads before us, pokemon cards when attending the pokemon movies which are shown in theaters. When's the last time a pokemon movie has seen the big screen? Whens the last time we've had movie promos? Also if translating was the issue, then why do places like australia receive the video game downloads after us?
  13. DJGigabyte

    DJGigabyte Forum Moderator

    @Sabett: The last movie promo we had was a non-holo DP24 Darkrai which came with the DVD of The Rise of Darkrai which was the last movie to be released on DVD (I don't think Shaymin is out yet on DVD)
    And the movies stopped being on the big screen because no-one was going to see them. To keep releasing them just to keep in line with Japan would be a ridiculous waste of money.
  14. Sabett

    Sabett Active Member

    ........that's not a movie promo, a movie promo is when you go to the movies to see a pokemon movie, and they give you a pokemon card. No one wants to go see them outside of japan, which supports my point. It wouldn't be a ridiculous waste of money, unless you're suggesting to suddenly release a bunch of sets suddenly, which is not what I'm saying to do. Also, what you call a ridiculous waste of money, if you're not talking about sets out nowhere and suddenly, is a bigger market and larger support which allows for the card company to be more lenient on how much they charge and the quantity of key cards they put into the market. The pokemon market in Japan can do that, and they can afford to have sets before anyone else in the world, other places, like the US, can't, because we dont have enough support.
  15. DJGigabyte

    DJGigabyte Forum Moderator

    My comment about a ridiculous waste of money was referring to putting the films in cinema's if noone is going to see them.

    Also if you reason that a movie promo must have been obtained at a cinema to be a movie promo (which I dont agree with, I think it just has to be related to the movie) then you are saying that the Advent of Arceus set which contained Ash's Pikachu, Gizamimi Pichu etc wasn't a movie set because it was sold in booster packs. Looking at it though it clearly is a movie promo set.
  16. kskott

    kskott Member

    Although the Japanese fanbase is much stronger than the US or international when it comes to these things (at least from my perspective), it is the fact that Pokemon is inherently Japanese that causes the delays and changes when introduced to international markets. The Pokemon company is a Japanese company, headquartered in Tokyo, that oversees the Pokemon franchise (Wikipedia "The Pokemon Company"). The Pokemon Company International is a subsidiary of the main Japanese company (pokemon.com/us/about) that deals with Pokemon outside of Asia, excluding Australia. Nintendo Australia oversees Pokemon in the country (same Wikipedia article). Pokemon begins in Japan with The Pokemon Company, then it is given to TPCi and Nintendo Australia for international release. Translation of the video game could take quite some effort, but with the TCG being easy enough to translate (the Pokebeach example given) the delay might come more from transitioning from one branch of the company to another. Like trying to go from a primary physician to a specialist, there's bound to be some corporate bureaucracy that holds up the process.

    Even when Wizards was printing the TCG at the initial boom of Pokemon in the US, there was a delay of about a year between sets released in Japan and in their US release date. Considering the way things are now, us in the non-Japan markets have it pretty good.
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2010
  17. homeofmew

    homeofmew Active Member

    The question I have why is the Japanese version of Pokémon so much cooler :/
  18. Sabett

    Sabett Active Member

    Why is magic released in foreign places at the same time as in the US then?

    And Homeofmew brought up a very good point, have you seen their foils? I swear I could use the lv.Xs as a coaster, the cards in the US can not compare.
  19. pokemonrocks777

    pokemonrocks777 Front Page News Editor

    ok Quit tagging i was just wondering y does japan get awesome stuff. and have it open for discussion good night.

    So quit tagging this theard.

    P.S homeofmew did bring up a good point so i'm going to place that in quotes
  20. Biggie

    Biggie Master Trainer

    I'm not going to get into a complex debate with you about our internal processes (because I can't) but I feel the need to point out that they are a different company with entirely different workflow from ours.

    While I understand what you are basing your conclusions on, you should be aware that your conclusions have been formed in the absence of some pretty important facts.
    This is not your fault, after all you simply do not have the opportunity to see how different our processes are behind the scenes and why those differences are necessary.
    Because I can't get into those behind the scenes kind of details, all I can do is assure you that we are always improving and looking at opportunities to continue improving. If you have feedback on our processes, products, and even our global release schedule, I hope you decide to contact us directly with these suggestions or concerns so that you can be part of our growth.

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