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^Once again, "collectible" means nothing. I cannot understand why you would not call the cards what they are: "WC" cards. According to my handy dictionary, collectible means "capable of being collected.". ANYTHING can be collectible. Rocks can be collectible... poker chips can be collectible... and cards (any kind) can be collectible. That is just slimy to describe the cards using very subjective diction. Go for a more objective outlook on them if you want to keep your customers happy.

Also, nobody cares where you get your WC cards... they are not worth more than the decks they come from, and you, as a seller, should know that. Anybody who buys them clearly do not know what they are buying (due to your poor titling), or do not know why WC cards are not valuable. I can go to a local walmart to get a WC deck for $20ish (inc tax). There is no reason that people would be buying 1/60 of that deck for double the deck's price. Just watch what you do.
 
Xpoke, when you sent it, it did not say WC, it said Ulra Rare Uxie X. It did not say ANYTHING about being WC.
 
z-man said:
^Once again, "collectible" means nothing. I cannot understand why you would not call the cards what they are: "WC" cards. According to my handy dictionary, collectible means "capable of being collected.". ANYTHING can be collectible. Rocks can be collectible... poker chips can be collectible... and cards (any kind) can be collectible. That is just slimy to describe the cards using very subjective diction. Go for a more objective outlook on them if you want to keep your customers happy.

Also, nobody cares where you get your WC cards... they are not worth more than the decks they come from, and you, as a seller, should know that. Anybody who buys them clearly do not know what they are buying (due to your poor titling), or do not know why WC cards are not valuable. I can go to a local walmart to get a WC deck for $20ish (inc tax). There is no reason that people would be buying 1/60 of that deck for double the deck's price. Just watch what you do.
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Fair enough on your point about us knowing price, but just to that point we are able to sell at whatever the market dictates the value. It may sound shady, but there are packs on Amazon that anyone can go to Walmart and get for $3, but they are willing to pay $5+ on Amazon simply for whatever reason. Price is completely dictated by the consumer.

The point of overcharging and calling it "New" is completely cheating (which we were at fault of), which is why we immediately offered the refund, the mistake was noticed after sending out the card, so we realized they purchased it likely without ever having to read the description (because it was likely bought from the Buy Box).

Collectible is Amazon's category for cards that aren't "New." So if there is any sort of defect or difference. These cards NEVER show up in buy box, and you must click them specifically and 100% of the time the description is read because it is not listed as new people read it to see what sort of defect it may have. So in this case we are able to put a description there, which we know will be read, and we mention it is a WC (World Championship) Card in the description.

We are unable to make a specific category for "World Championship," so this is the only real way to sell this card.

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Blitzer said:
Xpoke, when you sent it, it did not say WC, it said Ulra Rare Uxie X. It did not say ANYTHING about being WC.
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In the comments (my mistake we said description previously) it did:
Comments: WC (WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP) Card!! Mint Condition, will come in toploader + bubble envelope

This is one thing about Amazon that is difficult, we wish it would actually state our comments under the buy box or something.

The problem in a nutshell was our misplacement. Had it not been listed under "New," then you would've never bought it and the mistake would've never happened (because it wouldn't have shown up in buy box), but we did put it under there by mistake.

The actual card page, is just a layout made by 1 person however long ago, and all the sellers just list under that same category for that specific card. It prevents the cluttered mess that Ebay has, but there is a higher likelihood for mistakes like this to occur.
 
Amazons system is awful, I can absolutly see this happening, and if you dont even nread the desciption.. I guess amazon just stacks everything called "Uxie Lv.X" together. And is 55$ cheap? I still have a spare one, seems like I should try to get rid of it, never kenw it was still this expensive xD

Anyway, I think the explanation above sounds reasonable
 
Once again, "collectible" means nothing. I cannot understand why you would not call the cards what they are: "WC" cards. According to my handy dictionary, collectible means "capable of being collected.". ANYTHING can be collectible. Rocks can be collectible... poker chips can be collectible... and cards (any kind) can be collectible. That is just slimy to describe the cards using very subjective diction. Go for a more objective outlook on them if you want to keep your customers happy.

Also, nobody cares where you get your WC cards... they are not worth more than the decks they come from, and you, as a seller, should know that. Anybody who buys them clearly do not know what they are buying (due to your poor titling), or do not know why WC cards are not valuable. I can go to a local walmart to get a WC deck for $20ish (inc tax). There is no reason that people would be buying 1/60 of that deck for double the deck's price. Just watch what you do.
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I absolutely love this.

Anyone and everyone knows that a World Championship card is word only the material it is printed on. Intentionally selling a WC card for $45.00 or $55.00 USD whatever it is, is the most disgusting thing you could do in Pokemon TCG business, save for selling fakes. The seller of this card is crooked. Regardless your defense, Mr. xpoke, you attempted to rip someone off by selling the thing for such a ludicrous price anyway!

Your reasoning has no basis as once again, it's a scam, a rip, a sleazy sell when you do this. I do hope you do not flatter yourself with my paragraph as I deeply despise sellers on Amazon, eBay, and all other sites that attempt to do what you have successfully completed.
 
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Everyone Esplode Noaw said:
I absolutely love this.

Anyone and everyone knows that a World Championship card is word only the material it is printed on. Intentionally selling a WC card for $45.00 or $55.00 USD whatever it is, is the most disgusting thing you could do in Pokemon TCG business, save for selling fakes. The seller of this card is crooked. Regardless your defense, Mr. xpoke, you attempted to rip someone off by selling the thing for such a ludicrous price anyway!

Your reasoning has no basis as once again, it's a scam, a rip, a sleazy sell when you do this. I do hope you do not flatter yourself with my paragraph as I deeply despise sellers on Amazon, eBay, and all other sites that attempt to do what you have successfully completed.
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You make absolutely no sense.

This world is based on economics of supply and demand. If Walmart gets packs of cards for $10 each, and many of my suppliers get the same price, yet they sell to me for $15. HOW DARE THEY?!?! Is this what you are saying?

The rule of business is one must make a profit, and whatever the market dictates is the profit that is receivable. This is what we estimated as fair price (like it was previously stated, we don't buy WC cards intentionally it happened to come in a lot of cards we purchased from someone else, so the price was completely just a guess of what we felt the market would pay), and we had sold 1 more of this card under collectibles, and the person was happy with what they received. Not everyone uses them for tournaments, so it is technically a real card.

It is STATED what the card is, there is no intended scam. It makes sense why you would hate a free market society because how dare people make profits, lets go to socialism! :rolleyes:

It may seem as horrible a practice as you want to call it, but fact is we sell many cards at whatever the market may dictate, these prices could be found cheaper elsewhere or more expensive, but as long as sales are being made sellers are going to keep selling at that price.

Also to anyone asks a question or complaint, there is usually a response made on the same day from our end, so we try to prevent any confusion, but it does happen and that's the reason for the refund.

As shocking as this may seem in this world, we too have had problems on orders, and we have asked for refunds, sometimes we get them, sometimes we don't. All the seller can do is offer the refund and apologize because whatever happened in the past happened. Mistakes do happen, and sellers are looking for PROFIT, or else how can they survive?
 
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@ xpoke:

While I agree that everyone is entitled to making mistakes and that you were good to apologize, c'mon man! Everyone knows you can take advantage (and you well know that's exactly what you were doing by offering a worthless card at that price) of someone who isn't in the know (like an unenvolved parent/grandparent or newbie) by offering similar cards from WC decks at a slightly lower price.

Greed is what drives this pursuit, and this greed is deliberate fraud in that some ignorant person will stumble across your shady listing and be duped into buying something other than what they intended. You should seriously be shamed and I hope that now since you are known, everyone in the Pokemon community will shun you until you rectify your actions. There is absolutely nothing you can say to justify this. I really hope you cease the slimy practice.

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This world is based on economics of supply and demand.
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Which is all good when what you're supplying is what's being demanded. It's a whole 'nother story when you resort to underhanded tactics to dupe people. Bait and switch which you used (fraud) is completely different from supply and demand (free market). So don't go patting yourself on the back thinking you're a shrewd businessman when in fact you are nothing more than a sneak thief. When people do this with money, it's referred to as a Panzi scheme and is punished with hard time.
 
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Everyone Esplode Noaw said:
Whatever you say. :)
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Actually what you are saying makes no sense, this dude is perfectly entitled to sell cards for whatever price he wants, however much you personally "find it disgusting". He admitted the card was listed in error for that price and is making attempts for resolution with the OP, he shouldn't have to come back here defending his business practices against all of you flamers.

I recommend you don't bother feeding the trolls more xpoke guy, people here are pretty dead set in their belief that charging anything for a WC price is akin to being the devil. You'll just end up aggravating yourself while giving them a high.
 
^ the problem comes that they don't inform the customer that the can get that very card + 59 others for only $10. :/

How would you like to buy something for a lot of money, only to find out

1. it's not what you were looking for, and you can't use it for what you wanted
2. You could have gotten it + a whole bunch more of them/similar stuff for only a fraction of the price.

Let's say you bought a Ferrari for 70K because it was cheap, only to find out that they buyer had knowingly sold you a "replica", and that it's only really worth a few hundred? I don't think you would be all that happy, would you?

Selling any 1 card out of a WC deck for more than the deck is a pretty serious scam.

For the record, until this behavior stops, I will inform EVERYONE I know not to buy from you xpoke. I know most of the local league leaders/TO's, and I'm sure they can very quickly spread the word not to buy from you. What your doing is a scam, and should be considered criminal.
 
uixe

i have a uixe LV.X in my binder also i got a drapion LV.X it is realy cool oh yester day i found a entei & suicune legnd and i built a deck out of old cards:rolleyes:
 
Read through this because the bold type in the thread listing was starting to bug me.

If the Uxie had been listed for say $5 + shipping that would be one thing.

I don't see why you should expect anyone to pay $45 for a card that is for all intents and purposes fake. "Supply and demand" - No one wants fake Uxies. No one.

It's just proper to offer the refund, and that's cool, but you shouldn't have sold the card for a price even resembling the "real" Uxie X in the first place. It's not worth that much, and anyone who thinks it is is kidding themselves.
 
How is this a scam if the guy is offering you a full refund? Or am I just reading this wrong? Mistakes happen. I can go to Mikey D's and order a big mac. It is a possibility that they will give me a plain cheeseburger. I go up to the register and ask for a big mac or a refund. I don't consider it a scam, because they offered me a refund.

So, if this guy is offering to give you a legally playable Uxie X or a full refund, then it is not a scam--just a mistake. However, if you don't get your money back, then yes, it is a scam.
 
let's say you bought a ferrari for 70k because it was cheap, only to find out that they buyer had knowingly sold you a "replica", and that it's only really worth a few hundred? I don't think you would be all that happy, would you?

Selling any 1 card out of a wc deck for more than the deck is a pretty serious scam.

For the record, until this behavior stops, i will inform everyone i know not to buy from you xpoke. I know most of the local league leaders/to's, and i'm sure they can very quickly spread the word not to buy from you. What your doing is a scam, and should be considered criminal.
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THANK YOU! I don't understand why everyone is saying what I think makes no sense. It's a scam any way you put it.
 
The only 'demand' that exists is for tournament legal Uxie LV X from Legends Awakened.

The high demand for that card makes it worth $50+

The demand for WC Uxie X is very, very low . . . and the supply is huge. That card is worth <$5

So, why would someone pay $45 dollars for the WC version? Only if they were under the impression that it was the tournament legal card.

The question is, did the seller do everything they could to represent their product truthfully? If not, then they are guilty of deception (even if it is 'accidental').
 
baby mario said:
So, why would someone pay $45 dollars for the WC version? Only if they were under the impression that it was the tournament legal card.
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OR if they do not know what they are looking at. Imagine somebody asking for a Uxie X for their birthday. Naturally, one would google for Uxie X and they may find the WC version. The WC version is $10 less than the normal version, so the gift giver buys it. That is about $40 dollars overspent for a pointless card.
 
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