Yamoleon (Yamato Empoleon)(changed alot)

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  1. bonsly1994

    bonsly1994 New Member

    2-2 Octillery
    1-1 Mantine
    4-3-3-1 Empoleon line
    2-2 Dodrio

    9 water
    4 DRE
    3 scramble

    1 battle fronteir
    2 Glacia's Stadium
    4 Celios
    4 rare candy
    2 Holon Mentor
    3 Steven's Advice
    2 Scott
    2 Castaway
    3 plus power

    card purposes:
    Prinplup:spreads damage fast and can KO early.
    Empoleon: the main attacker... it deals massive damage and hits benches. This is a neccesity to the deck and a T2 loaded is nasty
    Empoleon lv.X: holds off there hand and snipes for a huge 80! And the added health and able to use previous attacks... it's not half-bad
    Rare Candy: Speeds the deck up and lets you setup emps fast.
    celio: gets all my pokemon and don't have to discard etc.
    octillery: an awesome addition. 40 T2 and dicards for a 60 attack. Really good sniper!
    Dodrio: hits 3 evolved for 30 spreading damage like crrazy leading up to a ko snipe.
    Mantine & Mantyke: This is a mentorable duo and lets me free retreat emps, and octillery for free
    DRE: allows me to setup a fast attack and gives me energies I need
    scramble: this helps me sooo much as if i'm losing provides me for whatever I need

    Deck matchups:

    This ones pretty tricky... with the speed it could damage me good, but with OHKO on my side not much worry is needed. I simply snipe return, snipe and repeat process. Shouldn't be a mad matchup.

    It's metagame appearence might decrease but I can't count this deck out! Basically Delcatty's an easy 2 prize while I can snipe and then Hit infernapes KO. Unless I have a horrible start I should pull through.

    This actually placed top 4 in Worlds so no doubt will see it rear it's face again. Basically PP on lv.X are a KO on Lucario. Though Machamp can be a real pain... as long as it's been hit once it'll only get 0-1 prizes before it's gone. This is a hard matchup but it shouldn't be devastating

    Yeah... this won't be pretty. With the efficiency and speed this will be one tough cookie. I just need the better hand and setup and hope they donk. With the fast spread of damage and T2 KO's it'll be incredibly hard. This is a deck I have to worry about a lot.

    With all the combo variants with the card it's a no brainer we'll see this. With good attacks and a nast poke-power it will easily annoy this deck. Especially with the weakness factor this is gonna be the times where you see an elikid or electabuzz you kill it no matter whatL

    This shouldn't be too much of a hassle but the damage it delas is nasty. 2 hits and it'll be down but we'll have to watch out! As long as you can shut it down it shouldn't be a big problem.

    For 100 damage to anyone and still able to use a diffrent attack, definetley a threat. As long as you sniped at it before you should OHKO it. You just have to watch out for that ability too.

    Yes a mirror match is not fun and it's really just who gets the better hand or what the deck contains. I'll have to worry about this somewhat.

    strategy: To get an Empoleon hitting at least T3 sniping away at bench stopping there game plan...
    then lv up if needed or start one on bench and 80 if needed... if I do use the 80 attack, mantine free retreats my Empoleon lv.X and I send out an empoleon and cycle through:D Help appreciated...

    Last edited: Aug 30, 2007
  2. Skull Bash

    Skull Bash New Member

    So..what exactly is the point of Bebe's? You also need some DRE.
  3. bonsly1994

    bonsly1994 New Member

    I know forgot to edit... but it's basically just to speed it up, but most prob. i'll take it out...
  4. Grandielle

    Grandielle New Member

    actually how does this deck works? I've seen many players talking about this deck. Strategy please!!
  5. Ardoptres

    Ardoptres New Member

    Yamato is not the best player.. -_-

    Anyways, you need night maintenance.
  6. Van78

    Van78 New Member

    so this deck is yamoleon just because the 1-1 infernape?... he was using that as a tech against scyzor... i dont think that will be usefull in this format...
  7. drrty byl

    drrty byl New Member

    I'm pretty sure the list he was running used Corsola (UF) to set up bench and also [holon engine]
  8. Jaeger

    Jaeger New Member

    1st, 5th and 3rd and worlds out of 4 years yea he is.
  9. charmander rox

    charmander rox New Member

    Bebe's is worse than Celio's. Why play 2-3? Play 1-4.
  10. Ardoptres

    Ardoptres New Member

    Lol, if he is THE best, then he should've gotten 1st this year.

    But whatever, I don't care.
  11. kaworu

    kaworu New Member

    Yamato is good, damn good but without corsola it's just a bit slow, Budew may help in it's place.

    Empoleon is just a great card, High hp, snipe for 40, and 3 for 70 and possible 20 to bench is too good, not to mention empoleon lvx.

    It just needs something to speed it up.
  12. pichu bros. rox

    pichu bros. rox New Member

    Luvdisc ftw?
  13. bonsly1994

    bonsly1994 New Member

    What should I take out and then what for NM?
  14. lolganium

    lolganium New Member

    of budew is so useless, use manyke, it searches for water, and mantine mt gives empoleon free reatreat

    oh, i just read corsella, his second attack owns, luvdisc cg? he gats basic's and damage's the opponent. just throwing idesa around
  15. homeofmew

    homeofmew Active Member

    I suggest Mawhile Instead
  16. lolganium

    lolganium New Member

    you're list is 62 cards long!

    -1 castaway
    -1 mentor
  17. Dark Weedle

    Dark Weedle New Member

    infernape was for scizor, you dont need it now
  18. rennan

    rennan New Member

    didnt have raichu delta?????? Oo
  19. bonsly1994

    bonsly1994 New Member

    thnx so far for all the help...
  20. kaworu

    kaworu New Member

    1 or 2 Rayquaza d to get rid of pesky weakness? You would have to run at least 2 holon energy WP too. Holon WP gets rid of effects from attacks which would also help.
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