Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

What will take down Gardevoir/Gallade decks?

Because it still needs to tech for Mag.

A good Plox will beat Banette most of the time.

Its amazing how everytime you open your mouth you prove you have no knowledge of this game whatsoever.
Plox is destroyed by Banette and by Magmortar, which is the reason why both were excellent deck choices for FL states, where Plox was first introduced. The makers of Plox, Team R, even stated that Banette and Magmortar give Plox a hard time in a conversation after the main event was done.

Just stop talking, by rambling when you have no idea what you are talking about, you are not only making yourself look foolish, you are also giving those foolish enough to listen to you false facts about the deck.
 
This whole Magmorter vs G&G thing is a bit funny. The match up changes based on which Magmorter your talking about and what techs G&G has. Blastoise d tech makes Mags a favorite and Dusknoir makes the matchup very close, but G&G has the advantage in swiss regardless. BTW, both Fulop and I played G&G with Furret at the very first city championships and soon after went to three Gardy and tech to match the metagame(I'm sure many others as well), so I doubt PLOX was invented by Team R at States. I know Blasty was the tech in the Florida winning deck -- that in fact does make Magmorter a favorite, but that one tech does not define PLOX.
 
Because it still needs to tech for Mag.

A good Plox will beat Banette most of the time.

What are you on about.... Banette owns Plox. See Banette can almost 100% of the time pull a 80 Turn 2. Or they can ghost head to kill your starter. Then you kill there very weak hp banette then they own your pokes. And Banette doesn't lose to everything... Unless you are saying every thing else is maggy. But Banette can still beat Maggy, they just have to get a bad start lol.
 
Its amazing how everytime you open your mouth you prove you have no knowledge of this game whatsoever.
Plox is destroyed by Banette and by Magmortar, which is the reason why both were excellent deck choices for FL states, where Plox was first introduced. The makers of Plox, Team R, even stated that Banette and Magmortar give Plox a hard time in a conversation after the main event was done.

Just stop talking, by rambling when you have no idea what you are talking about, you are not only making yourself look foolish, you are also giving those foolish enough to listen to you false facts about the deck.

Why do you have to criticize him? He did nothing to you, he did nothing to provoke you in any way. This thread is for people's personal opinions, and he stated his. There is no need for insults, as he does not have to back up his opinion.
 
Why do you have to criticize him? He did nothing to you, he did nothing to provoke you in any way. This thread is for people's personal opinions, and he stated his. There is no need for insults, as he does not have to back up his opinion.

Stating something as silly as "Plox beats Magmortar" is just... well... silly.
And as for not backing up his opinion, he isn't stating it as an opinion, that would have an "I think..." in there. He is stating it as a fact. Thus I am also stating facts.

The last time he was this adamant about something, it was Hurricane during BRs. I think we all know how that turned out, despite others trying to tell him to try something else. Then he tried to hype one of Jimmy's decks that he had absolutely no idea what was in when on a chat and on the gym. Now he is saying Plox beats Mag.

The first statement I gave is backed up by facts, it isnt an insult, it is backed up by past history, thus becomes cold hard fact. Your appology is accepted, your missguidance forgiven.
 
Because it still needs to tech for Mag.

A good Plox will beat Banette most of the time.

wow.
youre just kidding right?
thats bullcrap.
banette should beat PLOX just about every time.
unless ban gets a TERRIBLE start and PLOX gets a good one.
and the person playing banette is a baboon in a clown costume.
 
I've won Banette with both, my GG and Plox every time i've plaed against it. It isn't that hard because Banette trust to it's Claydol draw and Dusknoir can throw out his Banettes from Bench.
 
I just hate these decks.
I put together a Toxicroak, Muck, and Crobat Deck. (all Diamond/Pearl Series) (4/4/4 on all)
Standard base-4 rare candies(for the crobats) 2 Pheobe's Statium, Celios, ect...
Setting up is pretty quick, but I hate that teleportation and the psychic cut attacks.
Double the attacks of poision between turns due to crobat and toxicroak usually forces retreat, do to his pokepower. but I still get my butt handed to me on a silver platter because of weekness to psychic and not fighting.
I need a good way to poison (take out the muks) and put some thing that isn't week to psychic attacks.

PLOX doesn't lose to anything. It doesn't even have to lose to Bannette anymore. I hope this helps and good luck at regionals.
 
Banette won FL. The rest of your post dies with that.

I got GA and FL confused, either way 8 out of the 10 top players in those two states used PLOX. What does that fact have to do with the rest of my post. You seem awful rude.You are blaming people for being clueless and yet you make a blanket statement saying one deck beats another without so much as admitting the various factors that can alter the matchup. You claim anyone saying plox beats mags is silly, well you saying Mags beats plox is silly as well. Play test the match ups with various tech and time allowances and get back to me. If you are honest with yourself and the rest of the world - you will change your tune.
 
BlazeMags and PLOX are both great decks and both give each other problems of various sorts. I don't think that anyone can claim that either deck autowins the other at this point. Maybe regionals will prove me wrong but until we see the results and hear about any new builds / techs that really tilt the matchup in one or the other decks favor this looks too close to call to me.
 
I reckon that Gardevoir Varients have the slightly better match up for the simple fact that they can stop Maggy's powers.
 
Its amazing how everytime you open your mouth you prove you have no knowledge of this game whatsoever.
Plox is destroyed by Banette and by Magmortar, which is the reason why both were excellent deck choices for FL states, where Plox was first introduced. The makers of Plox, Team R, even stated that Banette and Magmortar give Plox a hard time in a conversation after the main event was done.

Just stop talking, by rambling when you have no idea what you are talking about, you are not only making yourself look foolish, you are also giving those foolish enough to listen to you false facts about the deck.

Ok... so I get an infraction for saying how someone types is annoying, but this is still here... :/

You come across as a very rude person who has NO experience with any of the decks that are being discussed here, and just want to sound smart.

I have spent literally HOURS of playtesting on these matchups, for states and now regionals.

Just the fact that you said that Magmortar destroys Plox makes your entire post worthless, as it proves how little you know about this matchup. :nonono:

What are you on about.... Banette owns Plox. See Banette can almost 100% of the time pull a 80 Turn 2. Or they can ghost head to kill your starter. Then you kill there very weak hp banette then they own your pokes. And Banette doesn't lose to everything... Unless you are saying every thing else is maggy. But Banette can still beat Maggy, they just have to get a bad start lol.

I have spent quite a lot of time on this matchup, and it's not anywhere near as bad for Plox as some ppl would have you believe. I have found it to be anywhere form 60/40 in Banettes favor to 60/40 in Ploxs favor, usually being around 50/50. It highly depends on if the Banette player can pull a donk or not. If not the match is going to be very close, and if the Plox is playing Dusknoir or Gatr its nothing short of a nightmare for the Banette player. I will admit that for the matchup to be close the Plox needs to be nothing short of a perfect list, and the player needs to be highly skilled with the deck.


Why do you have to criticize him? He did nothing to you, he did nothing to provoke you in any way. This thread is for people's personal opinions, and he stated his. There is no need for insults, as he does not have to back up his opinion.

Thanks for saying something.

Stating something as silly as "Plox beats Magmortar" is just... well... silly.
And as for not backing up his opinion, he isn't stating it as an opinion, that would have an "I think..." in there. He is stating it as a fact. Thus I am also stating facts.

The last time he was this adamant about something, it was Hurricane during BRs. I think we all know how that turned out, despite others trying to tell him to try something else. Then he tried to hype one of Jimmy's decks that he had absolutely no idea what was in when on a chat and on the gym. Now he is saying Plox beats Mag.

The first statement I gave is backed up by facts, it isnt an insult, it is backed up by past history, thus becomes cold hard fact. Your appology is accepted, your missguidance forgiven.


*sigh* you again....

You stating something as silly as Magmortar beats Plox is just silly. I have spent hours going over that matchup in particular and it is deffinitly NOT in Mags favor. I know several ppl who can back me up on that. By no means is it an easy matchup, but it is in Ploxes favor.

Now this is slightly off topic, but there a few things I feel need to be explained/cleared up.

About Hurricane. I really don't know what you ment by "we all know how that turned out" as Hurricane is now an archetype, and still a strong deck. It is one of the only decks that has survived through the yr, when more popular/more hyped decks like Blissy and DWD died out. It has done fairly well at States, being one of the t4 decks used. Ya, it dies to G&G, but so does EVERY OTHER DECK OUT THERE.

And as for Jimmys X2, yes I did know what it was, and I was helping with testing/trying to get it to work.

And yes Plox does beat Magmortar.

magmortar massacres plox. late-game plox maxes at 60 damage, which means mag X gets in 3 hits before it goes down.

It doesn't quite work out that way.
BTW a 1-0-1 Gatr tech fixes that problem of Plox only having a late game attack power of 60.


I got GA and FL confused, either way 8 out of the 10 top players in those two states used PLOX. What does that fact have to do with the rest of my post. You seem awful rude.You are blaming people for being clueless and yet you make a blanket statement saying one deck beats another without so much as admitting the various factors that can alter the matchup. You claim anyone saying plox beats mags is silly, well you saying Mags beats plox is silly as well. Play test the match ups with various tech and time allowances and get back to me. If you are honest with yourself and the rest of the world - you will change your tune.

I was hoping someone would say something like that. You are 100% right.

I reckon that Gardevoir Varients have the slightly better match up for the simple fact that they can stop Maggy's powers.

You got it. :thumb:
 
Ok... so I get an infraction for saying how someone types is annoying, but this is still here... :/

You come across as a very rude person who has NO experience with any of the decks that are being discussed here, and just want to sound smart.

I have play tested these decks endlessly on appr with LEGIT players, and have vast knowledge of the matchups. I am quite curious as to who you play, because no one in the Omar Chats (aka the people who MADE and PERFECTED the deck) will play you. I am not a rude person, I simply like to make the lives of completely ignorant pokemon players who would feed others false information a complete ****. So, you can either stop bieng such an arrogant PITA, or you can keep dealing with me over and over and over again.

I have spent literally HOURS of playtesting on these matchups, for states and now regionals.

The deck wasn't around before states. You also do not have the updated list (since no one in their right mind who has it would even comsider sending it to you), thus all your playtesting comes to nothing. You wasted your time, thank you for trying.

Just the fact that you said that Magmortar destroys Plox makes your entire post worthless, as it proves how little you know about this matchup. :nonono:

Wrong. Power Lock does nothing when you can power up anyway without it. It takes 3 shots to KO a Blaziken, during which time it can attack 2-3 times powering your Mag/other Blaziken up, and it takes 3 shots to kill a Mag if you keep healing it. If you break the Plox at any time, they will wipe you away as they flood the field with mass power and recovery. If you continue the Plox, you die. If you break the Plox, you die. Plox used to have a horrible matchup vs Mag, accept it, admit your wrongdoing and appologize, or keep dealing with me.

*sigh* you again....

Yes me, the joy in your post is overwelming

You stating something as silly as Magmortar beats Plox is just silly. I have spent hours going over that matchup in particular and it is deffinitly NOT in Mags favor. I know several ppl who can back me up on that. By no means is it an easy matchup, but it is in Ploxes favor.

Once again, who have you been testing against, and who the heck would give you a good Plox list? With the old list, Mag was a nightmare, you could NOT keep that thing down unless they got some kind of unholy start with 6 energy and 1 basic. You have no idea what you are talking about, I am glad some things never change.

Now this is slightly off topic, but there a few things I feel need to be explained/cleared up.

About Hurricane. I really don't know what you ment by "we all know how that turned out" as Hurricane is now an archetype, and still a strong deck. It is one of the only decks that has survived through the yr, when more popular/more hyped decks like Blissy and DWD died out. It has done fairly well at States, being one of the t4 decks used. Ya, it dies to G&G, but so does EVERY OTHER DECK OUT THERE.

Mag beats GG, Banette beats GG. Hurricane doesn't even beat a good Mag list (heck, even Fire Truk would be a pain for you), so the matchup you do good against is... Banette. Got it.
And I was refering to your non-stop hyping of your silly deck, and your arrogant replies such as "I am going to beat Eric Craig". You inflate your head, say completely idiotic things, and then get mad when you are proven to be wrong. Get over it, you have no idea what you are talking about, and until you learn that you DON'T have all the answers, you never will.

And as for Jimmys X2, yes I did know what it was, and I was helping with testing/trying to get it to work.

No, you didn't. I know several people who were in on the list, if you found out what it was, it was by accident.

And yes Plox does beat Magmortar.

No it doesn't

It doesn't quite work out that way.
BTW a 1-0-1 Gatr tech fixes that problem of Plox only having a late game attack power of 60.

Gatr slows the deck down to an unholy level. Plox needs to win early, thus it needs to setup fast. a 1-0-1 tech of Gatr is garbage, and 2-1-2 takes up alot of space and slows the deck down. Each one of these statements is backed by testing, real life experience, and personal online play as well.

I got GA and FL confused, either way 8 out of the 10 top players in those two states used PLOX. What does that fact have to do with the rest of my post. You seem awful rude.You are blaming people for being clueless and yet you make a blanket statement saying one deck beats another without so much as admitting the various factors that can alter the matchup. You claim anyone saying plox beats mags is silly, well you saying Mags beats plox is silly as well. Play test the match ups with various tech and time allowances and get back to me. If you are honest with yourself and the rest of the world - you will change your tune.

My appologize, I should have posted why it is a good matchup. read above, that is how it beats it.
And as for the rest of your post, it seems to be nothing but irrelevant insults and silliness not worth responding to, until the last part.
BOLD- Darthpike, please read the last sentance. Please do as he says. TY.
 
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