Platinum Shaymin Revealed!
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Tego
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Shaymin lv.X is a fun card, but like many people have mentioned here, it of course has tremendous problems VS Dialga lv.X.
Ok, so you move the Dialga X and then what?
Your Shaymin's Body will still be off, so your Pokémon will still have their regular HP, your Sceptile's Body will still be off, so all your attacks are still as expensive as always, and after your attack is done, your opponent will put just retreat or use Pokéturn (if he plays Dialga, he will be plaing Pokéturn).
I really don't get this "counter" at all.
Ok, so you move the Dialga X and then what?
Your Shaymin's Body will still be off, so your Pokémon will still have their regular HP, your Sceptile's Body will still be off, so all your attacks are still as expensive as always, and after your attack is done, your opponent will put just retreat or use Pokéturn (if he plays Dialga, he will be plaing Pokéturn).
I really don't get this "counter" at all.
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Absoltrainer
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Dialga G LV.X LV.X – Steel – HP120
Level-Up (SP)
Poke-Body: Time Crystallization
Each player's Pokemon (excluding SP-Pokemon) can't use any Poke-Bodies.
[M][M][C][C] Remove Lost: 80 damage. Flip a coin until you get tails, for each heads remove an Energy attached to the Defending Pokemon and put it in the Lost Zone.
Weakness: Fire (x2)
Resistance: Psychic (-20)
Retreat: 2
Diagla works on the bench.....so your ideas are pretty useless unless your opponet has 4 Pokemon and you use a suprise dusknoir or Diagla has insane amounts of damage on it already and you can KO it. But short of killing it, there are no counters out there besides not playing bodies
ShinySwampert
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Shuckle SW.
Blower/Restructure/Forest Murmur/Whatever Dialga to the Active position, Ferment Poison, KO it next turn with Torterra.
On top of that, Pokemon using special (upper) energy can't touch it.
The only factor to worry about is Unown G. That thing needs a ruling change.
Anyway, as someone in this thread already mentioned, Forest Murmurs can take care of Dialga G before it levels up. Unless they play 2 on the bench, you can see it coming, and stop them from getting it into play.
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Master_Whiscash_77
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Ampharos is a great counter to powers with something that spreads effectively, so I think any deck that relies heavily on powers (examples include LBS, MetaNite, Regigigas) will try to find room for it.
ShinySwampert
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lol @ LBS and MetaNite.
Ampharos is a good reason to tech it, if it becomes popular.
...wait for what? I'm still waiting....are you saying its hard to move Dialga Lv. X/Claydol to the bench??
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I agree.
PokePockets
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Still, you are now going to waste about 10 spaces for your 1-1 Dialga tech? alright then, more power to you.
I think if we find enough counters to this sucker that Grass decks will be TREMENDOUSLY huge, and they will be loads of fun to play, just watch out for Fire decks (unless you are playing LeafTile w/Umbreon)
I think if we find enough counters to this sucker that Grass decks will be TREMENDOUSLY huge, and they will be loads of fun to play, just watch out for Fire decks (unless you are playing LeafTile w/Umbreon)
ShinySwampert
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Two wasted attachments. He's no Heatran Lv. X, but that's wasted turns and resources.
Switch is almost never played unless you're using Palkia or Heatran. Most decks play up to 2 Warp Points.
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Hard enough. No one wants to attach 2 Energy to their Claydol and then expunge them. Dialga is a better attacker, despite it's pricey attack, but still, you want it benched.
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2 spaces, not 10.
ShinySwampert said:
#1-Switch is used very often, you don't always want to switch your opponent's active.
#2-Warp Point has a similar effect to switch....changing my active pokemon.
#3-It may be wasting resources, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do to win.
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That's true, no one wants to waste energy, but sometimes you have to, like I said above. I have honestly seen it happen, its not a horrible tactic because it gets that support pokemon back to where you want it.
Lastly, I understand how Zangoose can be used effectively, but there are a ton of other choices that do the same thing- Pokeblower+, Cradily LA, Palkia Lv. X, etc.. The reason as to why I don't feel that Zangoose is a good choice is that once you get the target pokemon active, your opponent gets a chance to mess up your plans before you can do anything.
You don't want to give your opponent a chance to change your plans, because if they can do that, then their plan is better.
It's not hard to get Dialga G Lv. X on the bench. There is a 50% chance with Level Max, and that's if you only have one in hand. With Claydol it shouldn't be that hard to do. Also, Switch, Warp Point, Magnizone (DP) are all decent ways of getting him on your bench. However, I don't think I would be too worried about it even if running Shayman because his pokebody isn't the only good part of the card. I think we should be more worried about the new Dialga that stops evolutions...
ShinySwampert
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Switch is almost exclusively used in decks where you don't want to change your opponent's active (i.e. Palkia Lv.X, poison decks), or when you have a Pokemon with an un-payable retreat cost (Heatran Lv.X).
Most people only play 2 Warp Points. And you have to draw into one.
Having Claydol active is often a problem. I imagine that Dialga would be similar.
Zangoose probably isn't the best Pokemon for the job, but my point is that Dialga G Lv.X is counterable, and most Grass decks will be prepared for it.
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lol
He isn't Fossil Aerodactyl.
He stops the Active from evolving. And only while he's Active. Easy to play around.
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