Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

2011 Season information

wiem0014 said:
How on Earth does this system change anything for you? You never had a chance for a ratings invite under Thr old system either.

This change will bring a lot of people out who love to complain just to complain. I think this is awesome that they are listening to the players. Two of biggest issues were making it more costly to drop (done) and the geographic advantage some have (this is addressed in the fact that only 6 BR and 5 CC's count)

Bravo to Pokemon.
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not true or at least not 100% correct.

In the UK and I expect elsewhere in Europe going undefeated at one of the biger K32 events either got you a rating invite or got you very close. The same would apply in the USA too. Of course going undefeated is a tall order in Europe/UK and even harder in the USA but it does happen and players do manage 11-0 streaks
 
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yoshi,ur lucky,im from europe aswell but its 48 hours+stop time to get to hawaii lol.
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Official Rules for Redeeming Travel Awards to the World Championships

This prize includes a Travel Award for the winner and a travel companion (if winner is under age 18) to the Pokémon Trading Card Game World Championships destination specified in the prize or event listing at www.pokemon.com. Travel award winners will be booked to arrive the day prior to the event check-in date, and will depart the day after the event has ended. Players who are deemed to have excessive estimated travel times may be granted an additional night in advance of the event, at the sole discretion of The Pokémon Company International, Inc.

maybe this applies for us european players?
should have written european players since we no longer have organized play due to _TPCi.lol
 
Yoshi- said:
Im from europe as you might be able to tell...

I kidna accepted that worlds will never be in europe but is having it on us mainland soo much to ask for? Maybe somewhere on the east coast? Where is OUR compromise? We also have a lot of players you know...

Hawai is 2500$ for maybe 2 weeks? 24 flight time + waiting time?

How is that fair? Even on us mainland we pay a lot more but if you combine it with a holiday trip its ok. But hawai? The most expensive/far away place you could choose?! Where is the point in winning points this season? I cant spend 2000€ for a 2 week holiday and even then I wouldnt, hawai is nice but not THAT nice. I see people discussion this point system but for me it doesnteven mattter. I ncant go...
And even if youre lucky enough to win the flight (which I was) youre there without your friends since they couldnt go... Im happy that a lot of things are changing right now and this is why Im hoping we wont return to hawai for worlds. Im aware those bookings are made 1-2 years earlier. And San Diego is kinda getting old as well. (on another note, maybe its just me but I kinda felt that san diego looked way more dirty and run down then 2 years ago?)


And on the regionals topic, I wish we could get at least 1 regional like official tournament. Im confident europe is big enough to deserve one. The ECC is great but private organizers can only go soo far.

Anyway, Im happy we see some change / to see something is happening and I really hope that europe at some point will benefit from this as well.
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I don't necessarily disagree, but that's what I've ended up being told, and it does suck for people in Europe, and I understand that, but unfortunately with it being a World championship it's difficult to please everyone, and it tends to be more of that since Japan has more dedicated players it's better to try and appease them...though I could be wrong.

Anyway San Diego did look slightly more run down, but then again I did stay up all night before Grinders there, so it could've just been sleep deprivation, who knows. :biggrin:
 
Rainbowgym said:
Perhaps I translate/read it wrong, but awarding points at Worlds sounds for me as "no auto invite for Worlds winners" anymore.
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Either that, or this marks the return of the Tropical Mega Battle, with invites awarded based on all your Championship points from September through August including Worlds ;D
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wiem0014 said:
How on Earth does this system change anything for you? You never had a chance for a ratings invite under Thr old system either.

This change will bring a lot of people out who love to complain just to complain. I think this is awesome that they are listening to the players. Two of biggest issues were making it more costly to drop (done) and the geographic advantage some have (this is addressed in the fact that only 6 BR and 5 CC's count)

Bravo to Pokemon.
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where are people getting the "6 BRs and 5 CCs" thing? the website says 8 BRs, right? I sure hope it's 6 BRs - that to me is a much better number.
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I'm very happy with the changes overall. I don't know another card company that has listened to their players as much as Pokemon.

I agree that the Cities and BRs points are out of line with the rest of the tournament series... Especially the Cities points. Cities are really no different than Battle Roads (except that they only happen at one time), so I think at most they should reward the winner with 3 points.

As discussed, S/P/Ts and Regionals are much larger events and should be slightly elevated (to 12-16 points for 1st place), in my opinion.

Either way, well done - I'm looking forward to a fresh new season!
 
So if I understand this new system, if you go to a Battle Road you earn 1 Play! Point and if you finish first, you earn 2 Championship Points. So you have 1 Play! Points and 2 Championship points. That's right?

What is the difference between these two different points? And when i will see my points, will it be the addition of Play! Points and Championship points or it will be separate?
 
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The new point system might lead to many more players dropping mid-Tournament. Under the old system, if a mid-tier player in a tournament saw that he would not make it into the elimination rounds, he would likely still complete the tournament, because the remaining Swiss rounds could still improve his ranking for each game won. But under the new system, if a player in a tournament sees that he will not make it into the elimination rounds, he might be more inclined to drop out, thinking "there's no point in continuing, because even if I win the remaining games it won't do me any good".
 
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The new system makes Battle Roads too competitive for newer players.
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I really don't get this logic.

Ok yes, higher-level players now have an incentive to attend Battle Roads than winning a promo card. So immediately this makes it so that new players can't participate in the event? How many City Championships have you been to where a new player shows up with out of date cards and ends up playing a theme deck? If anything the new system encourage higher attendance at events since these same high-level players will be there.

My first competitive event after I got back into the game was an Autumn Battle Roads. I played utter crap. Something with Typhlosion and Ampharos Prime if I remember correctly. My first game was against someone playing LuxChomp. He took me to town. I think the game lasted three turns. You know what? I really appreciated that match because it let me know what the metagame was like. it encouraged me to try harder and to look into the competitive world. We learn more from being beaten by good decks than we do from being beaten by mediocre decks.
 
It does say at
http://www.pokemon.com/us/organized-play/championship-series/
The Pokémon TCG U.S. National Championships is a sanctioned title event open to U.S. resident players who have earned the requisite amount of Play! Points.
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This is what is said about Play! Points
http://www.pokemon.com/us/news/op_2012_champ_series-2011-09-15
Players will earn Play! Points by simply attending qualifying Play! Pokémon events, with "destination events" earning you even more points. Play! Points will reward you for being an active Pokémon player—win or lose. Some special events each year will require Play! Points for entry.
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Which I interpret as meaning exactly what it says. There are no invitations required, and no Championship Points required to enter the National Championship. But a certain number of Play! Points (which you get for participating in tournaments, prereleases, league, etc.) ARE required. So that means a total newbie cannot go and play in the National Championship.
 
Invites to Nats would be a special thing to get, and I would bet that they'd be based on Play! points: You put in the time and effort to TRY to win, and you get to come to an amazing celebration of Pokemon! It's a wonderful reward for players. Scholarships for invites to World's would make it fairer for our Pokemon family members from other countries. I know some of y'all don't think they're that important, but as a mom of an 11 year old, it's how we justify to ourselves and, quite frankly, to the press, all the time we invest in it. Sure, we could save the money we spend traveling or buying cards and save more than 1000, but this is his accomplishment, and he's prouder of those few thousands of dollars than any medal he's won. Yes, a 1000 doesn't pay for many of college expenses, but it adds up over time, and it's a noble prize to win.

Anyway, we're just waiting to see the big picture. Until then, why worry and speculate. Go play Pokemon! Good luck at Battleroads, y'all!
 
Pikabruce said:
It does say at
http://www.pokemon.com/us/organized-play/championship-series/

This is what is said about Play! Points
http://www.pokemon.com/us/news/op_2012_champ_series-2011-09-15

Which I interpret as meaning exactly what it says. There are no invitations required, and no Championship Points required to enter the National Championship. But a certain number of Play! Points (which you get for participating in tournaments, prereleases, league, etc.) ARE required. So that means a total newbie cannot go and play in the National Championship.
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I see it as a way to stop parents from signing up for nats, getting the promos/shirts, and then dropping and having masters start an hour later because they had to repair everyone like what happened this year.

Overall, I like the changes and hopefully they get all the bugs out.
 
Pikabruce said:
It does say at
http://www.pokemon.com/us/organized-play/championship-series/

This is what is said about Play! Points
http://www.pokemon.com/us/news/op_2012_champ_series-2011-09-15

Which I interpret as meaning exactly what it says. There are no invitations required, and no Championship Points required to enter the National Championship. But a certain number of Play! Points (which you get for participating in tournaments, prereleases, league, etc.) ARE required. So that means a total newbie cannot go and play in the National Championship.
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Well that really screws over Tom Dozeal. That guy's famous for attending one tournament a year and making worlds. I guess they nipped that one.

BTW, does it bother anyone else that a nats win is only worth 14 points. It used to be a free invite for making top 8. Basically, the states/reg series is worth more with tournaments that are 10 times smaller. The other problem is that the kicker points do not give out enough points for really, really large tournaments. The system gives out points to 1/4 of the top finishing players, but when the cutoff is at 64 players, that means that they're predicting nats to be about 256 players. US nats usually has far over that amount. The guys who show up to US nats get screwed on points because if 800 players show up, over 100 of them aren't getting points for finishing in the top 1/4. It rewards smaller nats, but punishes larger, and therefore, more difficult national championships. It also looks like there's room at the bottom of the scale for more points, but unless it's official, anyone below top 64 isn't getting anything.
 
I hate this system. I awards the people who can travel to the most tournaments, not the best players.

ELO was better.

What about ELO, with bonuses added at the end of the season:
IE: BR +20.
City: +40 (1st)
etc...

Well, at least they listen.
 
Nationals should be an open tournament. This is EASILY the biggest travisty I have ever heard of in this game.

The on thing I can say is BR's the most unimportant tournament of the year now has a KEY role in everything. I always viewed BR's as a joke and a way to test new decks because there is no real gain/loss to it.

Here is an idea, lets get rid of BR's, introduce 3 more weeks of Cities. THEN, lets bring in 3 weeks of Gym Challenges with zero prizes with the exception of an Invite to worlds.
...That's what would make this system better.

Just out of curiosity, since we are basically mimicing the greatest trading card game in history(magic the gathering)
Are we ever going to see "Pro Circuit?"
I would love nothing more than the ability to make my living off Pokemon:p
 
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