King Piplup
Active Member
Sounds like the medals will come, it'll just be delayed. (Based upon my TO's statements to the winners today)
Cities Medals?
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How are you even going to start to compare olympic medals to pokemon city championship awards???
But regardless, yeah i'm with you. The medals are cool but not necessary. If you wanted to trade for my medal, i'd be down for it. And ppl collect ever card ever could be chalked up to an acute case of OCD, I personally don't care for collecting. I view this game strictly from a competitive playing standpoint. You're pulling at my heartstrings man, you can totally give your kid a memory, sit him/her down and say, "mijo/a, i won x tourney at this point in time".
Prodigiosus
New Member
Yeah, agreed. There's also a lot of variety on what people are saying: Only 1st gets medals, 1st to 3rd get medals, there are no medals at all, etc.
ogremarauder
New Member
I disagree. The only time they don't HAVE to do something is when they state they are doing nothing. If a reward is stated as part of a prize, then it is sloppy buisiness practice to change things up without notice. They should have had these prizes done well in advance of the actual events.
I get that, but what I'm sayin is as a whole they don't have to give us anything. They do, and then ppl start complaining when they don't have my medal, why don't they give us this promo, this card sucks ban it, where's my scholarship, put more of x cards into print because i can't pull any. My general feeling is that pokemon players are spoiled, be grateful that we get anything. Some of ya'll remind me of the kids at league who just expect to get a promo for no reason. When did it become, give me this! over, may I have this please?
SmeargleMe
New Member
Do they have to give us tournaments? No. But it's a form of marketing that drives the purchasing of more cards by the player demographics. While we're a smaller segment of their card buying market, we probably spend much more per person than the average purchaser in the big box stores. I doubt it's a segment they want to lose.
And players expect certain things not because they're spoiled, it's because the Pokemon company set the precedent. They're the ones who set the prizes the previous years and as a result people are expecting the same thing year after year. People spend a certain amount on cards and expect to get the same winnings as last year. It's like going to a restaurant that always gave away free desserts and coffee with your dinner, but this time they just gave you the check. Wouldn't you ask where your dessert is? Better communications on a number of fronts would help set expectations and reduce the number of gripes threads.
And players expect certain things not because they're spoiled, it's because the Pokemon company set the precedent. They're the ones who set the prizes the previous years and as a result people are expecting the same thing year after year. People spend a certain amount on cards and expect to get the same winnings as last year. It's like going to a restaurant that always gave away free desserts and coffee with your dinner, but this time they just gave you the check. Wouldn't you ask where your dessert is? Better communications on a number of fronts would help set expectations and reduce the number of gripes threads.
losjackal
Technical Administrator
Honestly, yes. My son is a Junior, and I have a picture of him on the wall behind me from winning Nationals, standing right next to BlisseyRocks, wearing a medal. The picture would be much less impactful if they didn't have medals around their necks.
Last year was my son's first full year competing, and he as 4 City, 1 State, 1 Regional, and 1 National...all first place, blue ribbon medals. The boxes of cards are appreciated, the scholarship money is helpful, but these medals are cherished.
SmeargleMe
New Member
No. They set the pattern and created a Pavlovian conditioning of "every time you win, you get this prize and if you come back (after buying more packs) and win again, you'll get the same prize". Taking a mile would be asking for more than they were offering in previous years. We're just asking for the same or at least some communication confirming if there is or isn't the same prize.
You're right, they don't need to do anything for us. However, I'm complaining because I care about the game and its growth. If any competitive event (sports, cards, etc.) is to be successful then they need to run their event as professionally as possible, and part of that professionalism is having the award at the event. What other championship in ANY event, even little league sports (since I guess the Olympics don't count for some reason :/...) can you think of that doesn't have its championship award waiting for the champion at the event? I can't think of any. Not having the medal makes the pokemon organization look slack, and as someone who cares about pokemon, I'M NOT OK WITH THAT. This is not to imply that you don't care about pokemon, it's just that this is an area where I find myself more concerned than other areas.
And yes, I want a medal to be able wear it, show it off, remind myself that I won a tournament, and feel good about all the hours of playtesting I have put in with my teammates. That's kind of the point of a medal after all. . . Not to be rude, but that part should have been fairly obvious. And at the moment, besides some packs, an "atta boy" is about all we get for Cities.
Final point, there's no harm in discussing these issues. I know this isn't the case, but your plea to stop complaining and defense of pokemon makes it sound like they're going to cancel all tournaments forever if we talk about it
. I know that's not what you think, because that would be irrational, but there really are no negative repercussions to talking about this issue, so I just don't see why some people get defensive about it. Hopefully, through discussing these issues, we can get somewhere Tylertyphlosion
New Member
Medals are always nice to have.
I have dozens of medals from pole vaulting and wrestling. Every time I set down and go through them I am reminded of what I had to do to achieve those chunks of metal and the memories I made receiving them. When I'm older, I can sit down and tell my kids, "Back in my day, I was a top athlete and I was able to be State Runner-up in Pole Vaulting." Yeah, that's all fine and dandy, but giving my kid that medal would mean a lot to me and them. I know the little things my dad has given me over the years from his past mean a lot to me.
I'd like to add a bunch of Pokemon medals to that collection, so I would really like to get one for my wins.
We aren't asking for a lot, we are just asking for what has been expected in the past.
I have dozens of medals from pole vaulting and wrestling. Every time I set down and go through them I am reminded of what I had to do to achieve those chunks of metal and the memories I made receiving them. When I'm older, I can sit down and tell my kids, "Back in my day, I was a top athlete and I was able to be State Runner-up in Pole Vaulting." Yeah, that's all fine and dandy, but giving my kid that medal would mean a lot to me and them. I know the little things my dad has given me over the years from his past mean a lot to me.
I'd like to add a bunch of Pokemon medals to that collection, so I would really like to get one for my wins.
We aren't asking for a lot, we are just asking for what has been expected in the past.
supertyranitar
New Member
The more posts I see about someone telling everyone else to stop complaining, the more inclined I am to actually complain. It's getting to the point of ridiculousness with some of the changes that are occurring this year, and for TPCi to not have the winner's prizes given to the PTOs, forcing the PTOs to have to get information that would otherwise be unnecessary is ludicrous. It'd be fine if this was a one time thing, but they're consistently doing these types of things, as we saw with the medals of States and Regionals last year.
And, at this point, we don't even know what the actual prize is for first place (someone feel free to correct me on this), as we've not seen anything about the actual first place prize by them. For a company like TPCi, who's been around for 8 years, they should be able to have processes in place by now. Instead, we're left with players not getting things in a timely manner, while they seem to struggle to pump out things necessary in time.
And, at this point, we don't even know what the actual prize is for first place (someone feel free to correct me on this), as we've not seen anything about the actual first place prize by them. For a company like TPCi, who's been around for 8 years, they should be able to have processes in place by now. Instead, we're left with players not getting things in a timely manner, while they seem to struggle to pump out things necessary in time.
assuming the statements upthread about customs difficulties or new regulations/laws in place regarding shipment of metal objects or lead testing are correct...how in the world can *any* of that be considered the fault of TPCi?
custom medals like the ones awarded previously are just that, CUSTOM...and require several months of leadtime. i'd guess there is a whole labyrinth of internal approval to go through before the CUSTOM order can be placed with the manufacturer. there would then be the time required to approve the prototype, then to manufacture and ship the medals to TPCi's warehouse, and then ship them to the TOs...
so if somewhere along that timeline laws or regulations change, what is TPCi to do other than start over even if it means the medals will be late? it's not like they can wave a magic wand and make the medals appear...
jmho
'mom
custom medals like the ones awarded previously are just that, CUSTOM...and require several months of leadtime. i'd guess there is a whole labyrinth of internal approval to go through before the CUSTOM order can be placed with the manufacturer. there would then be the time required to approve the prototype, then to manufacture and ship the medals to TPCi's warehouse, and then ship them to the TOs...
so if somewhere along that timeline laws or regulations change, what is TPCi to do other than start over even if it means the medals will be late? it's not like they can wave a magic wand and make the medals appear...
jmho
'mom
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JimboPro
New Member
I agree completely with your statement and your point is said perfectly...
I think the problem is that there has been no announcement or any comfirmation that these stories are true, this discussion would end if Pokemon would just release a statement saying why they are not here and that we are in fact getting them in due time.
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vanderbilt_grad
New Member
And I would repeat what tinox6 said above ... this is not the first time. It's starting to look more like a trend than a set of 1 offs, especially since there has been no communication.
I get that OP would probably be bashed reglardless of what they do by some, but the communication to the players has been ... lacking ... and that's the nicest word I could think of ... for a long time now.
OP these days feels like it's being run by the seat of someone's pants. I keep wishing that it seemed more professional.
Then I wonder why a lot of Pokemon Players that have played for such a long time, moved to other card games. First off Rotation, rule changes, and now the lack of medals to those who have worked hard in this game. Without any communcation to the players. What is next to happen that will cause more people to leave? I hope this gets resolved soon because it makes it rather hard to encourage those who have left to come back.
The concept of free ia humorous. The prize suppirt is not free. Its like this: I go out and drop a lot of money on cards, go to cities and win, I get a medal. Pokemon has been giving out medals for a while now. The next year rolls around, I've spent hundreds more on cards and with no notice, decide not to give me a medal this year when I win. So, I get less product for the same money, and yet, I'm complaining about not getting "free" stuff? Maybe we need to actually define the word free. See the second law of thermodynamics.
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