mightymetagross
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Yes well done pokemon i lost a battle road just because of sabldonk
Early Rotation announced: HGSS-on as of July 1st!
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AyameHikaru
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I love that movie. :biggrin:
I think this is completely awesome. We got this announcement literally at league, IN THE MIDDLE of announcing to our group that we wanted to start playing our league tourneys HGSS-on. Excellent timing.
I am sad that there are a lot of Pokemon now that won't have a legal card, but hopefully the set after Red Collection will start filling in the gaps. (For instance, we have a legal Blastoise, but no Venusaur or Charizard. No 3rd gen starters legal, Torterra but no Infernape or Empoleon, and above all no Glaceon!!!)
Wicked Hunter
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yeah! Finally woo woot! lol
Charlie Sheen
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YES. WiNNING!!!!!!
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dialga master
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Its amazing how many people thanked the post.
Trading a format with donks for a format with mulligans and stalling out is not really so great. They might improve it, but right now HS-On is a fairly tepid format. I wonder how many of the people celebrating creativity are just going to play nearly cookie cutter Emboar/Reshiram/Magnezone/Zekrom/et cetera?
I'll take that bet.
The right decision has been made. A format change is long overdue.
neophenx
Member
Yes! Now my Zek/Resh deck might stand up a bit better since I don't have to worry about rediculous t-1 damage drops. It was hard getting 3 of them out for my starting hand, and Sabledonk could STILL pull off the 260 damage on t-1 to KO 2 of them after a Seeker. (at least, in theory it could, though it would be quite a stretch.)
Soujiro Elric
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Meta decks are going to exist disregarding the format. The difference of this format with MD-on is that creativity will be much more rewarding and the deck variety will be greater. Now you can build a rogue deck knowing you won't always lose.
sebastianlugo
Member
Really nice, no more unskilled player win by donk
This is the most welcome news that I could have heard! It opens up the game to new decks, new combos and above all else! No more SP, Take Outs via Machamp, Gyrados and all the other busted cards in the Platinum block. Today is a day to celebrate! Now I wonder if this weekends battleroads will have more HGSS decks than none?
now unskilled players can win with cookie cutter emboar/reshiram or zekrom, with the two months they had to prepare for those being obvious top decks
Meta decks are going to exist, and are still going to crush the inferior decks. I just like how so many people are crowing about the change and are going to flock right to the meta decks, and I would say that about 50% of the people rejoicing would do this...I feel like a lot of people just are going along with the exuberance because other people are. I agree that it was fun building my HS-on deck (Zoroark/Yanmega/Ampharos Prime). I also had just as much fun experimenting with Gyarados in the past, trying to get Regirock/Magnezone to win a states (made top 8), and playing Vilechamp and improving it in battle roads. Easy donks were a problem, but a two card ban would have left a format better than one that stalls out and has terrible deck draw through. I know people are touchy about the ban discussion, so maybe I should rephrase that I feel like we left one bad format for another bad format. Besides, in RR-On, the three cards people have the biggest problem with would be gone. Too much trainer lock might not have necessarily been healthy, but I think it would have been a very good format even with extant donk possibilities for most top flight decks.
There is not much creativity that can be had with an Emboar/Reshiram deck, by the way...the deck list is too tight to allow for much genius. I agree people will be able to dream up plenty of combinations of pokemon partners, but a donk format also actually allowed for this same type of experimentation.
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@wilyfungi-I see plenty of room for rogue decks this format. Plenty of decks can beat the meta decks right now. Your problem is that you cannot think of them. Not that they don't exist. There will be rogue decks. You just can't wait for someone else to make them for you with nationals being the next tournament.
I posted the deck I was using because I knew someone would try to claim I just "am not thinking of anything". You cannot just say that someone dislikes a format because they want to copy a list. I listed substantial thoughts and you are dismissing them with a catch all that I already preempted. My point about creativity was that despite the unassailable exuberance people have over this rotation, several have/are already flocking to Zekrom and Reshiram, and due to the limited nature of the T/S/S pool, those lists cannot vary by too much. This is a very limited format in which two pokemon with huge attack penalties are still the runaway winners.
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