Dendrobatida
New Member
Yeah, I know, DCI sanctioned team play is SOOO last month, but I've been wondering this for awhile now, so I thought I'd ask and see what happens.
Riptide:
does 10 damage plus 10 damage times the number of (w) energy cards in your discard pile. Then, shuffle all (w) energy cards from your discard pile into your deck.
Given the wording here, chock full of youry goodness, I was wondering what sorts of combinations would be possible here. Is this possible?:
Player A, playin' Gatr, chooses for the first your (to complete the effects of the first sentence) his/her own discard pile where there are, say, six water energy. He does 70 damage. To fulfill the necessity of the second your, he/she chooses the water energy in his/her teammate's discard to shuffle back into his/her teammate's deck. Teammate is playing support fighting, or something, and thus shuffles diddly squat. Repeat ad nauseum.
This seems pretty wicked powerful to me, and I'm wondering why I haven't seen it utilized before. Perhaps the second "your" must be targetted to the same place as the first "your"? I'd understand that, except for the nagging "Mary factor".
Mary:
Draw 2 cards. Then, shuffle 2 cards from your hand into your deck.
This I've seen in action at both Gen-Con and Origins, and it was ruled each time to force the player of the card to draw the 2 cards. The shuffle in, however, could be done by either player. The wording of Mary echoes that of Riptide closely, except for that extra "your" in the first sentence of Riptide. Perhaps it boils down to the effect of the word "Then" in the card. This indicates that the two effects are not concurrent, they're sequential, which makes me wonder...hence the question.
I've asked folks in the pojo chatrooms, and have had varying opinions. I'm honestly not sure, so I figured I'd ask all y'all. Thoughts?
(Just envisioning 2 decks, one a speedy gatr, the other a support with parasect. Both have 4 juggler, etc.)
Riptide:
does 10 damage plus 10 damage times the number of (w) energy cards in your discard pile. Then, shuffle all (w) energy cards from your discard pile into your deck.
Given the wording here, chock full of youry goodness, I was wondering what sorts of combinations would be possible here. Is this possible?:
Player A, playin' Gatr, chooses for the first your (to complete the effects of the first sentence) his/her own discard pile where there are, say, six water energy. He does 70 damage. To fulfill the necessity of the second your, he/she chooses the water energy in his/her teammate's discard to shuffle back into his/her teammate's deck. Teammate is playing support fighting, or something, and thus shuffles diddly squat. Repeat ad nauseum.
This seems pretty wicked powerful to me, and I'm wondering why I haven't seen it utilized before. Perhaps the second "your" must be targetted to the same place as the first "your"? I'd understand that, except for the nagging "Mary factor".
Mary:
Draw 2 cards. Then, shuffle 2 cards from your hand into your deck.
This I've seen in action at both Gen-Con and Origins, and it was ruled each time to force the player of the card to draw the 2 cards. The shuffle in, however, could be done by either player. The wording of Mary echoes that of Riptide closely, except for that extra "your" in the first sentence of Riptide. Perhaps it boils down to the effect of the word "Then" in the card. This indicates that the two effects are not concurrent, they're sequential, which makes me wonder...hence the question.
I've asked folks in the pojo chatrooms, and have had varying opinions. I'm honestly not sure, so I figured I'd ask all y'all. Thoughts?
(Just envisioning 2 decks, one a speedy gatr, the other a support with parasect. Both have 4 juggler, etc.)