Interracial Couple Denied Marriage License

[Rogue Archetype]

I can't even begin to to say how much I resent this inflammatory, derogatory, and stereotypical statement.

I grew up and have lived in "the deep south" my entire life. Are you saying that I am inherently racist? Or that I was obviously raised to be one? And we don't "rear" our children. We raise them. Rearing is what is done when tending livestock and other farm animals. I'm sure you can make plenty of other jokes here, but refrain as I am very insulted by your statement and jokes wouldn't be very appropriate.

How dare you! You should truly be ashamed! It is those types of generalized statements which lead to illogical, irreverent personal views such as racism in the first place!

That's a really, really ignorant thing to say, and I'm expecting an apology. I don't know where in the south you lived, but never make absolutist statements like that, or else you will have some very, very poor dialogue and feedback from guys like me, who live in the deep south, yet were most certainly not "reared in a society that places a HEAVY emphasis on race seperation" [sic].

I will also apologize for offending you and anyone else that read that statement the way you have. I was trying to explain HOW a judge could do such a thing.
My intention is NOT to bash an entire geographical region of the United States !!

Obviously, there's a misunderstanding.

TO CLARIFY:

I did NOT just say that EVERYONE IN THE SOUTH is a racist.

I'll invite you to go back and read everything I said in context and try to understand that it was not my intention to say this.

RE-EDITED to ensure it's Pokegym safe :thumb:

 

[Cyrus]

Duly noted, but just remember next time that when trying to convey "Certain areas of the United States are more nurturing of racism," say something more along those lines, and not what you did say!

Race is always a touchy subject these days, even though it really has no true meaning beyond minor differences in skin pigment.

 

[ryanvergel]

It's note JUST pigment. I'm definitely the tallest person in my family, and it's most likely because I'm white while they are Filipino. At 6'0'' many of my aunts are a solid foot shorter than me, and my dad is at least 6 inches shorter than me. There aren't too many Filipinos with curly hair, and I have pretty wavy hair.

We all came from Africa. Some of us just lost pigment because we moved up north or out east. It's all pretty trivial. We all bleed red, and that's the color that really matters.

 

[Rogue Archetype]

hey... Cyrus...

UNQUOTE that please. I've re-drafted that and don't want that version on screen.

What I NEED TO DO is proofread more often before hitting submit buttons!!!

 

[Cyrus]

It's note JUST pigment. I'm definitely the tallest person in my family, and it's most likely because I'm white while they are Filipino. At 6'0'' many of my aunts are a solid foot shorter than me, and my dad is at least 6 inches shorter than me. There aren't too many Filipinos with curly hair, and I have pretty wavy hair.

We all came from Africa. Some of us just lost pigment because we moved up north or out east. It's all pretty trivial. We all bleed red, and that's the color that really matters.

Yeah, you're right- I was just trying to emphasize that race is something that shouldn't matter, but unfortunately does.

It's the person that counts - not the shell.

 

[homeofmew]

just get another person to marry the couple, but that's pretty stupid.
anyone who knows Joe and me, we are different races and you just cant stop 2 people from being together if they love each ohter.

 

[StarrySora]

My dad is exactly the same way (except he can't give marriage licenses or anything like that). He told me that I'm only allowed to marry and date white people (I don't think he cares about gender as long as they're white, it could be another chick for all he cared. He's banned black men definitely, probably because he's not too fond of Obama or something, but whatever). He told me that I needed to think about the children who I would bring into this world and the consequences of my actions because I couldn't keep my legs closed or something. First of all, I'm 21 and he has absolutely no say in who I date and marry unless he's planning on throwing me out because of it. I'm tolerant of others and if I wanna marry someone of a different race he can stay away from the wedding...we aren't close anyway, who said I wanted him at my wedding? It's this type of thing that makes me stray away from my father even more and we've never had a close relationship. When and if I do get married, he'll probably cut me off from his life, but you know, that's his problem, and if he wants to be a bigot, let him. People like that really should be smacked in the head. You know, I hope I do marry someone of a different race and have a family with them, not only to spite him, but to prove him wrong. As long as they aren't abusive, I'm going to marry the person I fall in love with.

 

[PuRpLe]

I feel that the "we must think about the children and the hardship they'll go through" line is straight bologna and an excuse that they find convienient to use because it may be negative but it's also supposed to be positive @ the same time. So if you say they're racist they can fire back "no I'm unselfish and thinking about the kids!" :tongue:

Anyway if it's possible through nature to have kids with someone of another race I don't see why people still think it's so wrong. None of us are bigger than nature [or God, whichever you believe] so who's to say that's wrong? Racists don't have to get over it but ACCEPT it folks, it's 2009. :wink:

But in this case..... ACCEPT IT AND DO YOUR JOB SIR!

 

[baby mario]

Does this person refuse to marry poor people, or people who have a history cheating, or people who have committed a crime, or people who have some kind of illness or disability? Cos their kids might suffer hardship too.

If not, then it is pretty clear what this person is.

 

[Nobodys]

Does this person refuse to marry poor people, or people who have a history cheating, or people who have committed a crime, or people who have some kind of illness or disability? Cos their kids might suffer hardship too.

Even that would be pretty discriminatory... Everyone's kids are going to suffer hardship. That's life. Suffering is part of what makes us human. But I get your point - a interracial kid wouldn't be worse off than any of those things (actually better off than a majority of those things). I'm just saying that to counter the 'think of the children' lne.

He told me that I'm only allowed to marry and date white people (I don't think he cares about gender as long as they're white, it could be another chick for all he cared. He's banned black men definitely, probably because he's not too fond of Obama or something, but whatever). He told me that I needed to think about the children who I would bring into this world and the consequences of my actions because I couldn't keep my legs closed or something.

Wow, umm... no offense or anything but ur dad sounds like a jerk. Maybe it's time to move out? lol Anyways I'm living proof a interracial marriages DOES work just as good as any - if not the better for learning more about the dynamics of different cultures.

Still, not a good thing to marry or date a guy just to piss off ur dad alone (tho it would be a nice added bonus). I've known people to date someone just to make someone else mad and it pretty much ended up messy... I don't think u were saying that u would tho...

 

[StarrySora]

Yeah I know I should move out, but since the job market here is non-existent and I can't find a job I'm SOL until someone will actually hire me. I've put in tons of applications, but not one person has even called me for an interview. Anyway, yes I know not to date someone just to tick them off, that would just be the added bonus. Yeah I know my dad is a jerk, I've known this for many years now. I just won't get into all the things he's done. Anyway, refusing to marry someone because they wish to marry someone of a different race is wrong and needs to be stopped. We're never going to get anywhere if we keep to ourselves, ignoring and hating people who are different than us.

 

[r3skyline]

Yeah I know I should move out, but since the job market here is non-existent and I can't find a job I'm SOL until someone will actually hire me. I've put in tons of applications, but not one person has even called me for an interview.

wow, how old are you?

here's some advice. NEVER wait for the employer to call you. YOU call THEM. it shows that you want the job.

i know this because i used to be a hiring manager, and in the class (you have to take classes to move up to mgr "rank"), they said that the ones who call the store are the ones who get priority because it shows that you take initiative, and arent lazy.

 

[StarrySora]

wow, how old are you?

here's some advice. NEVER wait for the employer to call you. YOU call THEM. it shows that you want the job.

i know this because i used to be a hiring manager, and in the class (you have to take classes to move up to mgr "rank"), they said that the ones who call the store are the ones who get priority because it shows that you take initiative, and arent lazy.

There are some jobs that dislike it when you call about the status of your application. Ross Dress for Less is one of those stores. I worked there and tried to get a transfer, they "lost" my transfer status and continue to ignore me whenever I re-apply like I was told to. My last assistant manager told me that those who bug her about the status of their application won't get hired and she will take care of it when she's good and ready...probably why she's still assistant manager. I've applied at places close to me since I can't drive and no one will take me anywhere (and I have a fear of buses). Target sends me the "We're not interested, stop applying here because we're never going to hire you" thank you notes. I really need to learn how to drive, but TBPH I'm scared to death of driving here. Pretty much no one is hiring here, and I really need the job so I can attempt to go to college. Anyway we're getting off-topic.

 

[Nobodys]

I heard too sum jobs hate it when you call in bug them. Some job listings even say DON'T CALL! In big capital letters. So I dunno, I think it depends on the company hiring and unfortunately we're not mind readers

StarrySora - I hope things get better for you down the line. My wife and I had to live with her parents for a few months early this year and it was nooooot fun I know. The sucky job market sucks even harder for us early 20 - mid 20's people cuz all the CEO's that got laid off are taking our jobs lol. Solution to your problem: win nats or worlds, net a huge scholarship and go to college



But yeah off topic... um... racism... it sucks! Yah...

 

[r3skyline]

Solution to your problem: win nats or worlds, net a huge scholarship and go to college



.

maybe we should talk about this in another thread soon as it is the "random" forum, and it is a prefectly fine discussion as most of are in college/off to adulthood..

how come you dont just get a loan? its what i did, yes you do have to pay it all off in the end, but its really worth it.

was able to obtain my first degree off of a loan and paid it all off within the year.

now i have to go back to school for a diff career tho. going to be a doctor now. computer science (pc programmer) is not all its cracked up to be. (i was a game/Intel programmer. not the company, but military).




^^where do you live that the driving is horrid? korea? japan? somewhere overseas? i know those places are bad from first hand experience so i can say those places. lol.

but if its in america, trust me, its not as bad as seoul. xD

best way i learned how to drive was by playing the game live for speed. it simulates driving/racing perfectly. but you need a g25 wheel for it to function properly. PC only.

now that was off topic (the last one. haha).

 

[Nobodys]

How come you get to be the last one to post off topic? No fair!

*looks around apprehensively for thread lock*

 

[toxictaipan]

*Facepalm* :nonono:

 

[Phazon Elite]

For those interested, I made a thread about job hunting here.

/carry on

 

[homeofmew]

My dad is exactly the same way (except he can't give marriage licenses or anything like that). He told me that I'm only allowed to marry and date white people (I don't think he cares about gender as long as they're white, it could be another chick for all he cared. He's banned black men definitely, probably because he's not too fond of Obama or something, but whatever).

I don't like Obama either, but your dad is racist :/
So you can date any black guys, that's ridiculous.

I am very culturally "white" I was Adopted by white people and was raised as their own.
My Dad recently told me that he'd always expected me to marry an Asian because I am Asian.
Race doesn't really matter to me at all.


BTW I am Asian Engaged to a White guy
I really can't help being born Asian ~

 

[ninetales1234]

There is something crucial missing from the article.

The fact that this official blocked a marriage is not the problem.
The fact that there is a system in place for government marriage licenses is the problem.

Should these people be allowed to get married? Whatever, I don't care what they do. The real problem is that government licenses marriages.