ryanvergel
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Sandslash7 said:
It's like a .1% chance of that happening. And a 1% of prizing 2 of your 3 shiftry LM, so I really don't think those ridiculously low chance scenarios warrant the use of the card. Sorry.
Island Hermit...Why aren't you playing it?
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It's like a .1% chance of that happening. And a 1% of prizing 2 of your 3 shiftry LM, so I really don't think those ridiculously low chance scenarios warrant the use of the card. Sorry.
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I'm just saying, it helps out...
Though I do prefer TVR to it.
Though I do prefer TVR to it.
Does it really matter? Play it, and if you like it, keep playing it. If not, trash it. Too many people in this game conform to whatever the "popular" thing is. You don't need to have every single card just like the world champions to win. Playing the game well will get you much further than any nitpicking on why Island Hermit is inferior to Mary's Request. I've seen people play Masterball in decks. Celio's and Researcher in some cases are much better ideas if you want pokemon, but Masterball has a quality to it that Celios and Researcher doesn't, and it works more often than not.
Play it or don't, choose a side and leave it at that.
Play it or don't, choose a side and leave it at that.
ryanvergel
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Prime said:
MasterBall is a lot more playable than IH. It's a non-supporter (unlike celio's or researcher or elm), and can get non-basics (which great ball cannot). It's usable in some decks, whereas IH is usable in maybe <5% of decks (and that's pushing it).
Papi/Manny
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Umm, your opponent gets to see a card (unless mary's), and it can be assumed you'll discard a card you play 3+ of, so the opponet knows 1/20th of your deck off of 1 card. IH shows 2 cards, but unless you know the deck (in either case, showing cards won't hurt yoU), you won't know the lines/whatever the card is and so it will only help you. And you also get to look at 2 cards, making your prize selection easier and more beneifitcal. You need to remeber, you controll your side of the field, so the opponet knowing 2 cards isn't as good as you being able to use those 2 cards later on in the game. At Ryan: You can play IH in any deck. Of course, some decks need discard and the such, but IH can be teched into any deck because it works differently then any other draw out right now.jkwarrior said:
Muk Man
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ryanvergel said:
actually..."if you have 6 prizes
flip 2
if the 2 you flip are not the card you need. you now have a 25% (1/4) cahnce of getting the prize you need
with out hermit you only have a 16% (1/6).
They way i look at it, is that you have a 58% chance of getting the prize you need with hermit.
First you have a 33% chance that you will flip it over with hermit (2/6=1/3), if you dont you now have a 25%(1/4) chance of drawing it that gives you 2 seperate chances...33+25= 58% chance of getting the card you want /need (+/- your luck factor)
And thats only 1 hermit.....now add a second. or what if you ko an ex...???
"Men lie, women lie, but numbers dont lie" Jay Z
ryanvergel
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Muk Man said:
Um, what does that have to do with what I said?
There is a .1% chance of even HAVING 3 of them prized, and a 1% chance of having 2 prized. What I said had NO correlation to the chances of choosing a prized Shiftry. Do you even know what you're talking about?
Muk Man said:
well I don't really like it....
1: I rather play Field Worker because i can draw more.
2: its a supporter....and by draw 2 cards don;t really do much in the match.
its good to being able to see your prize, but sometimes after seeing your prize, you just lose hope to play. imagine all of your key cards is in your prize.....
Actually numbers do lie. If anybody cares to know: 58% is not the right number. If there are 6 prizes left and it's a Tuesday, then by removing 2 cards, you have 4 left, so you take the square root, invert it, and the answer is .5. No contour integration is even necessary.Muk Man said:
jkwarrior said:
I have to say that is true to a point. I keep coming up with situations where I have 1 supporter to play and don't want to discard a card. That is before or after I play a draw card that requires a discard. Seeing that I either have to discard a stadium that would get rid of one hurting me, an energy that I need, a different type of supporter like PETM, or a pokemon I need. I get this all the time. Tell me then what is the best play? If I plan on playing a PETM or similiar card next turn that means my card that is drawn at the beginning of the next turn might not be a help. So because I used a card that nets me the same as Holon Adventurer or TVR then it is inferior because I go through less cards? I don't mind if someone sees what is in my prizes. As another person stated either it is known that I have the card prized or I have multiples and probably already played one or if a pokemon played the basic of it. I know someone who has not played much but has had little difficulty when he has. He does not play the Holon Engine and has no trouble with draw. IH has helped him decide on his prize draw greatly.
P_A said:
agreed, no need to flame guys
personally, my deck doesn't like this card at all. some decks can utilize(all but mine really) but still, i think its a good card and run it in another of my decks. but for my favorite deck, it just doesn't cut it.
but 2 cards(tails on cosmos) and the added effect of seeing prizes... not to shabby imo.
Papi/Manny
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I'm pretty sure hes not referring to what your talking about. Hes saying that you'll know whats in your prizes, not that you'll get 3 of a card prized every game. You have 6 prizes, so you'll get 6 cards out of your deck that you need to take. Knowing 2 of them gives you better choices later in the game.ryanvergel said:
Drawing 2 is that much worst then drawing 3? Again, its not life changing (Usually, I find myself having large hands later in the game, because I drew massive cards early game with things like casty and copy cat, so IH is good for a deck that runs casty for start later in the game, for example). And if all your key cards are prized, how will not knowing where they are ever be of importence to knowing where they are? Its nearly impossible to prevent the opponet from taking a prize, unless the matchup is just that one-sided (but then again, if you can draw 15 cards in a turn, would it really make a difference? Probly not). Therefore, if you know what a few/all of your prizes are, you stand a good chance to A) Recover from a bad start, B) Get out cards you need to win, or C) Recover from bad prizes. 3 cards>2, but knowledge>luck.
Adam Garcia
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yay for supporter bill
Papi/Manny
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Wasn't the exact same thing said about tv reporter before?Adam Garcia said:
PSYCO829
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if you play a pokemon * or a card you only have one of and cant afford it to be prixed, you have your card
looking at your prizes is useful, it gives you intel
the bad thing is, it gives your opponent intel as well
i like the card, i just dont have a deck it would be worth playing it in
looking at your prizes is useful, it gives you intel
the bad thing is, it gives your opponent intel as well
i like the card, i just dont have a deck it would be worth playing it in
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