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Legendary Treasures

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Indeed. Although they are giving us what appears to be the XY Beginning sets at the same time so who knows? Maybe synced sets are still a possibility?

Legendary Treasures should be a massive set. Likely to include Battle Boost, Shiny Collection, Mewtwo and Genesect decks, Everyone's Exciting Battles set and leftover promos. I also added a few trainers that are due for reprints and Max Potion (only in a legal set as an ultra rare at the moment) to my speculative set list.

Here is what I am expecting:

Legendary Treasures Set List:
001 Tangela
002 Tangela
003 Tangrowth
004 Tangrowth
005 Shuckle
006 Cherubi
007 Carnivine
008 Shaymin
009 Snivy
010 Snivy
011 Servine
012 Servine
013 Serperior
014 Serperior
015 Sewaddle
016 Sewaddle
017 Swadloon
018 Levanny
019 Maractus
020 Dweeble
021 Crustle
022 Deerling
023 Virizion
024 Virizion
025 Genesect
026 Charmander
027 Charmeleon
028 Charizard
029 Vulpix
030 Ninetales
031 Growlithe
032 Magmar
033 Magmortar
034 Moltres
035 Torchic
036 Victini
037 Victini
038 Victini-EX
039 Tepig
040 Pignite
041 Emboar
042 Heatmor
043 Larvesta
044 Reshiram
045 Reshiram-EX
046 Magikarp
047 Magikarp
048 Gyarados
049 Articuno
050 Marill
051 Azumaril
052 Piplup
053 Piplup
054 Prinplup
055 Empoleon
056 Phione
057 Oshawott
058 Dewott
059 Samurott
060 Tympole
061 Palpitoad
062 Seismitoad
063 Frillish
064 Alomomola
065 Kyurem
066 Kyurem-EX
067 Keldeo
068 Keldeo-EX
069 Pikachu
070 Pikachu
071 Electabuzz
072 Electivire
073 Zapdos
074 Plusle
075 Minun
076 Emolga
077 Stunfisk
078 Thundurus
079 Thundurus
080 Zekrom
081 Zekrom-EX
082 Mewtwo
083 Mewtwo-EX
084 Natu
085 Xatu
086 Misdreavus
087 Mismagius
088 Ralts
089 Ralts
090 Kirlia
091 Kirlia
092 Gardevoir
093 Sableye
094 Croagunk
095 Toxicroak
096 Victini
097 Woobat
098 Swoobat
099 Sigilyph
100 Sigilyph
101 Trubbish
102 Garbodor
103 Gothita
104 Gothita
105 Gothita
106 Gothorita
107 Gothorita
108 Gothitelle
109 Gothitelle
110 Solosis
111 Solosis
112 Duosion
113 Reuniclus
114 Chandelure-EX
115 Meloetta
116 Meloetta
117 Meloetta-EX
118 Riolu
119 Riolu
120 Lucario
121 Lucario
122 Gallade
123 Throh
124 Excadrill-EX
125 Stunfisk
126 Stunfisk
127 Gollett
128 Terrakion
129 Terrakion
130 Landorus
131 Meloetta
132 Spiritomb
133 Darkrai-EX
134 Purrloin
135 Sandile
136 Scraggy
137 Scrafty
138 Zorua
139 Zorua
140 Zoroark
141 Zoroark
142 Aron
143 Lairon
144 Aggron
145 Durant
146 Cobalion
147 Cobalion
148 Altaria
149 Rayquaza
150 Gible
151 Gabite
152 Garchomp
153 Deino
154 Zwelious
155 Hydreigon
156 Black Kyurem-EX
157 White Kyurem-EX
158 Eevee
159 Teddiursa
160 Ursaring
161 Lugia-EX
162 Swablu
163 Audino
164 Minccino
165 Minccino
166 Cinccino
167 Cinccino
168 Druddigon
169 Bouffalant
170 Tornadus
171 Tornadus-EX
172 Bianca
173 Cedric Juniper
174 Cheren
175 Elesa
176 Energy Switch
177 Fennel's Help
178 Max Potion
179 N
180 Plus Power
181 Pokemon Communication
182 Professor Oak's Meeting
183 Random Reciever
184 Shadow Triad
185 Super Scoop Up
186 Shaymin-EX
187 Reshiram
188 Pikachu
189 Emolga
190 Mew-EX
191 Meloetta-EX
192 Shadow Triad
193 Reshiram
194 Zekrom
 
Widdi said:
Indeed. Although they are giving us what appears to be the XY Beginning sets at the same time so who knows? Maybe synced sets are still a possibility?

Legendary Treasures should be a massive set. Likely to include Battle Boost, Shiny Collection, Mewtwo and Genesect decks, Everyone's Exciting Battles set and leftover promos. I also added a few trainers that are due for reprints and Max Potion (only in a legal set as an ultra rare at the moment) to my speculative set list.

Here is what I am expecting
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Some immediate problems with your setlist, other than the extremely large size.

046 Magikarp and 047 Magikarp are the same card, just two different artworks
166 Cinccino and 167 Cinccino are the same card, two different artworks
192 Shadow Triad doesn't exist. It was fake news that spread around the internet
 
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Out of that list provided, which cards are NXD-on Modified legal? Also, which cards aren't reprints at all?
 
I seriously doubt they are going to reprint all of the EX cards that Battle Boost did. It just doesn't make sense when all of those previous sets will still be in rotation and reprinting their EX cards with the same artwork and stuff would kind of kill their sales. Also between the new EX cards, the gold Reshiram and Zekrom, and the chase cards from Shiny Collection, they'll have enough bling factor.

Battle Boost without the EX reprints and Japanese-specific chase cards i.e. Imakuni/Pokemon Enterprise is 85 cards. The new cards from the Mewtwo/Genesect Deck are another 16. Everyone's Exciting Battle is 42. Shiny Collection is 25. A 168 card set would be welcome by me, but a more realistic number is probably around 150, and we have to keep in mind that we're due for a bunch more BW Promos and they could stick some cards as exclusive to the Shiny Genesect package that's coming out.


Out of that list provided, which cards are NXD-on Modified legal?
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NV Virizion (due to the PB reprint)
BCX Charmander, Charmeleon, Charizard
ND Moltres
DEX Torchic
BW Reshiram (due to the ND reprint)
ND Articuno
NV Kyurem (due to the BW44 reprint)
ND Pikachu
ND Zapdos
DEX Plusle and Minun
DRX Emolga
EP Thundurus (due to the BW41 reprint)
BW Zekrom (due to the ND reprint)
BCX Croagunk, Toxicroak
DRX Sigilyph
DRX Trubbish, Garbodor
BCX Meloetta
ND Riolu, Lucario
DRX Stunfisk
NV Terrakion (due to the BCX reprint)
NV Landorus (due to the BW43 reprint)
BCX Purrloin
DEX Zorua 69 (Ascension), Zoroark
All Dragon-type cards
DEX Eevee 83 (Surprise Attack)
ND Minccino, Cinccino
EP Tornadus (due to the BW42 reprint)

As well as all of the EX cards, obviously, if they make the English set. Most of the other cards are new but extremely unplayable. Some are BW-NV reprints like item lock Gothitelle, NV Cobalion, etc.
 
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So that comes to, what, about 44 cards that would be pointless to reprint? I'll knock that down a bit by saying that the Legends will stick in this set, of which there are 12. I'll say the set would be 168-32=136. That feels a bit big, honestly. Even the 124 without including Legends feels a bit big to me...
 
Keep in mind that all the reprints included could be preparation for a future rotation: most likely, Boundaries Crossed-on. Those 44 cards wouldn't be pointless, persay, just a future preparation.
 
And they all have new artwork, which makes them appealing to collectors. Since I doubt this set is going to have a lot of player's appeal -- as there's not a lot of Trainers left to translate -- unless they do repeat the EX cards and make them much more common than in previous sets.
 
Maverick Nate said:
Keep in mind that all the reprints included could be preparation for a future rotation: most likely, Boundaries Crossed-on. Those 44 cards wouldn't be pointless, persay, just a future preparation.
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There moving back to BW-on next years format. Think we have entered the era of no Rotations (maybe), they're just trying something new, or delaying for more X/Y cards before moving to X/Y on.
 
Bilbo Baggins said:
There moving back to BW-on next years format.
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Technically they aren't. Modified will continue to exist (NXD-on, DRX-on, XY-on, whatever), and the BW-on that's coming for 2014/2015 is an extra format akin to MTG's Extended format. Modified and "Extended" will both exist at the same time.
 
I hate seeing unconfirmed details being reported as fact.

All that we know for next year is that the BW-NV cards will be involved somehow.

We don't know exactly how they are going to be involved.

The prevailing theory is Extended. And, honestly, I think that's what's going to happen.

But there are other potential theories, some more likely than others.
 
I could have sworn in was confirmed that BW-on would be a secondary format along side Modified. I swear the original announcement said that. Let's check. . .

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Ok, done. The announcement said:

Starting in late 2014, a new TCG format will be joining the familiar Modified format as a legal option for sanctioned Pokémon events of all sizes.
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The bolded part confirms to me that we will have 2 different formats. In other words, Extended.
 
i think that Juniper's Dad (EX Battle Boost 93) looks like a fun card to have, of course charen is much more stable, for one thing you dont need a pokemon in your hand to draw three cards, for another you dont have to worry about your oponint knowing the height listedon the pokemon you put down but its still a fun card to have in your deck.
 
Personally I wish they'd skip this set and move the world onto XY instead. The bulk of them are reprints and ones that aren't are hardly groundbreaking or must haves. The sooner the giant basic EX format is (hopefully) over, the better to me.
 
Dr. Mason said:
Best thing in the set will be gold Zekrom

I'll sell my soul for it
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I suggest working on your usage of hyperbole; I can't tell if you think the card is worth eternal condemnation (or slavery - trying to think of various views on the matter) or because you actually don't believe in souls at all so you think the card is worth imaginary currency. XD
 
If they are going to have a lot of EX cards in this set I'd think it's only fair that the pull rates should be better. EX Battle Boost averaged 5 normal EX per box with little variation, while the japanese sets normally have 3-4 ultra rares per box of 24 boosters. Making more ultra rares while keeping the same pull rate is just a cheap way of milking money from the consumer and it makes the set harder to collect. I don't remember there being many full arts or ace specs in EX Battle Boost though. IMO if the number of full arts is the same as normal EX cards then the pull rate should be the same. It should be proportional to the number of those types of cards in the set. I'm OK with the secret rare system since they are beyond the set, but if the Gold Unova Dragons are part of the set as normal ultra rares (not secret rares) with the same low pull rate as in japanese sets then I won't be collecting this set. It would make sense for them to be secret rares given the rarity. I prefer sets like the Black and White base set and the Diamond/Pearl/Platinum sets where ultra rare cards were very few and as a result you got an average of just 2 in a box. Secret rares were few as well, nothing riduculous like the 3+ they've had recently. Those sets are just that bit easier to collect as a result and people aren't always scrambling for the ultra rares. Better more consistent pull rates would be great for the last set in the BW era.

I don't mind reprints but I can see why some people would be against them. If they mix in a few new cards in a torrent of reprints then I can understand how annoying it would be. I think Mew FA from Shiny Collection may be in this set since there's a promo blister with a Mew promo being released with this set, similar to the Genesect promo with Plasma Blast. I'm slightly annoyed that Chandelure EX and Excadrill EX are basic pokemon, they could have had them evolve like the old-school EXs, but I get that they'd be underpowered if they had to evolve. I wonder if this set will break the record for the largest pokemon card set to date, with all the reprints and cards the West still hasn't got and what not.
 
Aquapolis and Skyridge had 186 and 182 cards, respectively. They'd have to give us literally everything from BW we haven't received in English yet for Legendary Treasures to beat those.

Aren't the sell sheets or first preview cards out by now? I'd like to so much to get some confirmation about the set's size but everything's still quiet.
 
The sheets are available but they don't have any relevant information. We are waiting for a press company or Pokemon.com to show a few cards of Legendary Treasures.
 
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