New Mulligan Rule???

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  1. Big Daddy Snorlax

    Big Daddy Snorlax Administrator

    What's this I hear about a change in the Mulligan Rule with the release of the EX:Sandstorm rule book? Didn't I hear that some of you had theme decks already .... :D
     
  2. TheCrossFormatKid

    TheCrossFormatKid New Member

    The new mulligan rule states that both players declare mulligans at the same time. If both players have no basic pokemon, they both shuffle their hands into their decks and draw 7 cards. They continue to do this until atleast one player has a basic pokemon. If only one person mulligans, they shuffle their hand into their deck and draw 7 cards, then their opponant has the option of drawing up to ONE card(instead of the old 2) That basically covers it
     
  3. NoPoke

    NoPoke New Member

    I have a vague memory that it was like this in the early days of wotc too.

    To avoid any attempt at cheating I would expect both players to play a basic face down.

    I'm guessing that the reason that it was changed to player one muligans first was an attempt to offset the considerable advantage of going first. Under Nintendo rules first player doesn't draw a card on their first turn. Wich evens things up somewhat.

    The change is detailed on team Compedium's site ;)
     
    Last edited: Sep 12, 2003
  4. evil eyeball

    evil eyeball New Member

    Yeah many card games feature the Play Draw rule


    Decide to play first or draw first

    im suprised at why pokemon still mulligans up you wiuld think that the player who mulliganed wiould draw 1 less not his opponent 1 more

    (i used to play this game and i allways found that funny)
     
  5. ScythKing

    ScythKing Member

    Rules?

    Too bad there isn't an online version of the rules I could print up. Or is there?
     
  6. Prof. Douglas Zuver

    Prof. Douglas Zuver New Member

    The big change is that you only get to draw one card
    if your opponent Mulligans.

    The Pokemon Rule Books that come in the Theme Decks
    have always differed from the Pokemon Tournament Rules
    on the point of Player One resolving Mulligans first,
    so until we see the new Pokemon USA Tournament Rules,
    we don't know whether anything else has changed or not.
     
  7. Prof. Douglas Zuver

    Prof. Douglas Zuver New Member

    This is taken from the area of the Rule Book that says
    What's New in the Pokemon-e TCG EX Ruby and Sapphire Expansion:

    The new Nintendo Rules are in the Ruby Sapphire Rulebook:
    Here is Doug's edited version copied out of the Rule Book:​


    When an opponent defeats a Pokemon-ex they take two prizes instead
    of one. Pokemon-ex cannot evolve into normal stage one or two Pokemon that
    are not Pokemon-ex.

    When you start the game without Basic Pokemon in your hand, show your
    hand to your opponent, shuffle it back into your deck, and draw 7 new cards.
    Your opponent can then choose to draw an extra card.

    When you start a new game, the player who goes first skips his or her first
    draw card step.

    The special condition Confusion now only affects a Confused Pokemon when
    it attacks. As it attacks, flip a coin as usual, but on tails, the Confused Pokemon
    receives 3 damage counters, instead of the previous 20 damage.
    Confused Pokemon can now retreat normally.

    Retreating your Active Pokemon is now an action that can only be done once
    per turn.

    Darkness and Metal Energy are now easier to play. They still count as special
    energy, giving their special effects only to Pokemon of the matching type. As
    they give effects strictly to those Pokemon, the other drawbacks to those
    energy types have been removed.

    Players are now limited to playing one Stadium card per turn.
     
  8. mysterioustrainer

    mysterioustrainer New Member

    There is no change in the Sandstorm rulebook about the Mulligan it is just the same as the Ruby and Sapphire rulebook.
     
  9. Prof. Douglas Zuver

    Prof. Douglas Zuver New Member

    Wait a minute...
    I just looked at the Sandstorm Rule Book.

    What's New in the Pokemon-e TCG: EX Sandstorm Expansion?
    Paragraph 3:

    "New kinds of Fossil Pokemon evolve from special Trainer cards, such as
    Claw Fossil. These Trainer cards act exactly like Basic Pokemon cards,
    once they are in play. In addition, if you start a game without a Basic
    Pokemon in your hand, but have any number of Fossil Trainer cards,
    you have the choice of whether or not to shuffle your hand back into
    your deck, and draw 7 new cards. (If you choose to re-draw a hand
    of 7 cards, your opponent still chooses whether or not to draw an
    extra card.)"
     
  10. Big Daddy Snorlax

    Big Daddy Snorlax Administrator

    WE HAVE A WINNER!!! :thumb:

    To bad there are no prizes associated with this win. :(

    BDS :lol:
     
  11. Prof. Douglas Zuver

    Prof. Douglas Zuver New Member

    (Slightly off topic, but for ScythKing and other people)
    By the way, Darkness Energy has moved in the topic: How do you figure out damage? It is now at step number "B" before weakness... If your Darkness Pokemon doesn't do any Damage in an attack then each Darkness Energy does 10 damage anyway, because it is figured in with the base damage.

    There is actually a Sandstorm Pokemon that can take advantage of
    this... Maybe I shouldn't have said that yet...

    2 on 2 battles have moved back to Appendix A:
    thereby avoiding confusion with the regular rules.

    Sandstorm "Baby" Pokemon have changed,
    and regular Pokemon can Evolve into EX type Pokemon.

    Thanks -- That is most of the changes I see...
    Back to New Mulligan Rule???
     
  12. NoPoke

    NoPoke New Member

    WOW the Fossil Trainer card being playable as a basic while in your hand is new. Throws away old Wotc rule book!

    Presumably this ability is just during the resolution of Muligans rather than extending throughout the game.

    ....goes to retrieve Wotc rule book before Espeon gets it ...

    [Of course I'm feeling slightly miffed as we dont have sandstorm over here yet ;) *boo hoo* but I do have some dehydrated water tablets somewhere that you could use as prizes]
     
  13. duanojo

    duanojo New Member

    I thought that Darkness and Metal were considered basic energy, that it was just the cards that were special. Hence, Rainbow or Crystal energy can serve as Darkness or Metal, they just wouldn't have the additional powers of the real cards.

    Am I wrong on this?
     
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  14. Prime

    Prime Content Developer<br>Blog Admin<br>Contest Host

    Well Dark and Metal are considered special energy cards because you can only have four of each in a deck.
     
  15. PokePop

    PokePop Administrator

    no, you are right.
     
  16. Prof. Douglas Zuver

    Prof. Douglas Zuver New Member

    They finally rewrote the text of Rainbow Energy in Aquapolis here it is:
    Energy card R 144/147

    Rainbow Energy

    ID: C-60-#

    Special Energy Card

    Attach Rainbow Energy to 1 of your Pokémon. While in play, Rainbow Energy provides every type of Energy but provides only 1 Energy at a time. (Doesn’t count as a basic Energy card when not in play.) When you attach this card from your hand to 1 of your Pokémon, put 1 damage counter on that Pokémon.
    ..........................
    Notice the new text does definately allow you to use Rainbow Energy
    as Darkness or Metal. (It was always this way, but now it is clearer)

    Special Energies have names on them and writing on them.
    Basic Energies don't have anything but the word ENERGY at the top.
    Basic Energies are Fire, Fighting, Grass Water, Psychic, and Lighting.
    All the rest are special Energies.

    ....................................................
    Energy card U 146/147

    Crystal Energy

    ID: D-53-#

    Special Energy Card

    Crystal Energy provides 1 Energy of all types (colors) of basic Energy cards attached to the Pokémon Crystal Energy is attached to.

    If there are no basic Energy cards attached to the Pokémon Crystal Energy is attached to, Crystal Energy provides {C} Energy.
    .............................................

    Notice that Crystal Energy can only copy Basic Energy.
    Basic Energies are Fire, Fighting, Grass Water, Psychic, and Lighting.
     
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  17. RainbowRichards

    RainbowRichards Active Member

    I believe so. The cards state specifically (Doesn’t count as a basic Energy card.)


    Rainbow Energy (Special Energy Card) [from R&S set]

    Attach Rainbow Energy to 1 of your Pokemon. While in play, Rainbow Energy provides every type of energy but provides only 1 energy at a time. (Doesn't count as a basic Energy card when not in play.) When you attach this card from your hand to 1 of your Pokemon, put 1 damage counter on that Pokemon.

    (95/109) [spoiler courtesy pokeschool.com]



    Rainbow = every type of energy
    Crystal = every type of attached basic energy

    [sorry - I see the Professor posted while I was writing mine...]
     
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  18. Kyfogre22

    Kyfogre22 New Member

    Err, Rainbow Energy is in the Rocket set...
     
  19. dkates

    dkates New Member

    Yes, but it's been reprinted -- in Aquapolis, for one.
     
  20. Sensei

    Sensei Team Compendium Emeritus Staff Member Trader Feedback Mod

    You slacker!I was going to post this last night and you asked me to wait...
    :mad:

    `Sensei
     
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