What's this I hear about a change in the Mulligan Rule with the release of the EX:Sandstorm rule book? Didn't I hear that some of you had theme decks already .... 
New Mulligan Rule???
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TheCrossFormatKid
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The new mulligan rule states that both players declare mulligans at the same time. If both players have no basic pokemon, they both shuffle their hands into their decks and draw 7 cards. They continue to do this until atleast one player has a basic pokemon. If only one person mulligans, they shuffle their hand into their deck and draw 7 cards, then their opponant has the option of drawing up to ONE card(instead of the old 2) That basically covers it
NoPoke
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I have a vague memory that it was like this in the early days of wotc too.
To avoid any attempt at cheating I would expect both players to play a basic face down.
I'm guessing that the reason that it was changed to player one muligans first was an attempt to offset the considerable advantage of going first. Under Nintendo rules first player doesn't draw a card on their first turn. Wich evens things up somewhat.
The change is detailed on team Compedium's site
To avoid any attempt at cheating I would expect both players to play a basic face down.
I'm guessing that the reason that it was changed to player one muligans first was an attempt to offset the considerable advantage of going first. Under Nintendo rules first player doesn't draw a card on their first turn. Wich evens things up somewhat.
The change is detailed on team Compedium's site
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evil eyeball
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Yeah many card games feature the Play Draw rule
Decide to play first or draw first
im suprised at why pokemon still mulligans up you wiuld think that the player who mulliganed wiould draw 1 less not his opponent 1 more
(i used to play this game and i allways found that funny)
Decide to play first or draw first
im suprised at why pokemon still mulligans up you wiuld think that the player who mulliganed wiould draw 1 less not his opponent 1 more
(i used to play this game and i allways found that funny)
Prof. Douglas Zuver
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The big change is that you only get to draw one card
if your opponent Mulligans.
The Pokemon Rule Books that come in the Theme Decks
have always differed from the Pokemon Tournament Rules
on the point of Player One resolving Mulligans first,
so until we see the new Pokemon USA Tournament Rules,
we don't know whether anything else has changed or not.
if your opponent Mulligans.
The Pokemon Rule Books that come in the Theme Decks
have always differed from the Pokemon Tournament Rules
on the point of Player One resolving Mulligans first,
so until we see the new Pokemon USA Tournament Rules,
we don't know whether anything else has changed or not.
Prof. Douglas Zuver
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This is taken from the area of the Rule Book that says
What's New in the Pokemon-e TCG EX Ruby and Sapphire Expansion:
What's New in the Pokemon-e TCG EX Ruby and Sapphire Expansion:
The new Nintendo Rules are in the Ruby Sapphire Rulebook:
Here is Doug's edited version copied out of the Rule Book:
When an opponent defeats a Pokemon-ex they take two prizes instead
of one. Pokemon-ex cannot evolve into normal stage one or two Pokemon that
are not Pokemon-ex.
When you start the game without Basic Pokemon in your hand, show your
hand to your opponent, shuffle it back into your deck, and draw 7 new cards.
Your opponent can then choose to draw an extra card.
When you start a new game, the player who goes first skips his or her first
draw card step.
The special condition Confusion now only affects a Confused Pokemon when
it attacks. As it attacks, flip a coin as usual, but on tails, the Confused Pokemon
receives 3 damage counters, instead of the previous 20 damage.
Confused Pokemon can now retreat normally.
Retreating your Active Pokemon is now an action that can only be done once
per turn.
Darkness and Metal Energy are now easier to play. They still count as special
energy, giving their special effects only to Pokemon of the matching type. As
they give effects strictly to those Pokemon, the other drawbacks to those
energy types have been removed.
Players are now limited to playing one Stadium card per turn.
of one. Pokemon-ex cannot evolve into normal stage one or two Pokemon that
are not Pokemon-ex.
When you start the game without Basic Pokemon in your hand, show your
hand to your opponent, shuffle it back into your deck, and draw 7 new cards.
Your opponent can then choose to draw an extra card.
When you start a new game, the player who goes first skips his or her first
draw card step.
The special condition Confusion now only affects a Confused Pokemon when
it attacks. As it attacks, flip a coin as usual, but on tails, the Confused Pokemon
receives 3 damage counters, instead of the previous 20 damage.
Confused Pokemon can now retreat normally.
Retreating your Active Pokemon is now an action that can only be done once
per turn.
Darkness and Metal Energy are now easier to play. They still count as special
energy, giving their special effects only to Pokemon of the matching type. As
they give effects strictly to those Pokemon, the other drawbacks to those
energy types have been removed.
Players are now limited to playing one Stadium card per turn.
mysterioustrainer
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There is no change in the Sandstorm rulebook about the Mulligan it is just the same as the Ruby and Sapphire rulebook.
Prof. Douglas Zuver
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Wait a minute...
I just looked at the Sandstorm Rule Book.
What's New in the Pokemon-e TCG: EX Sandstorm Expansion?
Paragraph 3:
"New kinds of Fossil Pokemon evolve from special Trainer cards, such as
Claw Fossil. These Trainer cards act exactly like Basic Pokemon cards,
once they are in play. In addition, if you start a game without a Basic
Pokemon in your hand, but have any number of Fossil Trainer cards,
you have the choice of whether or not to shuffle your hand back into
your deck, and draw 7 new cards. (If you choose to re-draw a hand
of 7 cards, your opponent still chooses whether or not to draw an
extra card.)"
I just looked at the Sandstorm Rule Book.
What's New in the Pokemon-e TCG: EX Sandstorm Expansion?
Paragraph 3:
"New kinds of Fossil Pokemon evolve from special Trainer cards, such as
Claw Fossil. These Trainer cards act exactly like Basic Pokemon cards,
once they are in play. In addition, if you start a game without a Basic
Pokemon in your hand, but have any number of Fossil Trainer cards,
you have the choice of whether or not to shuffle your hand back into
your deck, and draw 7 new cards. (If you choose to re-draw a hand
of 7 cards, your opponent still chooses whether or not to draw an
extra card.)"
WE HAVE A WINNER!!! :thumb:
To bad there are no prizes associated with this win.
BDS :lol:
To bad there are no prizes associated with this win.
BDS :lol:
Prof. Douglas Zuver
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(Slightly off topic, but for ScythKing and other people)
By the way, Darkness Energy has moved in the topic: How do you figure out damage? It is now at step number "B" before weakness... If your Darkness Pokemon doesn't do any Damage in an attack then each Darkness Energy does 10 damage anyway, because it is figured in with the base damage.
There is actually a Sandstorm Pokemon that can take advantage of
this... Maybe I shouldn't have said that yet...
2 on 2 battles have moved back to Appendix A:
thereby avoiding confusion with the regular rules.
Sandstorm "Baby" Pokemon have changed,
and regular Pokemon can Evolve into EX type Pokemon.
Thanks -- That is most of the changes I see...
Back to New Mulligan Rule???
By the way, Darkness Energy has moved in the topic: How do you figure out damage? It is now at step number "B" before weakness... If your Darkness Pokemon doesn't do any Damage in an attack then each Darkness Energy does 10 damage anyway, because it is figured in with the base damage.
There is actually a Sandstorm Pokemon that can take advantage of
this... Maybe I shouldn't have said that yet...
2 on 2 battles have moved back to Appendix A:
thereby avoiding confusion with the regular rules.
Sandstorm "Baby" Pokemon have changed,
and regular Pokemon can Evolve into EX type Pokemon.
Thanks -- That is most of the changes I see...
Back to New Mulligan Rule???
NoPoke
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WOW the Fossil Trainer card being playable as a basic while in your hand is new. Throws away old Wotc rule book!
Presumably this ability is just during the resolution of Muligans rather than extending throughout the game.
....goes to retrieve Wotc rule book before Espeon gets it ...
[Of course I'm feeling slightly miffed as we dont have sandstorm over here yet *boo hoo* but I do have some dehydrated water tablets somewhere that you could use as prizes]
Presumably this ability is just during the resolution of Muligans rather than extending throughout the game.
....goes to retrieve Wotc rule book before Espeon gets it ...
[Of course I'm feeling slightly miffed as we dont have sandstorm over here yet
*boo hoo* but I do have some dehydrated water tablets somewhere that you could use as prizes]Prof. Douglas Zuver said:
I thought that Darkness and Metal were considered basic energy, that it was just the cards that were special. Hence, Rainbow or Crystal energy can serve as Darkness or Metal, they just wouldn't have the additional powers of the real cards.
Am I wrong on this?
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Prof. Douglas Zuver
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They finally rewrote the text of Rainbow Energy in Aquapolis here it is:duanojo said:
Energy card R 144/147
Rainbow Energy
ID: C-60-#
Special Energy Card
Attach Rainbow Energy to 1 of your Pokémon. While in play, Rainbow Energy provides every type of Energy but provides only 1 Energy at a time. (Doesn’t count as a basic Energy card when not in play.) When you attach this card from your hand to 1 of your Pokémon, put 1 damage counter on that Pokémon.
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Notice the new text does definately allow you to use Rainbow Energy
as Darkness or Metal. (It was always this way, but now it is clearer)
Special Energies have names on them and writing on them.
Basic Energies don't have anything but the word ENERGY at the top.
Basic Energies are Fire, Fighting, Grass Water, Psychic, and Lighting.
All the rest are special Energies.
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Energy card U 146/147
Crystal Energy
ID: D-53-#
Special Energy Card
Crystal Energy provides 1 Energy of all types (colors) of basic Energy cards attached to the Pokémon Crystal Energy is attached to.
If there are no basic Energy cards attached to the Pokémon Crystal Energy is attached to, Crystal Energy provides {C} Energy.
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Notice that Crystal Energy can only copy Basic Energy.
Basic Energies are Fire, Fighting, Grass Water, Psychic, and Lighting.
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RainbowRichards
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duanojo said:
I believe so. The cards state specifically (Doesn’t count as a basic Energy card.)
Rainbow Energy (Special Energy Card) [from R&S set]
Attach Rainbow Energy to 1 of your Pokemon. While in play, Rainbow Energy provides every type of energy but provides only 1 energy at a time. (Doesn't count as a basic Energy card when not in play.) When you attach this card from your hand to 1 of your Pokemon, put 1 damage counter on that Pokemon.
(95/109) [spoiler courtesy pokeschool.com]
Rainbow = every type of energy
Crystal = every type of attached basic energy
[sorry - I see the Professor posted while I was writing mine...]
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Big Daddy Snorlax said:What's this I hear about a change in the Mulligan Rule with the release of the EX:Sandstorm rule book? Didn't I hear that some of you had theme decks already ....
You slacker!I was going to post this last night and you asked me to wait...
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