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Season 4+Season 5= waste IMO
thanks for nothing, unless the steelix is the prime but still special energies as league promos?
What a joke.
The tomb+Azelf+E-belt good, e-belt i have 10 of so useless to me but w/e cool though.
 
Season 4+Season 5= waste IMO
thanks for nothing, unless the steelix is the prime but still special energies as league promos?
What a joke.
The tomb+Azelf+E-belt good, e-belt i have 10 of so useless to me but w/e cool though.

at the end of the day its still stuff they are giving you for free that they don't have to give you. i mean sure its something you don't really completely want but that doesn't mean that the kids(who by all means this game is for) don't enjoy getting there prizes. its players like this that disgust me, when you compare what play pokemon is doing by giving away staples like azelf and e-belt(and previously cards like uxie, claydol and bebe's) to say what wizards of the coast does with magic were a lucky group. by giving away cards that are quality promos it diversifies the game taking it away from being money ball and more to being an enjoyable game that people of all ages can not only get involved with fairly cheap but also be competitive in, and if that means getting promos that are partial duds ill take that any day
 
I'm pretty pumped about Tomb, regardless. Azelf and tomb should be switched IMO though, so people can get it early as possible. By the time we get it, we might already have the new Alph.
 
I'm pretty pumped about Tomb, regardless. Azelf and tomb should be switched IMO though, so people can get it early as possible. By the time we get it, we might already have the new Alph.

??? There's only one more Alph to get, IIRC, so we'll be getting it in just over a month. (Just under a month for PRs)

I don't understand why people aren't liking the Darkness/Metal energies. The Beautiful thing about them is they will probably always be legal. As noted on this thread, a few league promos are only legal for a couple months (If that) before they're 'useless' for battling. These two will endure.
 
The thing that I like about the promos is that even if you don't need them for a deck, they look awesome. Also, when players at my League get promo cards they don't want, I ask them to give them to new players to help them get started.
 
Are you people seriously complaining over something we're getting for free?
:nonono:

I'm quite happy with these promos. Expert Belt? Special Dark and Metal? Yes please.
Now hopefully our leauge actually gets these. We never got half of our promo cards and it's driving me nuts.
(I really wanted to get a few Dragonite FB just because I'm a huge Palmer fan. Remind me not to get my hopes up again.)
 
The new posters are pretty awesome. Love how they give you three of the small posters. And the art on the front and back of the point cards has a glossy feel. Neat.

But still, eight matches for a promo is a lot (at least it will be for the leagues here). I'm guessing that this is a way to avoid running out of promos too quickly. I just hope the kids don't try to finish their matches right away just to earn points. And I know that the rules aren't totally absolute, but only one extra point per week for doing the Challenge seems a bit limiting. Although, if you think about it, it's like earning 29 (one Challenge point every week for five weeks) points overall as opposed to last year's 24 needed to fill up the TCG side. So I suppose 32 isn't too bad. Maybe smaller leagues can allow two or more (or unlimited) Challenges points for a player per week. Just as long as they're all real matches.
 
I don't understand why people aren't liking the Darkness/Metal energies. The Beautiful thing about them is they will probably always be legal. As noted on this thread, a few league promos are only legal for a couple months (If that) before they're 'useless' for battling. These two will endure.
I think because they are one of the most frequently reprinted cards combined with them being specialized and low usage (how is it a tournament staple?).

In their current text, they are available in R&S, EM, UF, DS, HP, PK, MT, SW, MD, RR, UD, as well as them already being a league promo back in Nintendo's first year. That's 12 releases--some of them back-to-back. That doesn't even count the ones you need a reference for, like the super attractive Neo Genesis versions. Not to mention they haven't been rare cards since PK (they're common in SW and Uncommon in everything else post-PK) so in those 11 sets you end up with quite a few of them even if you haven't been collecting/playing for very long. Even Rare Candy, which has been supplied to League twice by POP5 and POP8, has only seen 7 releases (including the POP sets). The only cards more commonly reprinted than special Dark and Metal are probably Potion and Switch. (however, Rare Candy has more uses and therefore doesn't tend to fill up binders like special Dark/Metal do. Players can't get enough Rare Candy and new players both love it and need it. When in doubt, you can't go wrong by making Rare Candy a promo again.)

Also, unlike Warp Point, a staple trainer, special Dark and Metal are specialized to only work in a deck using those types (baring rare cases that use them in attack effects). Basic Dark and Metal would have been better because they are much harder to get and they are more easily searched for in-game (being basic instead of special).

If you want a card that always finds its way back into the Modified format, Copycat is a better example. Because it hasn't been reprinted in a while, there's less of them floating around and would have made a better candidate for a league promo. Copycat may not enjoy the usage it did in the past, but it is still a good card and people have taken to it again. It's low reprint frequency combined with it always sneaking back into Modified better serves the rational of special Dark/Metal being good choices because they are always tournament legal.

Not to argue, just explaining why they aren't liked. High reprint frequency vs low usage, and they are specialized in use instead of general.
 
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I think because they are one of the most frequently reprinted cards combined with them being specialized and low usage (how is it a tournament staple?).

In their current text, they are available in R&S, EM, UF, DS, HP, PK, MT, SW, MD, RR, UD, as well as them already being a league promo back in Nintendo's first year. That's 12 releases--some of them back-to-back. That doesn't even count the ones you need a reference for, like the super attractive Neo Genesis versions. Not to mention they haven't been rare cards since PK (they're common in SW and Uncommon in everything else post-PK) so in those 11 sets you end up with quite a few of them even if you haven't been collecting/playing for very long. Even Rare Candy, which has been supplied to League twice by POP5 and POP8, has only seen 7 releases (including the POP sets). The only cards more commonly reprinted than special Dark and Metal are probably Potion and Switch. (however, Rare Candy has more uses and therefore doesn't tend to fill up binders like special Dark/Metal do. Players can't get enough Rare Candy and new players both love it and need it. When in doubt, you can't go wrong by making Rare Candy a promo again.)

Also, unlike Warp Point, a staple trainer, special Dark and Metal are specialized to only work in a deck using those types (baring rare cases that use them in attack effects). Basic Dark and Metal would have been better because they are much harder to get and they are more easily searched for in-game (being basic instead of special).

If you want a card that always finds its way back into the Modified format, Copycat is a better example. Because it hasn't been reprinted in a while, there's less of them floating around and would have made a better candidate for a league promo. Copycat may not enjoy the usage it did in the past, but it is still a good card and people have taken to it again. It's low reprint frequency combined with it always sneaking back into Modified better serves the rational of special Dark/Metal being good choices because they are always tournament legal.

Not to argue, just explaining why they aren't liked. High reprint frequency vs low usage, and they are specialized in use instead of general.

You, sir, have just won the thread.
 
I think because they are one of the most frequently reprinted cards combined with them being specialized and low usage (how is it a tournament staple?).

In their current text, they are available in R&S, EM, UF, DS, HP, PK, MT, SW, MD, RR, UD, as well as them already being a league promo back in Nintendo's first year. That's 12 releases--some of them back-to-back. That doesn't even count the ones you need a reference for, like the super attractive Neo Genesis versions. Not to mention they haven't been rare cards since PK (they're common in SW and Uncommon in everything else post-PK) so in those 11 sets you end up with quite a few of them even if you haven't been collecting/playing for very long. Even Rare Candy, which has been supplied to League twice by POP5 and POP8, has only seen 7 releases (including the POP sets). The only cards more commonly reprinted than special Dark and Metal are probably Potion and Switch. (however, Rare Candy has more uses and therefore doesn't tend to fill up binders like special Dark/Metal do. Players can't get enough Rare Candy and new players both love it and need it. When in doubt, you can't go wrong by making Rare Candy a promo again.)

Also, unlike Warp Point, a staple trainer, special Dark and Metal are specialized to only work in a deck using those types (baring rare cases that use them in attack effects). Basic Dark and Metal would have been better because they are much harder to get and they are more easily searched for in-game (being basic instead of special).

If you want a card that always finds its way back into the Modified format, Copycat is a better example. Because it hasn't been reprinted in a while, there's less of them floating around and would have made a better candidate for a league promo. Copycat may not enjoy the usage it did in the past, but it is still a good card and people have taken to it again. It's low reprint frequency combined with it always sneaking back into Modified better serves the rational of special Dark/Metal being good choices because they are always tournament legal.

Not to argue, just explaining why they aren't liked. High reprint frequency vs low usage, and they are specialized in use instead of general.

Looking back at the LPs of last year, how many of them will be ANY good deck-wise going forward?

Snorlax - X
Uxie - O (For one year only)
Arcanine G - X
Dialga G - O (For possibly two years)
Milotic C - X
Claydol - X
Dragonite FB - O (Select decks)
Roseanne's Research - X (Barring reprints)
Felicity's - X (Barring reprints)
Skarmory FB - X
Dusknoir FB - X
Bebe's Search - O (For most likely two years)
Empoleon FB - X
Underground Expedition - O (For most likely two years, but who uses them?)
Butterfree FB - X
Warp Point - O (For one year only)

So we've got 6 useable out of 16. Next year, that will drop to 3 useable, depending on the rotation.

Now look at this season's promos. Almost all will be good for 3 years +. {Speculation} If the next rotation is RR on, and the one after that HGSS on, then the first rotation we'll only lose Azelf. Second rotation, we lose Expert Belt & Spiritomb. {/speculation} Those three are in the first three seasons. The second two season will last a very long time, since they're from our two newest sets. The only one from the old LPs that even compares to the longevity of the new ones is Dialga G. Special Dark & Metal? Theoretically, if TPCi keeps up the rate of re-release, you could play with them forever. How about the other 'tournament staples'? Looking at the big picture, they're flashes in the pan compared to Dark & Steel Energies. Yes, not many competitive players play those types (Sablock & DialgaChomp would like a word) But the types keep being played. Throughout the game's history, there has been a low percentage (or not so low, at times) that use the types. Added up, that percentage is bigger than those who will use, say, Spiritomb, never mind the other promos like Steelix and Crobat.

Also, I can tell you that new players are JUST as happy to see special Dark & metal as anything else. We've got a new player at league, I offered her a trade for a bunch of rare candies or a bunch of special Dark/Steel. She wanted the Dark/Steel, and we negotiated until I could give her 4 of each. With UD being so Dark/Steel type heavy, there are plenty of new players who either bought the theme deck or bought a few packs and pulled lots of shiny new Pokemon they want to use. Honestly, I don't think I've seen a single pack of UD opened that didn't have a dark or steel type Pokemon in it. Dark & Steel have a mental appeal, since they're supposed to be 'rare.'
 
Honestly, I don't think I've seen a single pack of UD opened that didn't have a dark or steel type Pokemon in it. Dark & Steel have a mental appeal, since they're supposed to be 'rare.'
If only special dark and steel energy cards could be reprinted in numerous sets, sometimes in back-to-back sets, as an uncommon card in order to keep up with that mental appeal :rolleyes:

Looking back at the LPs of last year, how many of them will be ANY good deck-wise going forward?
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So we've got 6 useable out of 16. Next year, that will drop to 3 useable, depending on the rotation.
Your analysis is really out of context. We're talking about the tournament staples of the season promo set. To make clear, I'm not saying this this is a bad promo for league. In fact, the two already have been once before. I'm saying that it is a bad choice for the tournament-staple of the season. Had these cards been the season-themed of the pair, I wouldn't say anything about it.

There is more trouble getting basic dark/metal energy cards, which is in significantly less sets. That would have been a better league promo if you're concerned about longevity.
 
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Uxie - O (For one year only) <- staple
Dialga G - O (For possibly two years) <- part of one of the best decks right now
Claydol - X <- staple staüple last season, was incredibly hard to get
Dragonite FB - O (Select decks) <- good despite beoing the "crap" card
Roseanne's Research - X (Barring reprints) <- staple last year
Felicity's - X (Barring reprints) <- nthing special but good
Bebe's Search - O (For most likely two years) <- THE staple
Underground Expedition - O (For most likely two years, but who uses them?) <- ok and not as useless as you might htink
Warp Point - O (For one year only ) <- staple and IMO it will be reprinted anyway

And your example proves nothing IMO, sure someone who has no cards will like em but for any kid that tries to become a tournanet player but cant afford chase cards, these are pointless. I always thought the point of those promos was it to make hard to get and "expensive" cards accesable for children. But SP Metal/Dark are incredibly cheap and so common theres no need for them really. You can get them anywhere, I probably have enough to support a league on my own lol.

Thyre just pointless, if a kid seriously needs them it can ask anyone at league and will get them, they have been reprinted to death and are worth nothing so I dont see the point. I know the kids at my league who try to get into the game will think theyre nothing but pointless. Spiritimb is 6/8 $, this is what kids want, cards they coxuldnt afford but that are nessesary.

I absolutly afgree with the post you quoted
 
Perhaps the trollish part here is that its really Houndoom and Steelix who are the playables...

Hey don't knock it, Houndoom is better then generally given credit for.
 
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