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Did Pokemon died because of that? NO.
We showed last Worlds that the players outside the N-American continent deserve more changes.

i never said anything about pokemon dying. i said that the move to cut invites and taking worlds to hawaii instead of a more cost-effective location did nothing to improve the game.

international doesn't mean best of the best if the best are from the u.s. :p
 
Rulemaster said:
i never said anything about pokemon dying. i said that the move to cut invites and taking worlds to hawaii instead of a more cost-effective location did nothing to improve the game.


Because it will cost more money?
I do think it will improve the game in words of skilled players.
Think what will happen if Worlds moves to the EU continent.

I have a solution for that, in case Worlds really goes to Europe, the N-Americans can have their STATES with 1 trip+invite and only local citizen allowed to play. And you also can have 3 invites per group without TRIP.

Think GLOBAL.

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Rulemaster said:
international doesn't mean best of the best if the best are from the u.s. :p

Meaby the top 4 of Worlds are the best of the best?
Meaby in Masters the USA players are better than anyone else.
But you don't need 50+ in a group to proof you are the best, we only needed 1.:biggrin:
 
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At the City I'm going to in a few hours, all I can say is every single game will have so much pressure, losing is not an option.
 
I have a solution for that, in case Worlds really goes to Europe, the N-Americans can have their STATES with 1 trip+invite and only local citizen allowed to play. And you also can have 3 invites per group without TRIP.
uhm yeah. That would give us 50 invites. I'm all for that, it seems really good to me actually. If thats the kind of suffering you guys have had to endure than congrats you've had it easy. You're trying to make a point and failing misserably.
I disagree, International we never had "easy go" Gym Challenges", we only had 1 Nationals and if you were lucky 1 Trip+ invite per agegroup.

Did Pokemon died because of that? NO.
exactly. the pokemontcg would go on fine without you buying cards, but if everyone in the US descides not to play anymore, things would get changed. Quick.
 
People have already said they want to play in WORLDS over Nationals or anything else. Anyone with a brain would know that if customers want something, you GIVE IT TO THEM, instead of trying to convine them that they actually want something else.

Yes.
 
You know what.......quit if you want to. I guarantee you that tourneys will still be put on by PTOs, families will still play and MAYBE we will get a bit better SoTG back?!? This GAME isn't about just what "I" can get out of it, but what can "WE ALL" get out of it. That means giving back to the game also. PUI/POP has given ALOT to the playing and judging base in the last few years. Yes, they had to rebuild a broken image left by WOTC, but look where the game is today? Looks like they knew what they were doing! This game is growing and I predict will continue to grow.

This isn't about getting free trips, Lawman. It's not about the "me me me." You're right, 15-19 year-olds DON'T buy as many cards as the parents do for their kids. And they also don't have parents shoveling them cash to drive around the country. But they STILL have cards and they STILL show up to practically every tournament within an 8-hour radius of their homes. Why is that? Because we LOVE this game. We want to play this game! We want to go to the biggest event in the World and stake our claim as the best player in the game we love! We are the people who have been playing since the game came out, and what we want to do more than anything is PLAY! Worlds is the biggest event of the year and when even the best players hear that a whole season's worth of effort isn't going to result in playing at worlds for the majority of the players, it is very disheartening. Is it really difficult to see that when high school and college kids, with barely any money still find ways to pay for the travel expenses to relatively small tournaments all over the country, are told that they probably aren't going to be invited to the biggest tournament of the year to play the game they love they get very upset about it!

Where did that broken image by WotC come from? From eliminating the game's most faithful players: the 15+. Look around at who is playing today that were playing back in the STS days. I recognize almost NO 10- players from WotC days that are still playing. Looking at the top players in the 15+ now, and a huge percentage of them were playing years ago. We are the age group that sticks with the game, and we don't play for the prizes. We don't play for the free trips. We play because we love Pokemon and it should be no surprise that people get upset when they're told that they probably won't be able to play.



How do I feel about this? Well I liked the idea of having a ratings-based invites, but not necessarily at the expense of having Gym Challenges. There was something really cool about showing up to a tournament knowing that you had a chance TODAY to win a trip to worlds. Also it is nice being able to try a new or relatively untested deck at a tournament. With ratings-based invites, I have to take every tournament seriously.

However, ratings based invites also reward consistent play and are generally more revealing of who is winning the most games of Pokemon. The downsides to a ratings-based system is that a) it rewards players who are in soft areas and b) doesn't necessarily reward players who actually play decks that WIN tournaments. There is a very subtle strategy in deck choice in that there are some decks that are good, but can't win tournaments, and some decks that are good and can win tournaments. A deck that is good and usually can't win tournaments are ones with no good or bad matchups. If you play a deck with good matchups, you can get paired in those matchups and set yourself up for victory. That isn't to say you can't outplay someone, but it does give you a better chance of winning the tournament rather than just doing well, in my opinion. A ratings system gives more of a boost to decks that are very consistent with no good or bad matchups than other types of decks.

Generally I favor a ratings-based system, but with so few invites I really question POP's decisions. It seems that by only allowing eight players in all of North America that you're really going to favor the 8 players that dominate their area the best; meaning that if you're from a highly-competitive area you are going to have a tough time.
 
heh...

hehe....

hahaha...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

You guys are absolutely HILARIOUS!!! This is quite possibly the funniest thread I've seen since the Ban thread from a few months ago!!! Seriously, PUI has made its decision as to how this season is going to work, and they're not likely to change their minds for this season. I might not agree completley with their decisions (K-values are about it), I fully support their right to make said decisions. Guys, you keep forgetting that these events are COMPLETELY FREE OF CHARGE!!! There is NO other TCG out there that provides a prize structure anything similar to this with ABSOLUTELY NO CHARGE TO ITS PLAYERS!!! So, the invites get cut. Big flippin deal. Only about 5% of the Pokemon playing population was actually vying for an invite inside of the United States. A good amount of people who made it to Worlds last year did so by d0nking a Gyms. ****, I'm an average player AT BEST, and I almost d0nked a Worlds invite two years ago. I never diserved to get within one game, ****, TWO PRIZES of getting into Worlds, and there are a good amount of people who made Worlds last year who are the exact same level of player as me. I did not diserve to be in my position two years ago, and neither were those players, IMO.

I love the move to reduce the number of invites to America Quite frankly, we were just too enamored with our perception of Worlds for our own good. Nationals, to me, has always been the holy grail of events to play in. I had no real thought about going to Worlds, both because it was too expensive for me to go, and I've never been good enough to make it there. Nationals, on the other hand, sounds like one of the best experiences to a Pokemon player and judge. ****, Regionals will also win here. Quite frankly, the two Regionals that I went to were both fairly low key for tournaments of their calibur. MW Regionals were especially bad in terms of environment. With Nationals now being the UlTiMaTe event, Regionals will get a nice boost in the way that they are marketed and run.

Cities have increased over last year. I remember that last year there were only about 4 Cities that I even had a chance of making (I only made two of them). This year, I've seen nearly a 400% increase in Cities that were within a decent driving distance of the two places where I live, and though I'll only be attending 3 of them (mostly because of school), there have been at least 12 that I could have easily made. I'd rather have a lot more medium to large events than a single massive event. idk who would agree with me on that, but that's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it.
 
Seriously, PUI has made its decision as to how this season is going to work, and they're not likely to change their minds for this season.


Um. They can't.

They've made a decision, and they have to live with it, regardless of how bad a decision it is.

But you know what? PUI can make chnages to next years plans RIGHT NOW.

We're not fighting to get this year changed. That's impossible. We're fighting for the future. Every single year after this.
 
Profesa_Magma said:
uhm yeah. That would give us 50 invites. I'm all for that, it seems really good to me actually.


Yes 50 invites, Yes 1 per agegroup.
You don't understand how YOUR changes would decrease that way, looking at the number 50 makes it look good, but you don't get it.

So Mister Magma, you live for example in North Carolina, the only invite+trip you can win is getting nr 1 of your State Championship, You will not be allowed to attend to any other State Championship. NO Nationals, NOTHING only that 1 States.

You loose States and you are finished for that season, no Worlds for you. Does it still look that good for you????
At this moment you have 8+ changes for that invite+trip.
 
Rainbowgym said:
Yes 50 invites, Yes 1 per agegroup.
You don't understand how YOUR changes would decrease that way, looking at the number 50 makes it look good, but you don't get it.

So Mister Magma, you live for example in North Carolina, the only invite+trip you can win is getting nr 1 of your State Championship, You will not be allowed to attend to any other State Championship. NO Nationals, NOTHING only that 1 States.

You loose States and you are finished for that season, no Worlds for you. Does it still look that good for you????
At this moment you have 8+ changes for that invite+trip.
Actually, not too bad. I mean, certain states would be far more competitive than others, but I rather like "one and done" for this kind of tournament. You've only got one shot to make it. Either take it, or sit your butt on the sidelines and let the others go for it.
 
Rainbowgym said:
Funny how misinformed some people are.
In Seniors 2 N-America players earned an invite+trip. Japan did not make top 4 in Seniors (11-14).
Really? Then were did the other 2 trip/invites go? I knew at least 2(I guessed on the 3rd), and the other one looked like a Japanese name. So I dunno...
 
If I didn't live in the United States, I would have a better chance of getting to Worlds than I do now. I'm fairly sure most good US players agree with me. That's why US players are upset.
 
Moss Factor said:
If I didn't live in the United States, I would have a better chance of getting to Worlds than I do now. I'm fairly sure most good US players agree with me. That's why US players are upset.

Canada is worse off. Have we ever had a top 8 in premier ranking in North America?
 
Moss Factor said:
If I didn't live in the United States, I would have a better chance of getting to Worlds than I do now. I'm fairly sure most good US players agree with me. That's why US players are upset.
agreed.
 
Moss Factor said:
If I didn't live in the United States, I would have a better chance of getting to Worlds than I do now. I'm fairly sure most good US players agree with me. That's why US players are upset.


Name the country were you think you could have a better change.
 
Name the country were you think you could have a better change.


Austria, Belgium, Croatia, Czech Rep., Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Slovenia, South Africa, Sweden, Switzerland, UK, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Ecuador, Australia, Hong Kong, Indonesia, Malaysia, New Zealand, Philippines, Singapore, Taiwan

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How many more times does the U.S. have to prove it has the best players? Win 2 more Worlds? 20?

Look this is screwing EVERYONE. And who's to say we can't get stuff changed RIGHT NOW? Everyone whined like a baby about no grinder and that came back pretty quickly! PUI needs to take a step back and look at what happened to the 15+ under WOTC. You DON'T MESS WITH US!

If they're gonna make Nationals the premier event (I've even said this several times) it needs to be a huge event with huge prizes. I am FINE with making Nationals THE event as long as it steps it up. According to their "press release" it isn't. How could we NOT be upset? Some of you people are INSANE! This is SO unbelievably bad for the game.
 
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