ryanvergel
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dont know what he did. that was the morning of regionals trying to sleeve our decks. havent asked since
Sleeve Quality.
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Have you forwarded the URL of this topic to TPCi? As a moderator and proponent, I'd think that would be a natural thing to do.
When professors voice their grievances publically here, TPCi finds out. Hopefully, TPCi reads threads like this not merely to look for professors who speak out negatively, but considers these topics for what's going well and for future self-improvements.
Personally, I like a certain kind of non-artback sleeve and invest in the same color/style so that I can replace individual sleeves as they wear out. I've used a few of the TPCi sleeves and find them adequate, though I don't "work" them as much as others do.
Ew. I don't know if it's just my area or not, but I've heard like, everyone who owns PC sleeves complain about the bad quality. Again, it may be just my area though. I'm not fond of them either, they rip too easy.
If you are going to a big tourney or something, use like, KMC or Ultrapro. Then again, if you're using them for BR's, go ahead and use the pre-sleeves.
Pokemon Trainer Mikko
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Omnislash5
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I ordered the HG/SS Unleashed Sleeves. I never bought sleeves, what exactly is wrong with them?
yes, i actually have; thanks for the concern.
i firmly believe that the responsibility should be with the person who has the issue with the sleeves to contact OP directly about it. why post here when that same effort needed to post could be used to craft an email to OP and/or customer service...the people who could actually DO something about it like perhaps offer to replace the defective sleeves?
considering how busy the OP team is with both VGC and BRSp and Nats soon approaching, imho it's unrealistic to assume they will happen upon this or any other thread while reading the 'gym in their likely nonexistent spare time at work.
tl; dr...if you have an issue, contact TPCi directly before, if not instead of posting about it here. after all, they're the folks who can actually DO something about it...
'mom
The only sleeves I would only use for a big tournament is,
- Lucario Sleeves (The best one released)
- Dusknoir
- Rotom
- Darkrai or Leafeon
- Giratina
I'm sorry but the HGSS Unleashed sleeves were probably the worst sleeves I have gotten my hands on. ONE shuffle, about 1/4 of the sleeves were already half peeled.
- Lucario Sleeves (The best one released)
- Dusknoir
- Rotom
- Darkrai or Leafeon
- Giratina
I'm sorry but the HGSS Unleashed sleeves were probably the worst sleeves I have gotten my hands on. ONE shuffle, about 1/4 of the sleeves were already half peeled.
Austino
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What's the point in having a forum to discuss things if we're told NOT to discuss them publicly, but to keep it in secret and just tell POP?
Is it too big of a deal for any type of failure to be made public? Are we not allowed to publicly speak out as players about quality control? Why is it that for the who knows how many times now, we're told, "You shouldn't be posting about it here, but bringing it up with them directly...." If you give us a forum to discuss all things pokemon, LET US DISCUSS ALL THINGS POKEMON. It's really quite simple, and we shouldn't have to all mass email POP about the quality of prerelease sleeves. It's been going on since Supreme Victors and I think it just has to do with the batch of sleeves for a few sets (like how Gigas through Rotom were all awesome and similar style).
um, my issue with people bringing it here is not 'keeping it secret', but how people think bringing it here is a SUBSTITUTE for contacting TPCi directly.
how many times have people complained about [insert issue here] on these forums and when asked if they'd actually *contacted the people who can do something about it*, they hadn't/couldn't be bothered to do so?
how many times have the OP guys posted to a complaint thread saying that they find no record of an email stating the issue from the person who posted here?
in my experience reading the forums, that's been the case MOST OF THE TIME. so the conclusion i'm forced to draw from this is that people are more interested in starting a dogpile than taking it to those who can actually address the issue. ymmv...
jmho
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haha@PokeMom:
Public discussion to a perceived problem often gets more attention from corporations than private emails. Although professors and organizers have been admonished to speak privately about such matters, the player-base is under no such caution. Therefore, I'd think TPCi would actually welcome (maybe even prefer) open discussions, critiques, and recommendations from the "public" about their products.
In our spam-filled electronic age, people have come to realize that public bulletin boards like this often get more results than private emails to an overloaded mailbox.
Public discussion to a perceived problem often gets more attention from corporations than private emails. Although professors and organizers have been admonished to speak privately about such matters, the player-base is under no such caution. Therefore, I'd think TPCi would actually welcome (maybe even prefer) open discussions, critiques, and recommendations from the "public" about their products.
In our spam-filled electronic age, people have come to realize that public bulletin boards like this often get more results than private emails to an overloaded mailbox.
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vanderbilt_grad
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I also want to chime in that it was a LOT harder for me to even find the contact us link on the new website. It's easy to say contact TPCi directly but unfortunately it's a bit harder than it used to be.
I eventually found that link after about 15 minutes of looking.
I eventually found that link after about 15 minutes of looking.
While 'Mom does actually forward us things like this at times, her willingness to do so is not a substitute for people contacting us directly to let us know about issues. Reminding people to be sure and contact us if they need is a good thing because player feedback is important to us.
'Mom telling folks to be sure to contact us directly if there are issues is different than Pokemon Trainer Mikko reminding FunnyBear about the Professor Core Values. You can look at TPCi employee post histories to see that we address far more than just Professor issues when posting here Steve.
Again let’s be clear that no one is trying to tell general players not to discuss the quality of sleeves and note that Professors are free to chime in with tact or use the OP forums if they wish to be a bit more blunt.
That said, if I have to show my boss a sample of public opinion in order to help me change policy on something, I will choose a well written letter that discusses issues and maybe even suggests reasonable fixes over an internet dog pile any day of the week.
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Sorry to hear that! If it helps you can always just use [email protected] or [email protected] to reach us as well.
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@Biggie:
Feedback comes in many forms. Certainly, when I'm looking for a good movie to go to, I'm going to pay more attention to well-written reviews than the 5-word opinions. Nevertheless, I still sift through the dog-poop to occasionally find some value in the "average Joe/Jane" reviews on the boards.
That's my point. There are some well-written suggestions appearing often on these public boards. Hopefully, you don't generalize comments on PokeGYM and other public boards as "dog piling." Some people just prefer this means of feedback rather than private emails. That's all.
Feedback comes in many forms. Certainly, when I'm looking for a good movie to go to, I'm going to pay more attention to well-written reviews than the 5-word opinions. Nevertheless, I still sift through the dog-poop to occasionally find some value in the "average Joe/Jane" reviews on the boards.
That's my point. There are some well-written suggestions appearing often on these public boards. Hopefully, you don't generalize comments on PokeGYM and other public boards as "dog piling." Some people just prefer this means of feedback rather than private emails. That's all.
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Hikari_Netto
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From what I understand, the main reason they were changed was due to their transparency. The sleeves were non-opaque so you could see Japanese backings or such when playing with a mixed deck. I'm guessing that after complaints TPCi made an effort to keep all sleeves made after non-translucent, and because of that the quality level took a hit. Soon that won't be a problem, so maybe come next season we can return to Lucario levels of quality?
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