GrandmaJoner
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people tell me and other players from my hood that we suck cuz we're canadian ;/
Sorry to have a rant, but this is not acceptable...
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Ace_Gaming
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My, My - this has been busy since I left it...
Sami, you seem to be taking all of these comments rather personally especially when they are not even directed at you - especially for someone that 'apparently' doesn't care. Guilty conscience perhaps?
Myself and a considerable amount of others were also positive that both yours and your brother's SOTG were lacking to the nth degree at the Nats. Your family trying to intimidate a player by shouting at them was certainly noted by many, including the judge who at the time felt a warning was appropriate for your brother's language and misplay - and also asked on serveral occassions for you and your father to remain quiet and not interfere; which you again argued over. I hope your not teaching other players in your area the same sort of standards.
But anyway, lets please not turn this into a flame war. Everyone who has currently posted have made their own opinion's quite clear enough already thanks. Although If any other people who havn't yet would like to, post away - It would be nice to hear some "fresh" views on this please.
P.S.
Likewise, no real point to your post Sami. I don't know why you feel the need to be involved...I think Illusion is correct in saying that your very childish in your mannerisms - "which is why i feel you were truly illusive on the higher tables." - grow up a little mate.
amphyrules said:
Sami, you seem to be taking all of these comments rather personally especially when they are not even directed at you - especially for someone that 'apparently' doesn't care. Guilty conscience perhaps?
Myself and a considerable amount of others were also positive that both yours and your brother's SOTG were lacking to the nth degree at the Nats. Your family trying to intimidate a player by shouting at them was certainly noted by many, including the judge who at the time felt a warning was appropriate for your brother's language and misplay - and also asked on serveral occassions for you and your father to remain quiet and not interfere; which you again argued over. I hope your not teaching other players in your area the same sort of standards.
But anyway, lets please not turn this into a flame war. Everyone who has currently posted have made their own opinion's quite clear enough already thanks. Although If any other people who havn't yet would like to, post away - It would be nice to hear some "fresh" views on this please.
P.S.
Illusion (I hope this is who I think it is) is one of the most talented players I have seen yet, and even with the absense of your arrogance, or indeed ignorance.amphyrules said:
Likewise, no real point to your post Sami. I don't know why you feel the need to be involved...I think Illusion is correct in saying that your very childish in your mannerisms - "which is why i feel you were truly illusive on the higher tables." - grow up a little mate.
amphyrules
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First of all, i didn't want to bring you into the picture but you've invited yourself so whatever. You are a player who misplays and attempts to bend the rules in his favour. You should read the cards, the rules, and try to improve your game as simply net-decking and trying to gain sympathy from judges inexperienced in the situation is absoloutely ridiculous. It was indeed you and a few of your friends that claimed you would beat me with ease and whatever, so all this is BS on your part. You underestimated the competition and got outplayed - deal with it bud.
The reason im taking this so personally is actually because I was targeted by a fool we'll call 'ILLUSION' for no real reason. He claims i was bad-mouthing Hull players, firstly; I don't know or care about any of you, I REALLY don't. Players who feel such hostility towards me won't get a pat on the
back or a cookie pal, expect it back.
For you to attempt to bring my father into this is completely ridiculous, a man who has had no tournament experience and DIDN'T even talk to the players throughout the tournament is being singled out? He wanted to know why me and yacine were paired on more than one occasion on the day and didn't make THAT big a deal out of it, he later apologized to the TO for the misunderstanding. He said SORRY, something it appears you were incapable of doing. WHAT about your mother pal, the person sitting right next to you during the latter stages of the match?! BS!!
And an unwillingness to shake hands with your opponent? I dont even know if you actually did shake hands but whatever. Great Role model pal
For you to say i shouted is just plain stupid. You were the one who targeted an insult first, my brother simply ranted about the situation.
From my experience with players from, lets say 'further away then id travel', they have been good on a whole, but a few have been bad. You need to look in a mirror, look real hard; and think about wether its me or you that needs to grow up bud.
Why did you not respond to my brothers post in the other thread? Not even a PM to argue your case? Its because your wrong :/
Before bringing my family into anything like this, i ask you reconsider and think it through. Its me thats posting my argument, target me, if you can.
I also ask you to refrain from calling me Sami, but from now on use, Mr Sekkoum OR King of Hull. I'll let you decide.
Simply saying, Illusion is one of the most talented players you've seen meens NOTHING to me. Do you know how badly the UK is viewed as being by other International players? Winning a City, a State, Even winning Nationals meens NOTHING to them. I've seen the best play, book a ticket and fly over to Anahiem and you'll see em too.
Im 16, its a CARD game, we play and try our best to win. Just because you run a league or whatever doesn't meen you are exempt from following the rules and keeping up SOTG even if you feel its not being shown towards you.
Grow up a little mate.
Sami
The reason im taking this so personally is actually because I was targeted by a fool we'll call 'ILLUSION' for no real reason. He claims i was bad-mouthing Hull players, firstly; I don't know or care about any of you, I REALLY don't. Players who feel such hostility towards me won't get a pat on the
back or a cookie pal, expect it back.
For you to attempt to bring my father into this is completely ridiculous, a man who has had no tournament experience and DIDN'T even talk to the players throughout the tournament is being singled out? He wanted to know why me and yacine were paired on more than one occasion on the day and didn't make THAT big a deal out of it, he later apologized to the TO for the misunderstanding. He said SORRY, something it appears you were incapable of doing. WHAT about your mother pal, the person sitting right next to you during the latter stages of the match?! BS!!
And an unwillingness to shake hands with your opponent? I dont even know if you actually did shake hands but whatever. Great Role model pal
For you to say i shouted is just plain stupid. You were the one who targeted an insult first, my brother simply ranted about the situation.
From my experience with players from, lets say 'further away then id travel', they have been good on a whole, but a few have been bad. You need to look in a mirror, look real hard; and think about wether its me or you that needs to grow up bud.
Why did you not respond to my brothers post in the other thread? Not even a PM to argue your case? Its because your wrong :/
Before bringing my family into anything like this, i ask you reconsider and think it through. Its me thats posting my argument, target me, if you can.
I also ask you to refrain from calling me Sami, but from now on use, Mr Sekkoum OR King of Hull. I'll let you decide.
Simply saying, Illusion is one of the most talented players you've seen meens NOTHING to me. Do you know how badly the UK is viewed as being by other International players? Winning a City, a State, Even winning Nationals meens NOTHING to them. I've seen the best play, book a ticket and fly over to Anahiem and you'll see em too.
Im 16, its a CARD game, we play and try our best to win. Just because you run a league or whatever doesn't meen you are exempt from following the rules and keeping up SOTG even if you feel its not being shown towards you.
Grow up a little mate.
Sami
Can i just ask what implications you meant by that?
First of all whats the point in calling me a fool? Secondly.. i wasn't targeting you, like i said i was responding to your replies in the way that I feel was appropriate, so dont go flaming and insulting me. If you dont want to call me Illusion, then call me Mr Hamilton. It wasn't Ben that ever said he was going to beat you it was me, and i said it joking around, you know what jokes are dont you? Apparently you make them all the time.
Well Sami, i would never call you the King of Hull, even if you were The best player in the wrold, and why is that? Because a king has respect from his followers, and i feel that, if i respected you, then i'd lose my luch
So now you show your true colours. I never once said that you bad mouthed the Hull region, all i did was defend myself from your malicious verbal assault. There is absolutely no need for you to say some of the hurtful things you have, and i think its the guilt of knowing that you were wrong and not been able to admit it, that makes you compulsively do that
You say you try the best you can to win, and i agree completely.. you do try to win at all costs, and its that about you that makes you so arrogant. Maybe you should step back, take a deep breath, and calm down, maybe then we'll get something out of you that isnt a complete load of rubbish.
Illusion out
It seems to me this thread realy has no direction, wouldn't you do better just to leave it at that. Sami's made it clear he has no negative feelings towards Regional players, but keeping on at him will provoke him and others to have bad feelings one way or another. I realy don't see what can be achieved from this, and my advice to prove those players wrong who realy do bad mouth the northern ones (there are a few sadly) is to develop your gaming skills, develop a bigger player base and prove your qualities to them by getting victories at tournaments.
Kempley05 said:
So what you are saying is that you think that northern players dont have talent alredy?maybe if you tried coming to some of our tournament, you would see just how good some of our players are, maybe the people who badmouth us should try and play against those they say are bad players? then see the look on there face when they are beaten.
As for getting a bigger player base, what do you think we are trying to do? the northern tournaments have only been around for about 10 months, and i think having about 15- 20 people show up regularly is an acheivement
And as far as the victories go, i win most of the time, but that doesnt seem to matter,to you lot, im sure it was you that said "High ranking, but he's from yorkshire", at the same time you told the forum about my deck. Maybe, just maybe if you got off your high horse came up north, our players could teach you to respect us.
Illusion out
Illusion said:
Wow, where did that come from, did I say you guys were bad? I seriously didn't say any of that, all I said was that the best way to prove a few arrogant people wrong was to win more tournaments, and the best way to do that is to practice and improve. I'm supporting you guys here and theres nothing I would like to see more than even stronger Northern success having some northern blood in me myself.
Illusion said:
Again, did I say you wern't trying to do that, all I'm saying is that you'ld do better by taking your efforts out of threads like this and into astracting more players to the game.
Illusion said:
You've not quoted all that I said though, I think I put a smilie and and explamation mark after saying that, which kinda indicates I'm joking
, also I said somthing like 'don't underestimate him'. and somthing about how Andy's report said you were good. Seriously, I'm on no high horse, and actually I've been talking to Ben H and I'll deffinatly be going up to you're RC's and CC's if I have the time. This season I've had a little trouble with income for my cards and travel but I did get to go to Exeter on holiday and there was a CC there on the same weekend - I went and got slaughtered, but it was the best CC I went to, because of thier SOTG.
amphyrules
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Illusion said:Can i just ask what implications you meant by that?
First of all whats the point in calling me a fool? Secondly.. i wasn't targeting you, like i said i was responding to your replies in the way that I feel was appropriate, so dont go flaming and insulting me. If you dont want to call me Illusion, then call me Mr Hamilton. It wasn't Ben that ever said he was going to beat you it was me, and i said it joking around, you know what jokes are dont you? Apparently you make them all the time.
Well Sami, i would never call you the King of Hull, even if you were The best player in the wrold, and why is that? Because a king has respect from his followers, and i feel that, if i respected you, then i'd lose my luch
So now you show your true colours. I never once said that you bad mouthed the Hull region, all i did was defend myself from your malicious verbal assault. There is absolutely no need for you to say some of the hurtful things you have, and i think its the guilt of knowing that you were wrong and not been able to admit it, that makes you compulsively do that
You say you try the best you can to win, and i agree completely.. you do try to win at all costs, and its that about you that makes you so arrogant. Maybe you should step back, take a deep breath, and calm down, maybe then we'll get something out of you that isnt a complete load of rubbish.
Illusion out
I assure you, i don't feel a SINGLE ounce of guilt bud. I was originally just making a joke, and you turned it into something else. Ill finish off by saying, it doesn't matter to me HOW good you think your players are, or how much you and Ben H love eachother *YES!*. All that matters is, I didn't say anything about the players from Hull and it was infact summa the dudes from Hull who began with the arrogant talk.
~The King of Hull.
arctic_frost
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Illusion said:
Who are you anyway?
And besides, why are you so hung up on it? Nationals was liek, a month ago...
Frosty
Ace_Gaming
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Joe, thanks for defending us - but Kempley's alright, he isn't having a go or anything. He's a cool player actually, who appriciates the game for what it is, not just what you win (don't let that go to your head though :tongue: ). There should be more people with this attitude playing the game.
Yeah, as for player base your right - its only just really started and 20 people on a regular basis for leagues and tourney's is quite an acheivement I feel. As I've said before though, I plan to do some advertising this summer from my own pocket to try and get some more people interested in the game, so we all hope to see this number rise even more. :clap:
I agree with Kempley though, this topic is starting to go off the rails a bit. All I wanted was to make it aware in the effort to prevent this next time, as I'm sure any of you would feel the same way.
As for bad feelings, I think its too late for Sami :wink:. Lets just leave this alone now, ok?
*2006 World Cup England - WE WERE ROBBED!!!*
Yeah, as for player base your right - its only just really started and 20 people on a regular basis for leagues and tourney's is quite an acheivement I feel. As I've said before though, I plan to do some advertising this summer from my own pocket to try and get some more people interested in the game, so we all hope to see this number rise even more. :clap:
I agree with Kempley though, this topic is starting to go off the rails a bit. All I wanted was to make it aware in the effort to prevent this next time, as I'm sure any of you would feel the same way.
As for bad feelings, I think its too late for Sami :wink:. Lets just leave this alone now, ok?
*2006 World Cup England - WE WERE ROBBED!!!*
so you have all established that some of the top players have been not showing SOTG. this is hardly surprising as neither did a lot of the judges in the higher category. what you all failed to notice is that the judges and the top players and the organisers were all on first name terms, and very comfortably aquainted with each other to the point of double standards in rulings and in the handing of competitors disputes. favoritism was rife. the game itself is too corrupt, and i find it surprising that there are so few threads on the subject.
maybe the players were too busy being shocked by the regional-bigotry to notice that the boys club on the top table included judges.
nuff said.
maybe the players were too busy being shocked by the regional-bigotry to notice that the boys club on the top table included judges.
nuff said.
The_thIrd_comiNG
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arctic_frost
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nobody said:
Perhaps that could be because the players on the top tables had something called "friends"???
Besides, why are you hiding from everybody? I imagine that you already have a profile, but have created a duplicate to say this without repercussions. If you have something to say, then come out and say it. Who are you?
=/
Frosty
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What's a friend?
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Nidoran
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Ace_Gaming
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Shut up Steve you muppet! Read the topic properley - it mentions several times about Joe :tongue:
ukpokemonpro
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So if I am reading this right we have some players from a Northwards and Eastwards outpost called Hull who believe they were hard done by at Nationals?
They think that SOTG was not shown by the top players in the tournament and that the Judges were too friendly with the top players to the point of being in cahoots with them?
Well I suggest to you again; that you should have complained on the day, and that if you still feel hard done by you can complain now.
Personally after my one attempt to sympathise with the original post resulted in an unprovoked attack and my posts being misquoted I really don't think you're going to get anywhere.
At the moment all Ace_Gaming, Illusion and nobody's post do is inflame the situation and make it look like it is you who are missing the SOTG needed to play this game.
Judges knowing competitors .. wow .. that will be because we have been playing and organising this game for over 6 years .. surprising that we know each other - Nope not at all - Surprising that we don't know you? - Nope not at all and with the attitude shown here I am not sure I want to know you either.
As for Judges showing any favour to players they know - prove it and complain otherwise it is just looks like bad grace from you and yours.
Maybe it's all a smokescreen or an excuse for the lack of performance?
They think that SOTG was not shown by the top players in the tournament and that the Judges were too friendly with the top players to the point of being in cahoots with them?
Well I suggest to you again; that you should have complained on the day, and that if you still feel hard done by you can complain now.
Personally after my one attempt to sympathise with the original post resulted in an unprovoked attack and my posts being misquoted I really don't think you're going to get anywhere.
At the moment all Ace_Gaming, Illusion and nobody's post do is inflame the situation and make it look like it is you who are missing the SOTG needed to play this game.
Judges knowing competitors .. wow .. that will be because we have been playing and organising this game for over 6 years .. surprising that we know each other - Nope not at all - Surprising that we don't know you? - Nope not at all and with the attitude shown here I am not sure I want to know you either.
As for Judges showing any favour to players they know - prove it and complain otherwise it is just looks like bad grace from you and yours.
Maybe it's all a smokescreen or an excuse for the lack of performance?
Ace_Gaming
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Heck I've finished with all of this thing. All I wanted to do was make aware of what happened and that has been acheieved. I can't help if other people feel the same way and want to add to it. Its freedom of speech at the end of the day and everybody has their own opinion so let them make it as long as its not going OTT.
And it wasn't an unprovoked attack Ben, it just did seem a little bad coming from a well-respected TO like yourself, and giving the current situation it did have to be questioned - thats all (as I am sure you would have felt if someone had made the same comment).
And it wasn't an unprovoked attack Ben, it just did seem a little bad coming from a well-respected TO like yourself, and giving the current situation it did have to be questioned - thats all (as I am sure you would have felt if someone had made the same comment).