The Case for EON Format
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Tyranitar666
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You know what.... I actually have to side with Rand0m here...let me explain...
First off, no, the draw is not what it needs to be, BUT, it is still workable for a few reasons.
The two new search cards are EXACTLY what the format needed. You can now get alot of bench, so you do not get quick losses due to bad draws, adding consistancy. You now have easy access to evos, which is HUGE. Between those two, Delcatty is a near garuntee to hit the board, which effectively gives you 4 cards a turn to draw. So yes, the draw is WORKABLE. I actually like the flow of that better than insane trainers. Still, makes Delcatty overly abusive -_-
Also, the new Baby Pokemon are just awesome, and take the place of trainers alot of times. Those help balance things out. To add on to that, alot of pokemon now have attacks that are extremely effective in this low draw power format.
I would not be against Eon, and I still think its better, but Exxon IS a viable format due to Sandstorm...it will be a different game, but it will work.
First off, no, the draw is not what it needs to be, BUT, it is still workable for a few reasons.
The two new search cards are EXACTLY what the format needed. You can now get alot of bench, so you do not get quick losses due to bad draws, adding consistancy. You now have easy access to evos, which is HUGE. Between those two, Delcatty is a near garuntee to hit the board, which effectively gives you 4 cards a turn to draw. So yes, the draw is WORKABLE. I actually like the flow of that better than insane trainers. Still, makes Delcatty overly abusive -_-
Also, the new Baby Pokemon are just awesome, and take the place of trainers alot of times. Those help balance things out. To add on to that, alot of pokemon now have attacks that are extremely effective in this low draw power format.
I would not be against Eon, and I still think its better, but Exxon IS a viable format due to Sandstorm...it will be a different game, but it will work.
plaidlesspez
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EXon will totally work people. If you guys are so afraid of all those EX's, then just use Wobbuffet! All the cards do have counters. And there are enough trainers to work. Just use Birch, Pokenav, Switch, Potion, Wally's Training, Lunette's Net Search, the fossils, and you'll be fine. And the new babies are good, Wynaut lets you search for any pokemon, Azurill gets trainers, Elekid and Pichu get energies. I think some people are really over reacting. EXon will be lots of fun. Not so much drawing now, so you have to play and make decks a lot more strategically. And you can make any type of deck you want now, because there are so many good cards. There will be no archetypes. This will be a very good thing when Nintendo starts this format...
ukpokemonpro
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Gotta say RSon does not scare me but Exon too many memories of wreaked tankers for me...
Ninon, RSon and Exon whatever it's going to be the future may as well start looking to it now as later...
But hey we are stil Eoning here for a while so carry on campers and roll on OP in October .. which year is yet to be decided but October will do
Ninon, RSon and Exon whatever it's going to be the future may as well start looking to it now as later...
But hey we are stil Eoning here for a while so carry on campers and roll on OP in October .. which year is yet to be decided but October will do
Orange Soda
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ADV3 looks to have 7 trainers in it, so EXon will have at least 22 trainers, though Dragons will probably have some ADV4 in it like Sandstorm, so that number will probably be higher.
I think I'd prefer Eon, though. Bigger card pool is nice (and also, my double-weakness Pokemon are screaming for Weakness Guard.), but if we get EXon, I'll survive.
I think I'd prefer Eon, though. Bigger card pool is nice (and also, my double-weakness Pokemon are screaming for Weakness Guard.), but if we get EXon, I'll survive.
Otaku
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A few points worth mentioning:
For the few people who want LC-on, you must own 4 Mewtwo ex's, cause that is its format. Juggler for draw Power and putting two Psychic Energies into the discard, Scoop-Up for when it's taken enough damage, and Damage Swap Alakazam to make it nearly immortal. As for "Eon", it doesn't get much better. Yes, Mewtwo ex is dethroned, but not by much. Instead of Scoop-Up, Pokemon Nurse revives a mortally wounded Mewtwo ex four times. Crystal Shard allows Mewtwo to get around Resistance, and Weakness Guard to ignore what should be a fatal blow from other Psychics.
For the few people who want LC-on, you must own 4 Mewtwo ex's, cause that is its format. Juggler for draw Power and putting two Psychic Energies into the discard, Scoop-Up for when it's taken enough damage, and Damage Swap Alakazam to make it nearly immortal. As for "Eon", it doesn't get much better. Yes, Mewtwo ex is dethroned, but not by much. Instead of Scoop-Up, Pokemon Nurse revives a mortally wounded Mewtwo ex four times. Crystal Shard allows Mewtwo to get around Resistance, and Weakness Guard to ignore what should be a fatal blow from other Psychics.
JohnnyBlaze
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Yes I agree with Otaku and one more point for serious consideration. With LC we have Muk and Muk will be in any serious Mewtwo-Ex deck just to counter Wobbuffet from Sandstorm.
NoPoke
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Nods... and that is why LC isn't in the UK's Eon format. A mewtwo-ex + lots of energy removal deck is strong enough without assistance from Muk. I never was happy with any of the responses in the thread on a counter to Mewtwo-ex. But Sandstorm gave us Wobuffet *grin*
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Otaku, I have to correct you on what you said. Before Sandstorm, Exon was DOMINATED by bbp's. If you ran Delcatty/Mewtwoex/Magmar ex, you could beat anything 95% of the time except Slaking and mirror matches. BBP's dominated the format.
You guys aren't including Pokenav as search, which it is. It's an excellent card...
Rare Candy helps evolution decks.
The format isn't boring, if you think it is, you've probably only played 2 or 3 games against someone else who doesn't understand the format very well themselves yet. When you have great players who understand the format going at it, it's very fun.
~ RaNd0m
You guys aren't including Pokenav as search, which it is. It's an excellent card...
Rare Candy helps evolution decks.
The format isn't boring, if you think it is, you've probably only played 2 or 3 games against someone else who doesn't understand the format very well themselves yet. When you have great players who understand the format going at it, it's very fun.
~ RaNd0m
HypnosProjectHQ
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Hey Lizard! I agree with you completely and full-heartedly. With the great Pokemon from EX: RS, EX: SA, and the awaited EX: Dragons, and the excellent support of the Special Energy and Trainers in Expedition, Aquapolis, and Skyridge, we'd have an ultimate format.
Still, I'd be ready to just be playing the EX sets. This is Nintendo's game. They make the choices, which sometimes could disappoint us. But... IF they are willing to listen to us, they can make themselves even more money by keeping there customers happy. That'd be great for us and them. Wouldn't it.
I conclusion, Nintendo should go with the EON format, now what they will do though may be completely different. This is not up to us. If Nintendo listens to us kind-hearted souls, they'd be doing themselves a favor. Agreed?
And one more thing---
"Of course 15+ is back. There'll be 15+ at WORLDS." -Someone... forgot though...
When's that?!? I could use some info! Thanks!
Still, I'd be ready to just be playing the EX sets. This is Nintendo's game. They make the choices, which sometimes could disappoint us. But... IF they are willing to listen to us, they can make themselves even more money by keeping there customers happy. That'd be great for us and them. Wouldn't it.
I conclusion, Nintendo should go with the EON format, now what they will do though may be completely different. This is not up to us. If Nintendo listens to us kind-hearted souls, they'd be doing themselves a favor. Agreed?
And one more thing---
"Of course 15+ is back. There'll be 15+ at WORLDS." -Someone... forgot though...
When's that?!? I could use some info!
Thanks!
NoPoke
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Nintendo (PUI) are under no obligation to annouce any format untill we have Nintendo sponsored constructed tournaments.
I hope that Nintendo (PUI) are concentrating on more important stuff than deliberating over a choice of constructed format for major tournaments that are at least 6 months away.
That said its an interesting discussion.
I hope that Nintendo (PUI) are concentrating on more important stuff than deliberating over a choice of constructed format for major tournaments that are at least 6 months away.
That said its an interesting discussion.
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League Leader Terry
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Actually, they've said that tournaments will begin in October, which is why we need to know a format by then.
GymLeaderPhil
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League Leader Terry said:
Please understand the sanctioning does not start until formats are publicly released. Please also understand that most organizers will not know sanctioning is open yet a few days and that there might be a time requirement (example: sanction at least a week in advance). But sanctioned play and formats are coming. Why else would Heidi Craig be holding a Sanctioned Tournament on Saturday, October 18th?
-Phil
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NoPoke
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Under wotc we ended up with two formats for sanctioned play...Limited and constructed.
modified and unlimited were bundled together to give you your constructed rating, just like all the limited formats went towards a single limited rating.
Heidi has to ensure that whatever format is to be played is well publicised but that is all.
modified and unlimited were bundled together to give you your constructed rating, just like all the limited formats went towards a single limited rating.
Heidi has to ensure that whatever format is to be played is well publicised but that is all.
WHOA: just how is Heidi Craig able to get her tourney "sanctioned", if no one else is able to at this time? What is going on here?
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ukpokemonpro
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WHOA: just how is Heidi Craig able to get her tourney "sanctioned", if no one else is able to at this time? What is going on here?
MMM well from my perspective favoritism, a lack of communication, a lack of consultation and general all round mis-management by PUI.
WotC were really bad to Europe but this is laughable, some can sanction whilst others can't some get to see and comment on floor rules whilst others are excluded, some get to make rulings whilst others only look on.
Like I say, mis-management, taking the easy option and favoritism seem to sum up PUI and OP so far!
Any idea what the new reporting software looks like? I guess I better ask Heidi
And by the way this is not a rant against those who are doing stirling jobs taking up the baton and helping PUI it's a rant against PUI cutting a large chunk of experienced TOs and Judges out of the decision making process and reinforcing the US centred view of OP.
Heidi and the Compendium Guys and Gals do a great job for us all but the wider community of TOs and Judges is being ignored here.
MMM well from my perspective favoritism, a lack of communication, a lack of consultation and general all round mis-management by PUI.
WotC were really bad to Europe but this is laughable, some can sanction whilst others can't some get to see and comment on floor rules whilst others are excluded, some get to make rulings whilst others only look on.
Like I say, mis-management, taking the easy option and favoritism seem to sum up PUI and OP so far!
Any idea what the new reporting software looks like? I guess I better ask Heidi
And by the way this is not a rant against those who are doing stirling jobs taking up the baton and helping PUI it's a rant against PUI cutting a large chunk of experienced TOs and Judges out of the decision making process and reinforcing the US centred view of OP.
Heidi and the Compendium Guys and Gals do a great job for us all but the wider community of TOs and Judges is being ignored here.
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