Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

The Hype of Zekrom

baby mario said:
That's not his point. He is saying that the deck doesn't run 8 Basics.

Also, you don't have to Eeeeeek. Cleffa is a free Retreater. If you start with it and Collector/Dual Ball for Zekrom/Pachi/Shaymin, you can still pull off the T1 Bolt Strike.
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Then why not run something with more than 30 HP?
 
Seriously?

Like what?

What Basic free Retreater has more than 30 HP and can be as useful in a pinch as Cleffa?

Please think things through before making these comments. They don't do you any favours.
 
baby mario said:
Seriously?

Like what?

What Basic free Retreater has more than 30 HP and can be as useful in a pinch as Cleffa?

Please think things through before making these comments. They don't do you any favours.
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You could say Manaphy...
But that requires an Energy (which are quite precious in Zekrom) and doesn't have the SSF protection.
 
Manaphy or Jirachi. Jirachi would probly help late game. Manaphy wouldn't be nearly as easy to donk, and if you're in that bad of a pinch you wouldn't mind the energy attachment for the attack.
 
Nintendan said:
You could say Manaphy...
But that requires an Energy (which are quite precious in Zekrom) and doesn't have the SSF protection.
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Exactly . . .

IIRC the only other free retreat Basics with >30 HP are Mew Prime and Sneasel which are even worse.

Rikko145 said:
Manaphy or Jirachi. Jirachi would probly help late game. Manaphy wouldn't be nearly as easy to donk, and if you're in that bad of a pinch you wouldn't mind the energy attachment for the attack.
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Jirachi doesn't have free Retreat.

Manaphy is inferior to Cleffa for the reasons Nintendan explained.
 
Try going to the "TCG Search" button at the top and punching in 0 for retreat and Basic for stage. There are several. I just think Jirachi or Manaphy would be best in this case, if the main purpose is for a free retreater.
 
Out of the 20 searches, 12 of those are baby pokemon and only cleffa can save you a game for free.

I would not recommend playing 1 sneasle or yanma just for free retreat.
 
Wood is right. There is a reason why Zekrom is being down hyped. There is a secret deck that loses hard to Zekrom but is successful against most of the current top tier decks. I have a little bit of inside info from some top players who wanna keep Zekrom down.
 
The only reason I don't forsee Zekrom winning U.S nats, is because there will be a bunch of MagneBoar and DonChamp being played. I don't think we will see too many people changing their decks to the rogue decks that we saw do well in Canada, but we just might see some of those at worlds...
 
TonySandlin said:
Wood is right. There is a reason why Zekrom is being down hyped. There is a secret deck that loses hard to Zekrom but is successful against most of the current top tier decks. I have a little bit of inside info from some top players who wanna keep Zekrom down.
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Mewlock isn't secret if you mean that, it has already been played at German Arena Cups and Canadian Nationals. And btw it doesn't lose to Zekrom that badly if you have the right list.

Thinking there is a whole group of players who tries to keep a deck down is a little paranoid imo. Most players just realized that Zekrom has a weak lategame and bad matchups to MagneBoar, anything with Reshiram, anything with Donphan, most LostGar variants who together make almost 80 % of the predicted metagame. For Canada, it was just coincidence that there were a lot of Yanmega decks and some Mewlock in top cut so Zekrom had some more favorable matchups. It may be that the metagame looks similar for US Nationals, but I'd still say MagneBoar will be the most played deck - it has won all of the five Arena Cups in Germany which are the only other competitive HGSS-on tournaments besides Canada Nationals yet.
 
Oh its definatly not Mew haha. You may not trust or believe in me. I understand but I know of a real threat to many decks. ESPECIALLY Donphan.
 
ZPS is a good deck but it is definitely a weak tier one or a strong tier two, it gets t1 about 75% of the time and up and then falters, it does lose to magneboar and donchamp almost every time but i consider it the deck that could(like the train) it could donk out and win every game and that's b/c unlike MD-CoL most decks are running what 9-13 basics typically, that's less then 1 per start on average, meaning Zekrom can donk, i'll end it there. w/ if it don't get the donk it has huge issues but it could get that donk and could win and could go far.
 
TonySandlin said:
Oh its definatly not Mew haha. You may not trust or believe in me. I understand but I know of a real threat to many decks. ESPECIALLY Donphan.
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Samurott? You best be trollin', boy.
Everyone has tried Samurott and found that it has not only a bad Zekrom matchup, but a bad matchup against anything with Magnezone in it.
 
I don't care who has an SD trying to downplay Zekrom. I'm sure this many people dismissing it do not have an SD. People know it's bad against the meta right now. A lot of people will have different decks at nats. If you say people are just saying it's bad because they don't want to play against it, then that could apply to any thread. It's just being unnecessarily paranoid.
 
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