Slash in the sand
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ludicolous said:
Over run? Ya that will rip me apart, its not like it will take them 8 TURNS to KO Toed ex, and it would only take me 6 turns to KO all 3 of the Arcanine ex. Think about it:wink:
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Over run? Ya that will rip me apart, its not like it will take them 8 TURNS to KO Toed ex, and it would only take me 6 turns to KO all 3 of the Arcanine ex. Think about it:wink:
Slash in the sand
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Prime said:
Thats why you Run out all there reversals, then you bring out your last.
Why do they need reversals again? Arcanine EX's first attack hits any of the benched pokemon for 20. Even if you do come up and KO a Arcanine EX, the 20's will add up, and Politoed EX can't stay active in threat to getting KO'd with 100 damage.
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Prime said:
You don't understand. Ok, lets asume they actually get 3 Arcanine powered up. After there reversals are gone, you power up your Politoed ex. This is what is going to happen. First you will place your Poliwag down and place an energy, and they will do 20 damage. next turn you will place another energy evolve to Poliwirl and they will add another 20 moving you to 40. Next turn your Politoed ex will be ready to to 80 with Punch and Run. 4 turns later your Politoed ex will have 120 damage on it, and they will have 1 more powered up Arcanine. All you do at that point is use Swallow Up to KO the last Arcanine ex for the win. GG, but guys don't think that I'm saying that this deck is a bad deck. T2 Arcanine ex is probably in my opinion 1 of the best decks in todays metagame. there are just maybe 1 or 2 auto loss's, but every deck has them.
Why are the opponent's reversals going to be gone? You laid down 3 poliwags? Well unless you attach to them, no player in the right mind is going to reversal the up and KO them. If they have ANY sense, they will wait until you evolve into Poliwhirl and have 2 energy on it and toss their reversals at it to KO it for 100.
But all this talk is stupid because matches happen in so many ways, it's too hard to predict them.
But yeah, a pretty stupid opponent that wastes all their reversals on unpowered poliwags SHOULD lose to a Politoed EX deck. And I feel Dunsparce by itself can put a lot of hurting on Arcanine EX. Politoed EX might not even be needed in this matchup.
But all this talk is stupid because matches happen in so many ways, it's too hard to predict them.
But yeah, a pretty stupid opponent that wastes all their reversals on unpowered poliwags SHOULD lose to a Politoed EX deck. And I feel Dunsparce by itself can put a lot of hurting on Arcanine EX. Politoed EX might not even be needed in this matchup.
Slash in the sand
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Prime said:
Well so what? ok, so I have to draw out the Reversal by powering up Poliwirl, I will still be one step ahead of them. And you are asuming that all the Reversals will be heads. But your right this is probably going to go no were, lets get back to T2 Arcanine ex and not its matchups.
Thats true LOL.
Seriously, I'd hold all my reversals in my hand. Hit Poliwag for 20, Poliwhirl for 20 more, and then when Politoed EX comes and hits for 80 (hit and run), reversal the thing up, hit it for 100, then let it KO you, finish it up on the bench for 20 more. Both players lose 2 prizes, but one player loses a stage 2 and one loses a stage 1.
Seriously, I'd hold all my reversals in my hand. Hit Poliwag for 20, Poliwhirl for 20 more, and then when Politoed EX comes and hits for 80 (hit and run), reversal the thing up, hit it for 100, then let it KO you, finish it up on the bench for 20 more. Both players lose 2 prizes, but one player loses a stage 2 and one loses a stage 1.
Slash in the sand
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Prime said:
Yes, but thats why the fossils are there, and I would be one step ahead because you are weak, but seriously lets just drop it, it really isn't going any were.
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Slash in the sand said:
I agree. Different people think different things. Whatever you beleive you should stand by. I think that Arcanine is 60/40 against Poli-Stall but that is just my opinion.
PokeMontoya
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Arcy gives poli a run for it money but poli will win through the stadium battle and the fossilss doing their thing and the weakness isss just bad for the dog if your playing a toad player who tries to come at you with a fast toad then K9 should pull it out more often but a controlled toad player who actuallt plays the way its supposed to be then K9 doesnt have much chance
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PokeMontoya said:
That's why I make them come fast KOing 1-2 fossils at the same time.
Also if anyone doubts me show me on apprentice best 2/3.
Tmanplayer21
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Arcanine is a better deck than Politoed even if it doesn't beat it. Politoed loses to LBS, which is one of the most played decks so who cares about Politoed. I think this thread should be redirected to talking about what is wrong with this guys list. It definitely isn't perfected.
Lapras is not a good play, there isn't enough draw, there is probably too much energy, 2 solrocks are needed, Giant Stump is not the play, Masterball is a waste of space. Why no Admin? Are you just going to let your opponent use draw cards all day and build up a huge hand?
Lapras is not a good play, there isn't enough draw, there is probably too much energy, 2 solrocks are needed, Giant Stump is not the play, Masterball is a waste of space. Why no Admin? Are you just going to let your opponent use draw cards all day and build up a huge hand?
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Tmanplayer21 said:
Masterball helps get out what you need. Stump helps my queendom, LBS, and Ludicargo matchups. Lapras helps get an early stadium lock, the consistancy of the turn 2, or to prevent you from being admin'd. I could put in some admin but the list is really tight.
I agree with Tman here.....Your Queen and LBS matchups are already favorable matchups, you have to straight donk Ludi, it's a losing matchup that isn't heavily played, no need to screw your trainer count with a stump. This deck has gotta have Admin, it's a T2 deck with ways to control the game (Lunasol, Overrun).
