Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Werewolf IX (Team Galactic's Plot) ENDGAME AND ANALYSIS!!!!!

YES! Mew, TY for the post. Wolf theory time.

Absoltrainer said:
The group carried him to a high cliff on the other side of the island and prepared to throw him down the 90 ft drop into a watery grave. They heaved him, and he fell down the cliff, yelling out as he fell “CURSE YOU ALL, MY TEAM MAY HAVE BETRAYED ME, BUT TEAM GALACTIC SHALL DESTROY YOU AAAAAAAAAALL!!!!!”
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LifeVirus7 said:
Mew*
sdrawkcab
Lucario EX
Brawler1624
FriedBlaziken
z-man
ARMondak
Kabutops141
Time for Pain
Ryu99
Lakak
HomeofMew
Metricus
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(Edited just to show who voted him, no need for the extra color coding.)

The people who voted for our first wolf, PokePockets. The story mentioned how his teammates abandoned him, and led me to believe the wolves voted him out to look good with the human team. So, I'm thinking that if we're going to look for wolves after debating who's Gyarados, the remainders might be in the crowd of voters.


Brawler, Wolf
z-man, Wolf
Metricus, Wolf

FriedBlaziken died, and card flip shows he's no wolf.

Mew*, I believe to be the pixel barrier Pokemon, like Ryu suggested. Since the pixel protected like a priest, Mew* wouldn't be a wolf.

Leaving these eight from PokePocket's Day 1 lynch.

sdrawkcab
Lucario EX
ARMondak
Kabutops141
Time for Pain
Ryu99
Lakak
HomeofMew

From the death list, we learned of four wolves so far. For a game with this many players, 4 wolves is too few, plus we still haven't found the Alpha wolf. On another forum I play on, the recommended wolf:human ratio was 1:4. It may or may not apply here, but I'll go with the assumption it does.

By that ratio, 1 wolf should be left in 24 players. 5 wolves for 20 humans, and 19 is close enough. Cyrus should be the last wolf by that logic, but that leaves Saturn out of the team. Pluto doesn't count since this game was made before those Platinum details came out. So maybe that ratio isn't right. *enough thinking, I need to get food and others should start to brainstorm*
 
^ I'm not a wolf because the wolves bit me. If you think I'm a wolf, you can't assume Cardz isn't. Just because he said he isn't doesn't matter. He also said Madhatter was a mason and a psuedo-seer.

I sure wouldn't jump on a bandwagon started by someone who doesn't realize Sandslash7 can't be voted for.

I think probably there are 2 wolves left. It is just a recommended ratio.
 
Sorry, forgot you got bit while I was typing that up. Was absorbed in looking through the old posts and forgot that biting part of today.
 
hehe... i like of how you assume my forgetfulness on reading something as a clue.

VOTE: Timeforpain

reason seems plausible.
 
Alright, very interesting night.

Half. Madhatter is listed as a dead town-alligned person in the registry in the first post. Maybe this just means that his town-alligned side is dead and now his killer side is all that is left?

First of all it sucks that someone is a gyarados. Before I used to just search for gyarados in posts and if it was there, I was being talked about. And you know... the whole killing thing.

Second. Sandslash7 is either Pixel or assassin. I think that it is Assassin becuase we all ended up targeting the pixely pokemon night two, and I dont think that everyone used their night roles on Sandslash7. Can someone whose role was revealed to target the pixely pokemon speak up and help out here? You dont have to say which one you were, just whether or not you were one of them and if you roled sandslash7.

Thirdly. Getting back to Gyarados, his whole motives seem to be for revenge. well what if the people that were attacked deserved to have revenge taken out on them? Anyone that has played the game knows that it takes time to evolve a pokemon. With Magikarp it seems to take even more time since he doesnt have real attacks. Ive posted before about pretending to have roles that you dont really have. Ive even played along with that game with my "sponsered by" sentances at the end of my posts. I think that if a pokemon was going to take revenge on people, it would go for those who almost killed it. Only one person left alive has had more than 2 votes put against them, and that person would be... does anyone remember? Mew*. Almost killed during day1 (we almost killed Pokepockets, Cardz changed it around, we almost killed mew*, then we killed pokepockets) Lakak and Cardz were both injured during the night and both voted for Mew* on day one. I am not sure if the gyarados player was able to decide who he was going to attack, in fact, I doubt that he was. But someone was. And that person was Absoltrainer. I dont think it would be very fair for absoltrainer to just decide who he was going to attack and almost kill. He had to base it off of something. Maybe he chose Lakak and Cardz and then all the people that were connected to them through night roles, and then all the people that were connected to them as well (explains how three different places were attacked (open field with pure of heart, Lucario's conversation, and the Pixely place))

I very much so beleive that Sandslash7 is the assassin that killed metricus, if he is the assassin, I can imagine that he is not going to like it very much that I and others are calling him out, however I am more afraid of what the wolves are going to do to the people who voted for Sandslash7 while pretending to be Vigilantes. Can the wolves change the way that they kill people? I would imagine that once the person with a gun dies, that they wouldnt be able to kill that way anymore, just like how their victim doesnt get shocked anymore(cause we killed jason/brawler) So if the people with the barriers want to help out either Azure Kite or sdrawkcab, Im sure they would appreciate the notion.

Well thats all I got.... except for this:

VOTE: MEW*

Thats right, Im getting in the game. I would vote for sandslash7 but Lucario turned him invincible apparently. Not cool, but necessary becuase otherwise we would not know that he is a vigilante.
I do realize that the makes me seem like gyarados since before I never voted for anyone, and now I am going on the aggresive, but I dont really care. But that doesnt mean Im not gyarados, I mean Im not, but you shouldnt believe everything that you hear.
 
Man, you guys make me feel so stupid and unstrategic with your big posts.....:frown: Even more good points in this post. And to back up your Sandslash7 theory, he knows Metricus from league, so maybe he wanted to kill him just to mess with him....interesting. But what you say makes perfect sense, that Mew* must be Gyarados. Lets see if this'll work....

UNVOTE: Sandslash7(Because I have to...:frown:)

VOTE: Mew*

Oh, and I suppose protection would be nice, assuming the priest decides not to protect Cardzmaster2004...
 
Lifevirus7: I haven't posted because there has been no information, now I have a question for you, why not put the other 3 people in your post? Why just me and lakak?
 
Dang forgot. The request at the end of my post to defend sdrawkcab and lifevirus was assuming that those two barriers could be put on other people and that they were still usable.
Do not forget so easily that the powers that hve been so far unstoppable were shattered last night. Gyarados is strong and is not to be messed with. I suggest that today's votes are spent trying to destroy gyarados as he posts the most threat, a random one. (much like random voting hmmm.....)
Also is shadowzangoose still playing? He is still "alive" as far as no one has killed him. His last post mentioned interent troubles, so I would understand him not posting, but Absoltrainer has not said anything about it like he did the first two times. Roles speak louder than roles I suppose. Maybe the biter? Maybe Lucario? Pretty much just anything besides detective hopefully, and if he is the detective, he needs to be helping us out.
 
The injured:
1) Lakak
2) Mew* (I'm agreeing with Ryu's theory about Porygon gibberish)
3) Sandslash7 (Gyarados got to his discussion with Lucario, and can't be in two spots at the same time)
4) LifeVirus7 (I'm not gonna accuse myself of being a Gyarados, but everyone else can if they want)
5) TimeforPain
6) CardzMaster2004 (He's not, for an unsaid reason)
7) Madhatter (He's dead, and shown to not be Gyarados)

Process of elimination left you two.
 
First off: Absol you ninja me'd I'm almost POSITIVE that wasn't in your post when I asked if I could vote for him...then again I was posting at 5 in the morning....
Also, we still don't know if the it in the pure of heart barrier was a pokemon or a human...can you clarify for us? (See my post above)

LifeVirus: Theres a flaw in your post about Cardz not being the pixilator...The pixilation never happends to someone else...it has only every happend for the pokemon using the pixalating ability....
So I wouldn't classify that role as being a priest role protecting others as its ONLY EVER protected it self......if you look at night 2 (post 192) this quote shows you that the pixilation is COMING from the pokemon being targeted....
....who was attempting to stalk this Pokemon get frustrated and thwarted by the pixilation and electronic garble that had just been emitted from the Pokemon they were watching.
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A self-protecting ability....so cardz is still my top suspect for being this role.

As for mew*, I can see how adding trash to his posts could equal using thrash....but its still along shot....Personally I rather vote for Sandslash7, I'm sure he's glad he's gone for the day. (I'm also sure he'll be targeting me tonight >.<) I still think the gibberish is something Mew's just doing to screw with everyones mind...

Mew*, You're therory on gyarados wanting revenge for specific events is interesting, however it seemed as tho he just attacked whoever he saw until everyone was hurt....that is until he killed onix....

Lifevirus: On the wolf topic in regards to having his team betray pokepockets, we already know that all 3 of the dead wovles voted against their friend in the first day...I don't think theres a guaraentee that the 5th wolf falls in the list of people left who voted for pokepockets.....(its possible, but unlikly imo) However, I havn't heard from Kabutops141 or homeofmew...neither seem to be participating much....could but the wolf with the gun....

Lakak: your forgetfull might not be a clue, but it shows how little you seem to care....and we all remember what happen to jason for not carring....

Shinning: As mentioned above, your gyarados is interesting, and a possibility...I'm just more inclinded to think gyarados wanted to smash everyone and everything in its sight whether the did anything or not...

So overall...we KNOW (at least 95% sure on this one) the sandslash is the assassin and should be killed tomorrow...

Our current threats: wolf(ves) and Gyarados as an indipendent..
As far as I can tell I don't have any leads on wolves...so that I guess we should vote for gyarados while we can?

From my first analasys where those found beaten
:
1) Lakak
2) Mew*
3) TimeforPain
4) LifeVirus7
5) Sandslash7 (assassin)
6) CardzMaster2004 (pixilator: I havn't seen any evidence to point otherwise)
7) Madhatter (He was beaten up then killed by the wolf with the gun)
So we're left with Mew*, Lakak, Lifevirus, and time for pain as the Gyarados...
The REALLY BAD thing about this vote is we've got 25% of hitting Gyarados, 25% of hitting the seer 25% hitting the the pure of heart barrier and the rest is some randomguy....25% villiage guy 50% useful role! 25% GOOD KILL!

Well I guess we don't have much choise then to take the risk?
Lakak you're posted have rarely been helpful, most of the time your voting/bandwagoning without really reading the story line....
so this is where I say you are the weakest link, good bye! (congrats on lasting this long! :p)

UNVOTE: SANDSLASH7

VOTE: LAKAK
 
LifeVirus: Theres a flaw in your post about Cardz not being the pixilator...The pixilation never happends to someone else...it has only every happend for the pokemon using the pixalating ability....
So I wouldn't classify that role as being a priest role protecting others as its ONLY EVER protected it self......if you look at night 2 (post 192) this quote shows you that the pixilation is COMING from the pokemon being targeted....
Quote:
....who was attempting to stalk this Pokemon get frustrated and thwarted by the pixilation and electronic garble that had just been emitted from the Pokemon they were watching.
A self-protecting ability....so cardz is still my top suspect for being this role.
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backwards i dont quite understand your logic
as we all pretty much know alot of roles targeted cardz night 1 which came up as a flop coz he was protected by the pure of heart barrier - the pixilation thing sounds totally different
and to be perfectly honest i dont think the majority of the town would of been stupid enough to target him night 2 however there is one character that might of been a point of interest, who is mew* as jason and brawler tried to start a bandwagon day2 saying they knew something but we ending up chucking jason over the cliff however it would make sense to me that a number of people would of targeted him nite 2 to try and find out why they wanted him lynched - so the whole pixelated barrier and the pure of heart barrier are two different things on two different characters - and with the gibberish at the end of mew*s posts aswell as a high possibility he was the main role target nite 2 that would leave me to believe that mew* is the pixilator pokémon
meaning your list would prob want to read something like this
From my first analasys where those found beaten
:
1) Lakak
2) Mew* (pixilator)
3) TimeforPain
4) LifeVirus7
5) Sandslash7 (assassin)
6) CardzMaster2004 (protected by barrier ... again)
7) Madhatter (role: Gary)
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so that leaves a 1 in 3 vote to find the Gyrados
 
UNVOTE: Timeforpain

VOTE: Cardzmaster

He seems quite important to be protected twice, maybe he's working both people that protect him?
 
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Wow, Lakak's vote is very strange. And notice that the Gyarados tried to kill Cardz during the night.

VOTE: Lakak

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OK, I'm gonna make this post shorter than my previous ones since I think we've covered all the relevent poitns for today. My big post was going to be on who was targetted and what roles they have, but the best (and most accurate)list posted so far IMO has been:

LifeVirus said:
1) Lakak
2) Mew* (I'm agreeing with Ryu's theory about Porygon gibberish)
3) Sandslash7 (Gyarados got to his discussion with Lucario, and can't be in two spots at the same time/Assassin)
4) LifeVirus7 (I'm not gonna accuse myself of being a Gyarados, but everyone else can if they want)
5) TimeforPain
6) CardzMaster2004 (He's not, for an unsaid reason)
7) Madhatter (He's dead, and shown to not be Gyarados)
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So, we have three unclaimed roles above: the Priest, Gyarados, and Mason with Detective (pretty sure the file person is our Mason. I also agree with the town religion that there is one remaining Wolf. Tomorrow night should tell this to us.

Of the above, I have the most difficulty voting for LifeVirus tonight. He's posts have been intuitive today and, even if he is leading the town astray a bit, I think he can survive for one more day. LifeVirus, you will need to think of a reason why you are note Gyarados tomorrow if we do not hit him today. Is this understood?

My gut instinct is that Lakak is Gyarados. My reasoning for this sucks quite a bit, and he can disprove me if he wants, but he hasn't really given me a reason to. Lakak has had a history in this game of NOT making it to Day 2. Ever. This is the first day he's made it this far, and he's done an OK job. Until I noticed a slight pattern today.

@ Lakak: Is there a posting restriction on your role? If so, please let us know. If not, please defend yourself as not the Gyarados and state why TFP is the real Gyarados.

If, in fact, there is a posting restriction on Lakak's role, I would surmise that this has to do with his Raging and exhaustion from last night. It also may come from being a Gyarados and being tired as well. Lakak is someone who has been seeking revenge for past wrongdoings in WW games. I think that the his role may be his chance at revenge. he's had a little taste of it now, and I also think we need to stop it now.

Since it is clear to me now that the Detective is not in the short-list of people in the 7-person, I am also fine with Lakak being voted of, as it is highly unl****ly we'll hit a helpful power role. However, our discussion has inadvertently exposed some power roles, and this could GREATLY hurt us tonight.
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Since we do have a list narrowed down to who the indies are, I think we can also pretty well direct the town's investigations tonight.

The Seer and the Detective: We need to be POSITIVE on the roles of Sandslash7, TFP, and LifeVirus. To that end, I suggest that the Seer investigate the allignment of TFP and the Detective investigate the Role or Sandslash7. I am almost positive Sandslash is our Assassin, but double checking would be a wonderful thing.

Usually, at this point, someone would nail me for "leading" the detective and Seer. In all honesty, I'm putting as much info out as I can today, because I'm not sure how much longer I am for this game.
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My list of Wolf/Indies Suspicions(in order):

--Sandslash7
--Lakak (my guess @ gyarados)
--Shadow Zangoose (not posting a lot, even with weather reason, and is usually MUCH more vocal)
--Kabutops141 (See Shadow Zangoose)
--homeofmew (for playing a fairly sloppy game thus far, and for no good reason)
--ARMondak (See Shadow Zangoose, but I know he's been busy with other stuffs lately)
--Ryu99 (not particularly Wolfy, but puts out little comments every so often the spur the town in different directions. Interested mostly in why he chooses these specific times to say something...)
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Permanent Directions to Priest/Protector: If they ever end up having to expose themselves, protect the other Priest/Protector first, then the Seer, then the Detective. I give this direction unless someone claims they need protection for other reasons (see myself).
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That said, I think we're gonna have to take a pretty big gamble tonight and try and retain as many villagers as possible. And when I say gamble, I mean...

...I'm putting my life on the line.

Priest: You have a choice tonight.

1) Protect me (again).
2) Protect another person who we are POSITIVE is a Townsperson. Mew* springs to mind automatically for me.

The reason I give you this choice tonight is that I need to get a chance to use my role. I evolved long ago (and, no backwards, I am NOT the Pixilator. That role belongs to another user whose name I only mention in hopes of protecting them.), and my role has already been claimed for me (this time, it actually WAS claimed and was not me bluffing someone into claiming it for me). If I do not use my role tonight, the town could greatly suffer. However, making it difficult for the assassins to know if I am protected or not could throw off their choices siginificanly. But I leave you with this final instruction: Please remember our tests earlier, 'cause they mark everything. Do this.

That said, I have one bit of business left to attend to. here it is.

VOTE: Lakak

Reason: Suspicion over recent random voting. Not contributing siginificantly to the days.
 
Mew*'s gibberish might not mean anything. Think about it. Madhatter, ShinyGyarados, and DFB all posted gibberish. Only one was an actual role. Posting nonsense seems to have convinced you all that Mew* is townie, so it would be the perfect cover for a wolf or independent.
 
The only reason it has convinced me is that it is consistent with role-creation that I've seen in the past. DFB missed a post once and did not receive a warning. The same is true of gyarados. And it only makes sense. If, however, you are not convinced, I will try and fix this tonight.
 
Cardzmaster2004 said:
The only reason it has convinced me is that it is consistent with role-creation that I've seen in the past. DFB missed a post once and did not receive a warning. The same is true of gyarados. And it only makes sense. If, however, you are not convinced, I will try and fix this tonight.
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I suggest that you look at post 167 in which mew* has no gibberish at the end of his post, and recieved no warning, if you are looking for consistency. Also I would like to point out that Unique role does not mean that they are not a wolf. I would not have guessed that there would be a brother pair where one person was a wolf and the other was a Roleblocker.
 
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