I think what he meant was very few would "follow my lead", not necessarily about whether they thought my post was good or not. This is something that I have noticed, but it doesn't really bother me. I am not necessarily saying you are included, but I have seen more than a few people stand behind the likes of Jpulice, and Diaz much more readily than most.
Werewolf xvi the rise of team plasma: Town wins
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I think what he meant was very few would "follow my lead", not necessarily about whether they thought my post was good or not. This is something that I have noticed, but it doesn't really bother me. I am not necessarily saying you are included, but I have seen more than a few people stand behind the likes of Jpulice, and Diaz much more readily than most.
Pikamaster
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I'm not protecting Diaz, I'm disagreeing with your idea. Diaz very well could be a wolf, but based on what you've said and the arguments you've presented (and those words and arguments ALONE, regardless of whether this is your first game or your fiftieth game), I feel there is no reason to lynch him. And I will verbally disagree as to create discussion. I still don't think we have any need to increase pressure on Diaz, not for now.
Now you're just being rude. If you haven't noticed throughout all the WW games, a good idea is a good idea, regardless of the player it comes from, and we don't ignore someone because they aren't a "vet". To put it quite simply, get over yourself. And when you lose the sarcasm and rudeness, you'll find that people don't disregard you because you're arrogant/rude/self-important/whatever.
King Piplup
Active Member
Redados-2 Hours to answer my question, or I'll drop my vote. It is extremely important you answer.
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JewelQuest
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I second this.
Cantor, this is my second game(if you count coming in halfway as a replacement in the last game as my first) and yet everyone is not disregarding everything I say, now are they? I have no idea what got you so wound up about the whole 'vet thing', but you need to take a chill pill here.
Napoleon, I don't think that revealing a powerful role is gonna do us much good. He/she could be independent, or he/she could be town. Either way, it looks like a seer role. We reveal this person's identity, we've basically given the wolves a free seer to kill. Or, if we priest him and the priest role-blocks(which I find highly likely), then we've basically lost the seer role and the use of a priest. This is NOT good.
Scott, I thought you said you'd be back by now? Hello?
Akane and Darthpika, you two have also seemed to have dropped off the face of the earth.
Redados1
Member
AWhao. I am way too busy for this game. If i survive this day ill request to be replaced. I havent been contributing cause i cant. Youright, i am the correct lynch, and im not helping the town at alll. Im way confused with omega and wifom and stuff.
Kp, i am magical, but not lotr. I didnt want to say cos it sounds suspicious, but its the truth
If u do lynch me, lmk so i can roleflip
Ttyl
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Kp, i am magical, but not lotr. I didnt want to say cos it sounds suspicious, but its the truth
If u do lynch me, lmk so i can roleflip
Ttyl
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King Piplup
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King Piplup
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Originally his answer was that he was not a wizard or from the LOTR universe. I had reason to believe he was magical. Hence I made sure he admitted to being magical before crusading against him (Which was fortunate), and apparently since he admitted to details sbout his role, my logic fails.
See ou situation?
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First, you are protecting diaz. Posts 546, 581, 1267, 1269, 1283, and 1287 have as their basic premise Diaz not getting lynched. Call it thinking lynching Diaz is a bad idea, call it whatever you like, it is still coming to his defense.
Your basic points for thinking it is a bad idea come down to:
1. But he is a good player
2. You are a newb
3. He stopped lying
4. There was positive outcome for what he did
You claim that one and two are being read into your posts by me, so ill ignore those as you claim they aren't your arguments.
Him stopping lying has nothing to do with him doing something that is undeniably wolfie. There is no purpose for lying that cannot be gained by doing something else that is not good for the wolves. Look at it this way should we not lynch the guy contradicting the seer because....hey he stopped all right?
Napoleon has already dealt with consequentalist ideology in his post. Ends justify means is no bueno. Furthermore, the ends he supposedly achieved, creating discussion could be achieved much more effectively through different means. Napoleon also addressed this.
I apologize for it seeming like I was being sarcastic or rude, that was not my intent. I am truly sorry for writing something that might have been taken that way. I was intending on being absolutely serious. His play of pressuring R1 was a good idea, and I would have joined in with it because of his reasoning except that I was already predisposed in pressuring Diaz. However there are many people who should have assisted him in pressuring the people who are not speaking to speak, yet him doing that has garnered nothing. If anything him pressuring R1 has been basically ignored. What reason is there for this? He stated his reasoning clearly and I think that everyone can agree that speaking is good. There are many people who have not used their vote. The only reason left is that they did not pay attention to him due to him being "non-vet".
Sounds like another excuse to me. Please request to be replaced TODAY so that I don't have to spend votes trying to get people to play the game. I am sure if you request a replacement NOW, it may help us decide on a better candidate.
Redados1
Member
Becausr
Read day one of xv. Read how it ended. If aam doesnt get my pmbin time, it doesnt help us. I still want the town to win.
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King Piplup
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Please paraphrase what happened day one of XV instead of sending me there. I will fact check after you explain what that means.
It doesn't matter WHEN you get replaced, I just don't want tomorrow to come when you survive, and say something to the effect of, well I am better now and can start to shape up so I don't want to be replaced. If you are serious about being replaced, make the request now to prove it isn't a last ditch effort to survive. You have posted well above the inactive limit to force your replacement, so it must be voluntary.
IF you want the town to win, why are these statements contradictory?
You say you are the correct lynch, yet if you are town it will hurt us when you die. How is that helping the town, which you want to win?
Furthermore, if you want the town to win, proving that you mean what you say (as far as replacement goes) is the best way to help the town to win.
Can anyone please explain to me how saying that you are magical clears you of being scum? In my eyes, this is even MORE vague than saying you are a Gym Leader
I realize that you cannot explain, so perhaps KP will offer more insight.
Being attacked by the wolves, short of death does not prove anything. They will do anything to appear town, including using roles against their own to make claims exactly like the ones you are making.
It may be a point to help your argument, but cannot be used as an absolute.
Arcanine/Arbok Master
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Hello players!
I see redados1 has requested replacement and will be working to make that happen asap.
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I see redados1 has requested replacement and will be working to make that happen asap.
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King Piplup
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It's dangerous for me to reveal more, but Redados1's magical stuff is true. He has magical powers. I'm very sure he is town/indie, but not 100% confident.
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