Werewolf xvi the rise of team plasma: Town wins
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PokeChampofPokeBeach
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@ KP:
Great post, I read all of it and didn't really disagree with anything (even the stuff against me).
Well, honestly I'd be dead right now if it weren't for the role-reveal. That is my only saving grace in a slew of errors and sloppy play.
You will note that before I voted Scottistru, in a previous I listed reasons as to why I thought he was suspicious. When I voted for him I did not re-post these reasons, but they were still valid. I voted to place pressure on him because of the reasons I had previously stated.
But on the point of Backwards, I agree, that was an awful play. I agreed with jpulice's post but I shouldn't have bandwagoned. That was my first instinct, actually. The reason I did this was because someone in the thread said threatening to vote later was ineffective and dumb. This is what I would have done, this is what typically do. But to spare myself from looking any dumber than I already look this game, I tried a different tactic and it did not work. I realized my error and took back my vote after Backwards explained himself.
I know a lot of my plays are looking bad. I can only say my role-reveal is completely true. Aside from my role-reveal, my actions this game have been indefensible. My play has been very sloppy and I apologize for that.
Great post, I read all of it and didn't really disagree with anything (even the stuff against me).
Well, honestly I'd be dead right now if it weren't for the role-reveal. That is my only saving grace in a slew of errors and sloppy play.
You will note that before I voted Scottistru, in a previous I listed reasons as to why I thought he was suspicious. When I voted for him I did not re-post these reasons, but they were still valid. I voted to place pressure on him because of the reasons I had previously stated.
But on the point of Backwards, I agree, that was an awful play. I agreed with jpulice's post but I shouldn't have bandwagoned. That was my first instinct, actually. The reason I did this was because someone in the thread said threatening to vote later was ineffective and dumb. This is what I would have done, this is what typically do. But to spare myself from looking any dumber than I already look this game, I tried a different tactic and it did not work. I realized my error and took back my vote after Backwards explained himself.
I know a lot of my plays are looking bad. I can only say my role-reveal is completely true. Aside from my role-reveal, my actions this game have been indefensible. My play has been very sloppy and I apologize for that.
King Piplup
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We need to get the thread onto a new page so we can actually scroll down to the bottom of the page without going through that :tongue:.
Also, I advise against viewing that post via Tapatalk, as it will crash the app. Trust me, I tried.
DarthPika
New Member
I had a little time to post yesterday, but that's ending pretty much today until next Monday when I'm done with hell week. As I said before, I defended Diaz, since I would much rather see someone like PM (who is STILL playing horribly) get lynched than someone like Diaz, who I know very well is capable of good logical play. That's not to say that he shouldn't get lynched later if he tries something else weird. The main thing is to lynch those who are random voters, and easily swayed by other posters. I did not feel that Diaz would be someone easily influenced by someone else, therefore, he was not worth lynching on day one. The most dangerous players for the town are those who blindly follow others, and I stand by that.
ultimatedra
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It was asked if there was a character limit, and I answered his request. Wanted to ensure he knew so he could play to win.
Absoltrainer
Active Member
Did you mean "not town?"
King Piplup
Active Member
Sensing you have a hidden impediment having to do with battling and a competitive spirit. Anyway, thanks for clearing that up.
Absoltrainer
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bump for KP sefsefsef
King Piplup
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Need to add the last read stuff...
Last read:AT's bump
That's what I meant, sorry!
Last read:AT's bump
That's what I meant, sorry!
JewelQuest
New Member
Right now I am torn in between Scott, PM, and SS7 for the lynch. Scott is acting jumpy, SS7 is possibly Saruman the White, and PM's playstyle is just...wrong.
However I shall keep my vote for Scott as of now. PM's play could just be because he is new, and it is possible that the 'crystal ball' wording does not have anything to do with SS7's role at all.
Scott didn't play like this last game, he was reasonable(From what I can remember) and didn't jump all over the place. I believe that he is more likely to be a wolf then the other two, though I may end up mistaken.
However I shall keep my vote for Scott as of now. PM's play could just be because he is new, and it is possible that the 'crystal ball' wording does not have anything to do with SS7's role at all.
Scott didn't play like this last game, he was reasonable(From what I can remember) and didn't jump all over the place. I believe that he is more likely to be a wolf then the other two, though I may end up mistaken.
PMysterious
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@AbsolTrainer: You do have a point that Sandslash7 is Saruman the White. If Saruman is a wolf, then it's too obvious to lynch him instead of some of the other threats.
Vote: SandSlash7
Reason: He might be a werewolf and we need to get rid of all wolves.
Vote: SandSlash7
Reason: He might be a werewolf and we need to get rid of all wolves.
Barkjon
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I was honestly considering QFT'ing your post... but decided against it
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sdrawkcab
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KP said:
I feel I did that fairly well here:
All the accusations against me was for "potentially revealing a seer". My rebuttal to that is there no reason for anyone to reveal someone else as a seer, wolfs would keep that information to themselves as to not attract the attention of the priest. Independent kills roles would do the same. A non killing independent role wouldn't point out the seer because they wouldn't be able to sway to town to vote for him if they thought he was the seer. And of course the seer wouldn't reveal themselves (with such an odd clue) unless they had a bunch of information on people or was at risk of being killed.
When asking if SS7 was a seer the questions was pretty much rhetorical, the answer would almost always be no. And if it were yes, it'd be the worst role claim I've ever seen. I don't get why this is so hard for people to see.
King Piplup
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I was honestly considering QFT'ing your post... but decided against it
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, well it doesn't actually even load the page in Tapatalk anymore sooo....Sorry Akane/Other users of it.
Makes sense, thanks.
Benzo
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SS7 has used the word "red" the most in his postings, and used it as a highlight color the most. This might hold some signifigance- so, researching LOTR.......
Also, I am again going to say that If Gandolf the gray gains a bonus, what is there to say that Surnum(?)( which ever one SS7 is being said to be)-- also will get a bonus or has allready recieved it? (bonus= second effect, new ability, ect...) and is it posative or negative? Uhg, I will rethink/reanalize this and get back on it.......
so, back to middle earth researching.........
@PF5- You twist the wording of a Question I used towards Ulti to make a point and use that against me to raise suspicion onto me? Really? Well, observe this next "I will change my vote to please myself for the better of myself vote change:
Unvote: sdrawkcab And the momentarily "pressure is off"
I would like to take the time to re-read KP's posting. And alot of other postings as well. I do not make "scatterbrained votes" IMO, nor do I need to jump around in my votes, and I allready explained my voting , uh, "playstyle/pattern/logic- I relieve my "pressure vote", I do not think it to be a big deal personally- view it however. But I would look at people who chose to add into the "pressure" vote a bit more closely. A way to hide and sluff off with a reason to vote with another person's "pressure" vote.
I do think that there is a "King" in this game, as I have already mentiond Chess reference in one of my postings. (a "self" mental note with in the posting) Seeing LOTR in this (which is rather shweet blend-in) and 2 wizards, (1 deceased and one "claimed) there is a good chance that a Human King is in this game as well. I have noticed something, and, I will relook into what I believe to be the hint that get's my attention. I will post my findings if valid.
Alot in this day to look over, expect some more from me after I review/re-read everything
Last but not least: Vote: Redados1, I am sticking to my theory, since I am undecided on a vote but trying a plan- this comes as contradictory/catch 22 but whatever. All I can say is that votes are somehow important for Juplice and I hope it is a posative thing. If it is negative- Juplice is on my lynch list then. So, grill me about this vote for a player who might get replaced or has no evidence against him, just dont have a solid satisfactory convincing on who needs to be voted for atm is all.
Also, I am again going to say that If Gandolf the gray gains a bonus, what is there to say that Surnum(?)( which ever one SS7 is being said to be)-- also will get a bonus or has allready recieved it? (bonus= second effect, new ability, ect...) and is it posative or negative? Uhg, I will rethink/reanalize this and get back on it.......
so, back to middle earth researching.........
@PF5- You twist the wording of a Question I used towards Ulti to make a point and use that against me to raise suspicion onto me? Really? Well, observe this next "I will change my vote to please myself for the better of myself vote change:
Unvote: sdrawkcab And the momentarily "pressure is off"
I would like to take the time to re-read KP's posting. And alot of other postings as well. I do not make "scatterbrained votes" IMO, nor do I need to jump around in my votes, and I allready explained my voting , uh, "playstyle/pattern/logic- I relieve my "pressure vote", I do not think it to be a big deal personally- view it however. But I would look at people who chose to add into the "pressure" vote a bit more closely. A way to hide and sluff off with a reason to vote with another person's "pressure" vote.
I do think that there is a "King" in this game, as I have already mentiond Chess reference in one of my postings. (a "self" mental note with in the posting) Seeing LOTR in this (which is rather shweet blend-in) and 2 wizards, (1 deceased and one "claimed) there is a good chance that a Human King is in this game as well. I have noticed something, and, I will relook into what I believe to be the hint that get's my attention. I will post my findings if valid.
Alot in this day to look over, expect some more from me after I review/re-read everything
Last but not least: Vote: Redados1, I am sticking to my theory, since I am undecided on a vote but trying a plan- this comes as contradictory/catch 22 but whatever. All I can say is that votes are somehow important for Juplice and I hope it is a posative thing. If it is negative- Juplice is on my lynch list then. So, grill me about this vote for a player who might get replaced or has no evidence against him, just dont have a solid satisfactory convincing on who needs to be voted for atm is all.
Scottistru
New Member
Ugg, away for one day on a plane and come back to this. Here we go again.
Responses to KP:
Please explain how this is at all a scumtell, not just that you think it is. Be logical and explain why.
Not taking a stance is a scumtell because it is the absolute best thing a wolf can do(although lurking unnoticed could be argued better). By standing on the middle ground, the don't look wishy-washy when they choose the lynch that furthers their agenda. However, if they come out voting for someone, they can't switch wagons to town as easily, or they would be called out for vote hopping. Wolves do not want to be me, so the are essentially stuck on their first vote if they don't stand the middle ground. Sure, town is going to do it sometimes, but isn't that true of every tell, such as lurking, lying, etc.
I've got to say, I’ve heard some interesting theories related to posting in this game, but this one is definitely up there. Please don’t include pointless info, as it just clutters the game up.
I would agree with you wholeheartedly, except I don't think it's pointless info. My past self didn't think those thoughts for no reason, and to me it feels like having another player's opinion to look back on. Sometimes I doubt myself, and leave out stuff I really shouldn't, so I prefer to post too much rather than too little, just so I can look back later with new evidence to see when I was right.
Backing up from your accusation, taking more of a neutral stance? Sounds like something you were calling everybody you’ve voted for out on. Explain.
Honestly, I don't know what I was thinking. I had remember him for some reason as defending Diaz, so when I made my case, I used that to draw my conclusions. Fr some reason, I drew the wrong conclusion about connections, and I was stupid enough to try and justify them, digging myself into only a deeper hole.
The point was invalid, and I drop it as any future evidence against sdrawkcab, on the grounds the my brain was malfunctioning when I posted it.
Finally, why all the links to images that aren't actually to images?
Ok, I guess I misinterpreted your post, I was under the impression that after your vote you developed your suspicions. I will have to go back and check that.
I'm really not buying SS7's claim right now. In the last game, all the jedi regained their memory at the same time. In this game, it doesn't really make sense to have cabd know himself, yet you not, especially because it seems cabd had to kill you to gain a role. Also, are you refuting the color impediment or not, because that is yet another piece of evidence against you. Give me a reason to remove this vote.
Vote: SandSlash7
Responses to KP:
Please explain how this is at all a scumtell, not just that you think it is. Be logical and explain why.
Not taking a stance is a scumtell because it is the absolute best thing a wolf can do(although lurking unnoticed could be argued better). By standing on the middle ground, the don't look wishy-washy when they choose the lynch that furthers their agenda. However, if they come out voting for someone, they can't switch wagons to town as easily, or they would be called out for vote hopping. Wolves do not want to be me, so the are essentially stuck on their first vote if they don't stand the middle ground. Sure, town is going to do it sometimes, but isn't that true of every tell, such as lurking, lying, etc.
I've got to say, I’ve heard some interesting theories related to posting in this game, but this one is definitely up there. Please don’t include pointless info, as it just clutters the game up.
I would agree with you wholeheartedly, except I don't think it's pointless info. My past self didn't think those thoughts for no reason, and to me it feels like having another player's opinion to look back on. Sometimes I doubt myself, and leave out stuff I really shouldn't, so I prefer to post too much rather than too little, just so I can look back later with new evidence to see when I was right.
Backing up from your accusation, taking more of a neutral stance? Sounds like something you were calling everybody you’ve voted for out on. Explain.
Honestly, I don't know what I was thinking. I had remember him for some reason as defending Diaz, so when I made my case, I used that to draw my conclusions. Fr some reason, I drew the wrong conclusion about connections, and I was stupid enough to try and justify them, digging myself into only a deeper hole.
The point was invalid, and I drop it as any future evidence against sdrawkcab, on the grounds the my brain was malfunctioning when I posted it.
Finally, why all the links to images that aren't actually to images?
Except you're doing it again. You once again try to draw suspicion by saying you weren't the only one. You're letting the vets take responsibility for your actions, and trying to get away because the vets said it was a good idea.
Ok, I guess I misinterpreted your post, I was under the impression that after your vote you developed your suspicions. I will have to go back and check that.
I'm really not buying SS7's claim right now. In the last game, all the jedi regained their memory at the same time. In this game, it doesn't really make sense to have cabd know himself, yet you not, especially because it seems cabd had to kill you to gain a role. Also, are you refuting the color impediment or not, because that is yet another piece of evidence against you. Give me a reason to remove this vote.
Vote: SandSlash7
King Piplup
Active Member
Don't have time to read your post in detail right now, but those links are apparently what happens if you copy paste quote code and then put it back. The little button should be there to go back to the location. Instead it just shows a weird link.
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baby mario
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Dammit, I know nothing about LOTR. I don't think I've ever managed even to sit through one of the films.
The suggestions that Sandslash is one of these wizard blokes seems convincing, and not hearing from him on the subject is a little worrying.
Can we get a vote count please?
The suggestions that Sandslash is one of these wizard blokes seems convincing, and not hearing from him on the subject is a little worrying.
Can we get a vote count please?