waynegg
CotD Editor<br>Forum Moderator
This is what I said was unproductive and argumentative. Because it is. Either that or I must have forgotten the English language. So please, explain to me how this...
says this...
Your other questions I have previously answered. Go back and read them. I'm not going to repeatedly answer the same question for every TLDR player in the game (goes for you too PikaJewel) only to have my words twisted or mischaracterized because I phrased things a bit differently the second time around.
And then this...
There is no if...
That's exactly what you did...
One last point I would like to point out to you before I'm done...
Why do you think there's a wolf there? Vablakes probably has a Suicidal role (look it up if you aren't familiar), which is likely non-wolf. Why on God's green earth would a wolf not jump at the chance to kill off not one, but likely two, town roles by finishing out the vote and ending the day with a lynch followed immediately by a spontaneous combustion of another non-wolf. That makes no logical sense. It would be much more likely to have EVERY wolf in the game on the vote list for Vablakes.
Since VB revealed, the priest (yeah, I think our priest ties people high up on the castle battlements to protect them, the drawback of said protection being that the player is sidelined for X number of turns) was probably like 'O crap, I can't let 2 possible townies die for the price of one' and voila Vablakes gets a view from on high.
I stand by what I said. We should investigate the results from the gambit I played. It, historically, works. True some experienced players don't like this particular gambit, but it doesn't take away from it's validity. You can find the evidence for that in not only Cabd's guide, but in many online guides to playing mafia scum, as well as in the first game where I played it a bit differently and set everyone on Diaz instead of myself. We got 3 out of 7 wolves from that play. Without strategy, you just have posts like 1077 and 1137. Just saying.
Here is another question you decided to fly past. Which is the safer play? Vote you early on, or just wait around to see how the dust settles and get a vote in when you are actually looking like you are going to be lynched? Or just plain not vote at all and force the town into another no-lynch?
says this...
How exactly are my questions argumentative and unproductive? Oh wait, if anyone voices opposition to your ideas it's argumentative and unproductive amiright? I couldn't be offering a differing viewpoint to try and actually get the to the truth... I do like how you again skirted my questions again with an answer entirely unrelated. I didn't say every wolf voted for you, and I didn't even say that you said that. What I said was that it isn't extremely likely that 1 or even 2 did. I even provided why I think it wasn't that likely. Which you claim was argumentative and unproductive. .
Your other questions I have previously answered. Go back and read them. I'm not going to repeatedly answer the same question for every TLDR player in the game (goes for you too PikaJewel) only to have my words twisted or mischaracterized because I phrased things a bit differently the second time around.
And then this...
If all I have been doing is random finger pointing and trying to pressure people to flip, then all you have been doing is acting like scum, so why should I follow a scum-leader? See how that works?
There is no if...
{lot's of other stuff, see actual post}
PMysterious, Shinori, Pokemonrocks777, HomeofMew, Chanman, Jason, AAM, Desfunoc, sheepbro, and Levity were all at least one post or one PM active, but chose to not vote.
There is a good chance at least one if not more in this list are wolves/anti-town factions.
I only had to ISO the first candidate (PMysterious) to see that D1 he screamed "LYNCH SOMEONE" while withholding his vote D2. He probably was faking it D1 to look like town, which is why his sentiments didn't carryover into D2.
VOTE: PMysterious
{And some more stuff}
I think I am inclined to side with Eclipse on this one. Now that PM's role is confirmed, I can't really see it being a role given to a wolf.
UNVOTEMysterious
Going down my list. Shinori was generally pretty active D1 and more than willing to throw his votes around. One post D2. We need to figure out if he just plain quit, if he just got bored, or if he is a wolf hiding out.
VOTE:Shinori
Shinori, its time you spoke up.
That's exactly what you did...
One last point I would like to point out to you before I'm done...
PMysterious, Shinori, Pokemonrocks777, HomeofMew, Chanman, Jason, AAM, Desfunoc, sheepbro, and Levity were all at least one post or one PM active, but chose to not vote.
There is a good chance at least one if not more in this list are wolves/anti-town factions.
Why do you think there's a wolf there? Vablakes probably has a Suicidal role (look it up if you aren't familiar), which is likely non-wolf. Why on God's green earth would a wolf not jump at the chance to kill off not one, but likely two, town roles by finishing out the vote and ending the day with a lynch followed immediately by a spontaneous combustion of another non-wolf. That makes no logical sense. It would be much more likely to have EVERY wolf in the game on the vote list for Vablakes.
Since VB revealed, the priest (yeah, I think our priest ties people high up on the castle battlements to protect them, the drawback of said protection being that the player is sidelined for X number of turns) was probably like 'O crap, I can't let 2 possible townies die for the price of one' and voila Vablakes gets a view from on high.
I stand by what I said. We should investigate the results from the gambit I played. It, historically, works. True some experienced players don't like this particular gambit, but it doesn't take away from it's validity. You can find the evidence for that in not only Cabd's guide, but in many online guides to playing mafia scum, as well as in the first game where I played it a bit differently and set everyone on Diaz instead of myself. We got 3 out of 7 wolves from that play. Without strategy, you just have posts like 1077 and 1137. Just saying.