Well, good job wolves (again) and outlaws. You had me fooled (you know I am sarcastic about this). Anyway, reading the game showed how terrible our meta is at this current time. The person who I disliked the most in this game was jpulice. I mean, he was such a cool guy BEFORE this game, then the Veteran Virus corrupted him and got himself modkilled for no reason. Let's compare THAT to TheKing in WWXVI.
King: Was Wolf, did a strategic play, utilized the rules doing so, actually made sense to do.
jpulice: Was Town, did it during the night, rage quitted.
See the difference? Sadly, I see the difference and I am not even a vet of this game yet (well, I don't consider myself one though a certain person who I called out as a wolf before I died said I was). Anyway, I think the game WAS a little flopsided to the wolves. To add insult to injury, DarthPika was GUARANTEED to survive this game no matter how the game went if cabd is telling the truth.
The reason for such a big game was because there were a lot of sour grapes when players failed to get into LEX's last game, as well as AAM's recent game. Neither LEX or I wanted players to have to wait months to get into the next game. Obviously a smaller game would have been better because of the inactivity mod kills, but there's the reason why for the large game
JewlelQuest said:PMysterious, I'm afraid that you are part of the 'attitude-problems' in this game. You threw a HUGE hissy-fit when you were about to be lynched, and though you apologized, it was too late to take back the hurtful things you had said. Your obsession with putting down Vet-Reverence has completely capitalized your playstyle into Newb-Reverence, and that has got to stop, for the better of the game.
May I ask why you would say this? I HAVE been trying to stop. The one thing I hate is pressure. When pressure is put down on the table, I end up overreacting. I TRY to avoid pressure, but my big mouth ends up getting in the way. Anyway, I try to be active if I can, but I suppose I should just shut up more often before my mouth gets in the way again. Anyway, I'm NOT trying to bring in Newb Reverence as we know how THAT would go. (Seeing as the opposite has already happened). Also, my reply screen is glitching up, so I might have to sit out the next game to try and get this resolved.
Hawk - IMO it was so obvious you were scum, but honestly I either
A) Didn't care
B) Couldn't post or
C) Both
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You get a cookie for making sure to stay alive.
This. 110% this. It was like a free day seer every lynch. And if had back-pedaled on the whole infinite uses thing, well, there you go, LaLI LOL'ed at this comment made post-game .
STRATEGY-TIP
Ya'll townies should have lynched DarthPika every single day and used him as a pseudo seer if you had any doubt about him being a wolf. Anyone that didn't die from his redirect would have been confirmed not wolf, and anyone who did die, well you get the role-card .
Great game Wolves, and thanks a lot Pikamaster/LEX for running the game! Besides messing up my role and the whole flipping Wolf part of it, the game was really enjoyable!
AT has what he believes to be a good case against Vegi. I do not have a problem with him stateing his case, even though it is on the aggressive side and he is sticking to his guns on it- I would like to see what Vegi has further to say before I comment on the matter. I think though that AT could wrap it up into a single post on his case against Vegi and should leave it at that for the time being. Vegi has yet to reply/post, I think he deserves a bit of a chance to speak more, so I do not believe he needs another vote to know that he needs to defend and clear things up.
I do see a little bit of what AT is saying, it is his read/findings that he is entitled to, just not enough yet for me to be sold on that AT is correct in all of his readings against Vegi.
@Tables:
As I have stated before, I was not nit-picking at your words to single the words out and take them by grammaticle manner to be extreme by definition- I thank you for being consistant in your style and mannerism. I simply wanted to test your personality and playstyle, and to get a better reading on you and have that chance to get clarification as to your intentions, as people do many tacticle things that are not so obviouse to the normal. I am not really of the normal, so, my inquiry to your wording and as to why it stuck out as odd to me.
UNVOTE: TABLES
Reason for the unvote: I may not be 100% satisfied with his further replies as to how he has worded them, (or the previous post's from him) but I think for now he has shown to be at least consistant in attitude and playstyle.
I do hope though Tables that you do see the reasons behind as to why I was on your case. I belive if you were in my shoes and got the read I had, I am sure that you would act on that read just as I have.
@Prohawk: To me, nit-picking can go both ways as to whether or not it is effective. I think the difference is how it is used, like look at my read against Tables. I was not nit-picking, ( at least I do not believe so) or trying to use a word dictionary definition to make a point- people do not understand each other the same (not a tomato, tomoto thing) but a communication difference. If you believe a person says something that could have alterior motives or hints at something, in a way nit-picking can be of help as it is intnetions are to get a better understanding. If you use nit-picking to continue to grill a person agressivly, then maybe it is not the best factor of stratgy for the situation to determin if a person is just plain speaking with talk that is "relaxed" (like, hay bro, how's go'n?-- which a person could nit pick back with "I ain't your "bro" and what do you mean by how's what going? and just not letting up.)
I know I would not like to get burned for just trying to speak without having every word I say nit-picked to death, that has happened to me in other games- and the person who did that was a wolf. Now, if it were the case of like my level of posting activity that I was getting grilled for, i will say that being a Mod that approximatly 1/3 of the time I come onto the site I have time for other things besides, thus I would not want a player to continue to bombard me with nit-picking as to my level of activity, as per another example for the nit-picking thing.
Heck, I would love to have more then 1/3 of the time I log in to play, but there is a specific order that I do like to do things on here. Unless someone wants to PM every member on here to tell them to behave while I play-
I would be shocked if it were that simple to be able to communicate with everyone on the same level of understanding, or I would be in deep water if I couldn't at least ask for clarification.
Since I did touch on the issue of aggressive play- I am a bit undecided on AT's play right now. I will look through again when I have time to analyze it all.
My thoughts on Crimsonsky:
A little bit to quick for my taste to hint like that so soon, but it is his play and risk. I do think that perhaps it has a side effect on him as well, so unless he has a way to be offensive with his role- it could be a gamble. Any other thoughts on Crimsonsky?
@Pokeplayer101:
Glad to see you add a little bite to your bark, please keep it up.
@PMysterious:
There is quite a bit more going on other then taking the time to continue with an open-ended possible reasons as to why 3 people got replaced. I agree with the pressure votes to get you to talk, and there is plenty of time to speak up.
I would like to see some of the not yet to post players speak up as well, I know busy is busy but at least a quick thought on something going on in here (which there is plenty of) please.
@Diaz:
Linking people can happen with little to a few words - like, 2 poeple vote for the same person= easy for anyone to pop in with "OMG, buddy-buddy going on between so and so)- I do agree to an extent, but only that because it is day 1, and linking is so minimal right now-- but later on in the game, linking connections is better off IMO since there is more irreversable actions that can be analyzed to make possible connections.
@Kayle, #484 ,
#3 I can understand. I am in the same spot on this as well.
@Rhino- still a bit on the suspicious list from me, yet I do want to go back and read through some things. I will do so, and time wise I do believe i can reach a conclusion to my read, we'll see. There is plenty of higher suspicious activity other then you, but be aware that i am still considering you suspect.
This is all I have time for right now, I do await for some more postings in order to give those who have not posted a chance to do so, as hopefully they provide some insight. Sorry for the long post, like I said time wise this is what I got.
I actually figured that whoever through a vote down first was highly plausible to win.
I knew i shoulda done that.
Also my eclipse read. Gdi.
May I ask why you would say this? I HAVE been trying to stop. The one thing I hate is pressure. When pressure is put down on the table, I end up overreacting. I TRY to avoid pressure, but my big mouth ends up getting in the way. Anyway, I try to be active if I can, but I suppose I should just shut up more often before my mouth gets in the way again. Anyway, I'm NOT trying to bring in Newb Reverence as we know how THAT would go. (Seeing as the opposite has already happened). Also, my reply screen is glitching up, so I might have to sit out the next game to try and get this resolved.