RMysterio863
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im just starting and im wondering what would be the best kind of deck to start out with im thinking leaf and water but im not sure
what would be the best kind of deck to start with
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Burninating_Torchic
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try buying a preconstructed theme deck or two to get a feel for the game first...
DarkLordSigma
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LudiCargo is the deck these guys are referring to. It uses Ludicolo ("Swing Dance", EX Deoxys) and Magcargo ("Smooth Over", EX Deoxys). Some variants also utilize Lanturn (EX Hidden Legends) as techage. Its a fairly inexpensive deck to build, and can teach you plenty about playing.
If you're JUST starting, you can try picking up a Preconstructed deck and play with it. Unfortunately, PTCG Precon decks aren't the best in the world...compared to the decks you can buy for other games. You could try picking up one of the World Championship decks. Although the cards aren't legal for tournament play (as in, you can't include the cards in a tournament deck), the deck itself can be a great place to start learning.
If you're JUST starting, you can try picking up a Preconstructed deck and play with it. Unfortunately, PTCG Precon decks aren't the best in the world...compared to the decks you can buy for other games. You could try picking up one of the World Championship decks. Although the cards aren't legal for tournament play (as in, you can't include the cards in a tournament deck), the deck itself can be a great place to start learning.
If you're an absolute beginner at the game, the EX Trainers Kit (with Latias/Latios) is the best deck to buy, IMO.
One can learn the game basics with no status effects to consider, then combine the two decks into one. All the cards in the deck are still modified-legal, also.
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One can learn the game basics with no status effects to consider, then combine the two decks into one. All the cards in the deck are still modified-legal, also.
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Moss Factor
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Buy Jeremy's world's deck, its REAL easy to play, OH burrrrrrrnnnnnnnnnnn!!! Actually in all honesty its quite straitforward, just build guys and attack. The only real tricks in the deck is when to use milotic. Obviously you can't be a total DUNCE with it, and there are subtleties, however one should be able to grasp the general concept of the deck even as a beginner.
Ludi seems complicated, damage manipulation, smooth over/swing dance tricks, the deck isn't that easy to play. Another easy deck would be basically anything turn 2, if the other player can grasp the Jirachi/Swoop combo.
And I don't think this needs to turn into a thread describing the general strategies behind every deck in the game. Just name the general title for a deck, and he can look for a list in the decks forum. If he has strategy questions on a deck, he can ask that deckbuilder (or others reading it) for help.
Honestly I think that giving someone a precon doesn't even help them that much. Their draws will be inconsistent, the games will lack focus, and because they're playing with a precon they'll probably lose. Give them a tournament-quality deck with a win-condition thats easy to grasp (rock lock and green heal would be a bad idea, for example) and let them figure out the nuances of the deck on their own. You can't read a book on how to swim, sometimes its best to just jump in the pool.
Ludi seems complicated, damage manipulation, smooth over/swing dance tricks, the deck isn't that easy to play. Another easy deck would be basically anything turn 2, if the other player can grasp the Jirachi/Swoop combo.
And I don't think this needs to turn into a thread describing the general strategies behind every deck in the game. Just name the general title for a deck, and he can look for a list in the decks forum. If he has strategy questions on a deck, he can ask that deckbuilder (or others reading it) for help.
Honestly I think that giving someone a precon doesn't even help them that much. Their draws will be inconsistent, the games will lack focus, and because they're playing with a precon they'll probably lose. Give them a tournament-quality deck with a win-condition thats easy to grasp (rock lock and green heal would be a bad idea, for example) and let them figure out the nuances of the deck on their own. You can't read a book on how to swim, sometimes its best to just jump in the pool.
i would suggest buying a theme deck, yah.
perhaps the unseen forces one with typhlosion? you cud pick up a few packs/do some wheeling dealing and get another couple of typhlosion and build a deck with him!
if you're talking which "archetype" (a deck that lots of people play due to its synthesis and ability to deal good amounts of damage) to build- for beginners... hmmm.... can't think of one really! ludicargo is hard to learn (smooth over and swing dance as sed before can be tricky) but the cards are far easier to get hold of compared to zapdos ex for example.
of course it totally depends on what cards you have mate. post those and we will help more!
hope that's helped a little
perhaps the unseen forces one with typhlosion? you cud pick up a few packs/do some wheeling dealing and get another couple of typhlosion and build a deck with him!
if you're talking which "archetype" (a deck that lots of people play due to its synthesis and ability to deal good amounts of damage) to build- for beginners... hmmm.... can't think of one really! ludicargo is hard to learn (smooth over and swing dance as sed before can be tricky) but the cards are far easier to get hold of compared to zapdos ex for example.
of course it totally depends on what cards you have mate. post those and we will help more!
hope that's helped a little
david0925
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As many have already stated, buy 1-2 Pre-Constructed theme decks to get a feeling for the game. Then start reading card lists and incorporate your own ideas into the deck. After that, feel free to post it on Deck forums and we'll be glad to look at it
Of course, playing the decks extensively is the only way to get better
Of course, playing the decks extensively is the only way to get better
cattdreams
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if you dont really know all the rules and so forth, then yeah, a starter deck or two is a good way to go, perferably, 2 starter decks and a friend so you can both play something that's about equal. if you know how to play, and are already in a leauge (I strongly suggest joining a local leauge, it's a great place to play, practice, and get ideas) buy a few packs of the same set, be it deoxys, unseen forces, fire red, leaf green. etc. look through what you've got, and what looks like the most fun to you, and start building around it. the reason I suggest buying packs of the same set when you start out, is that you'd be more likely to get pokemon evolution lines that match. try to match your first few packs to whatever starter deck you may start with. if you started with a team rocket starter deck, then buy 3 or 4 team rocket boosters, then you can start improving and customizing your starter.
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CardRaider
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Save up all of your money and then spend them all on Ebay. :thumb:
ryanvergel
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'leaf and water'
I think he is an absolute beginner, take SD_POKEMOM's advice.
I think he is an absolute beginner, take SD_POKEMOM's advice.
Moss Factor
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I still don't see how playing a crappy deck helps a beginner. Someone explain this to me.
You may not understand the intricacies of a tournament-caliber deck, but at least the deck has a point. You can start to see how the cards work together (because the cards actually DO work together), and it will be great practice getting your head in shape for playing.
Starter decks are just made so someone can blow like $10 and be able to play if they want. Honestly I don't think it helps you learn to play better, if anything, it stunts your growth.
Someone explain to me why starter decks are better for someone learning the game.
You may not understand the intricacies of a tournament-caliber deck, but at least the deck has a point. You can start to see how the cards work together (because the cards actually DO work together), and it will be great practice getting your head in shape for playing.
Starter decks are just made so someone can blow like $10 and be able to play if they want. Honestly I don't think it helps you learn to play better, if anything, it stunts your growth.
Someone explain to me why starter decks are better for someone learning the game.
I have to disagree. My girl started out with the Fire Red Starter kit, and for a while she ran that as is with the only added Articuno ex. And, I might add, it actually did good!! Then after she got the hang of it, I helped her modify it to focus on the Charmander line (since that is her favorite Pokemon of all time.). Now it's a Charizard / ex / Blaziken deck. (Yeah, it's not now modified legal, but she doesn't care... she doesn't play in tourney's anyways.). Anywho, if it wasn't for the starter kit, she wouldn't have really gotten hooked into it as much as she did.Moss Factor said:
Its true though, learning with decks that aren't going to help you in the long run may actually be a hindrance. IMO its better to start with something effective but not to its full potential than something totally ineffective. It'll let you get to grips with actual gameplay mechanics that you'll need to learn anyway.
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