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Who is going to use the invite for Worlds and who is playing LCQ (Masters division)

Rainbowgym

Rainbowgym

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From the day the announcement was made "no trickle down", I wondered what impact this might have on Internationals attendance.

I think there will be less International players really attending, due to high costs and the long trip.

So if you know you are going and are in the list, just respond please.
The list is not yet final because the UK and Norway results are missing.
So the invites AFTER place 45 might chance.
I am pretty sure at least 3 players will move up into that top 50.

It might look good on paper to have 50 ranking invites, but the truth is some people get doubles.
In the most worse scenario if all National topcut players ended up into that top 50, we only have 5 rankinginvites.
But this is not happening, but I will try to trace how many "double" invites are lost.

While in the past years, due to the "Opt out" option we had a wide field of players from several countries, I doubt this will be the case this year.
However I can be wrong, so I would like to find out but only for Masters.
Seniors and Juniors are hard to trace, sorry.

T= Trip winner from Nationals or Worlds 2009
I =Invite from Nationals topcut
N= Not attending
A= Attending

From what it looks like now 17-6 , 19 player out of 50 will get a double invite--> 31 left for ranking only players.
How many of those 31 will use it?
(Invites from Nationals are settled, so it would also be nice to know who of those without a trip will be attending)
Update June 21
23 out of 50 will get a double invite -> 27 left for rankings only.


EUROPE 50 rankinginvites without passdown (20 last year with passdown)


Updated on 14 July (final rankings for invites)

T/A = 1 David Booij
T/A = 2 yasmin kiss
3 kevin de mooij
A = 4 Steffen Eriksen
T/A = 5 David Sturm
A = 6 Denny Falls Rodriguez
I/N = 7 Marc Lutz
A = 8 Karl Peters
I/N = 9 Anna Schipper
I = 10 Caron Christophe
T/A = 11 alessandro cremascoli
12 Steven M
T/A = 13 Sami Sekkoum
I/A = 14 Simon Eriksen
T/A = 15 Miguel Garcia
I/A = 16 Matteo Laici
T/A = 17 Helga Helskens
A = 18 Tomi S
19 Khanh Le
A = 20 Tom Hall
I/A = 21 Lorenzo Pieri
N = 22 Martin van der Vis
A = 23 Arco Oliemans
T/A =24 Nicholas Fotheringham
A = 25 Marco Escher
I/N = 26 Alberto Ceolin
27 Marco Brandão (I think this is the Nationals winner from Portugal)
T/A = 28 Sami Gustafsson
T/A = 29 Stephan Nørregård
A = 30 Lars Andersen
31 Vanessa Duflot
A = 32 Morten Gundesen
T/A =33 Frederic Lesage
34 Cetin Yildirim
35 Andreas M
36 Chrisowalantis A
I/A = 37 karl blake
38 Tord Reklev
39 Kristel Helskens
N = 40 Robin Gimbel
N = 41 Björn Reinsdorf
N = 42 Vesa Hovinen
I = 43 Rudolf H
44 matthew gabriels
45 Aurélien D
I/A = 46 Steffen Sandberg From
47 Tobias Thesing
N = 48 Esa Juntunen
A = 49 Luca Clavadetscher
I = 50 manuel b
51 Fabian Wiebe
52 Finn Looft
N = 53 Alessio Parcianello
A = 54 Lia van Bemmelen
N = 55 Andrea Ceolin
56 Dennis Mischitz
57 timm grandpair
I/N = 58 Rasmus Mellanen
N = 59 Martin Káninský
60 NOIR (Finland Nationals invite winner?)
I = 61 Planard Florent
62 Alessandro Costa
I/A = 63 Ryan Tur
T/A = 64 Ondrej Hus
I/A = 65 Ian Elliott
I/A = 66 Petri Tommila
A = 67 Martina Canto
68 Faisal Khan
69 Nicolas H
N = 70 Pavel Kolarik
71 Frans G
T/A = 72 Hampus E
73 Matti Kettunen (translator for Finland)
74 Sebastian Koziol
75 NOIR (Germany)

I/N = 76 Hans Klijn
I/N = 93 Dusan Minárik
I/A = 100 Andy Stone
I/N = 139 Riikka-Lotta Pehkonen
T/A = 146 Matthias Michel
T/A = 191 Daniel Cohen
I = 333 Rainer Kalman
I/A = 712 Patrick B
I = 1393 Geert V

APAC 10 rankinginvites no pass downs (4 last year)


T/A = 1 shaun chang
A = 2 daniel engeler
T/A = 3 Yee Wei Chun
A = 4 Peter G
N = 5 Charlie Paterson
I/A = 6 Sean Takemoto
A = 7 Alan Jack
A = 8 Joey Forster
9 Tiffany Keane
10 Steven Mason
A = 11 Jason W
12 Kylie Chua
13 Cameron Rowe
14 Not Opted Into Rankings master Malaysia 1656.59
15 Not Opted Into Rankings master Malaysia 1656.02


European Masters trying to "grind into Worlds"
Italy
Martina C.
Denmark
Jan H
Monja H
Brian E
Lone E
Michael F
Niels B
Susanne A
Netherlands
Lia van Bemmelen
Maurice M.
Gawein Wagner
Tristan Wagner
Finland
Terhi Kettunen
Joni Kivimäki
Janina Kivimäki
Switzerland
Philippe C.
Rafael P.
Jonathan L.
United Kingdom
Stephen Kish
Germany
Sebastian Hayen
Czech Republic
Jindrich Nepevny

APAC players who are trying to "grind into Worlds"
Australia
Jason W
Marcus R


I assume all of the trip winners will attend, I will color those players who confirm they are really going.

Can't find players in ranking
4th place Austria
2nd place Sweden
To check final rankings APac.

Notes to self
2008 Location : Florida, 20 Invites available from ranking, 26 invite winners in top50, 3 NOIR (trickle down to seat?)
2009 Location : California, 20 invites available from rankings, 20 invite winners in top50, 11 NOIR (trickle down to seat 54?)
2010 Location : Hawaii, 50 invites available from rankings, 23 invite winners in top50.(27 actual available for rankings)
 
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Martina C. will attempt the LCQ because actually she is not in the top50.
I still don't understand if refused invites are lost and added in the grinder or pass down.
 
from Denmark in Master:
4 Steffen E (A) Top 50, I hope
13 Simon E (I/A)
30 Lars A (A) Top 50, i hope
29 Stephan N (T/A)
32 Morten G (A) top 50, I hope
45 Steffen F (I/A)
242 Morten H (I/A)
From Denmark in LCQ:
Jan H
Monja H
Brian E
Lone E
Michael F (me :))
Niels B
Susanne A
in Senior:
Peter L (T/A)
Jonas E (I/A)
in Junior:
Jesper E (I/A)
Markus H (T/A)

Total 18 players from Denmark.
 
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No they will not pass down, and I do think it hurts for the European players.


I will try to make a list of those who are attending the grinder, but do I need to add from which country?
 
From what I've heard the reason for no pass downs is so that they can figure out earlier exactly how many invites they will have for the Grinder, so I would imagine most will go there.

Also, they gave us more trips this year because they took away pass downs, so it should work out roughly the same.
 
DJGigabyte said:
From what I've heard the reason for no pass downs is so that they can figure out earlier exactly how many invites they will have for the Grinder, so I would imagine most will go there.

Also, they gave us more trips this year because they took away pass downs, so it should work out roughly the same.
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Nonsense, they will know the invites for the Grinder not earlier than when all invitees registered, which is at the day of the LCQ/Grinder.

And who got more trips? We didn't.
 
DJGigabyte said:
From what I've heard the reason for no pass downs is so that they can figure out earlier exactly how many invites they will have for the Grinder, so I would imagine most will go there.

Also, they gave us more trips this year because they took away pass downs, so it should work out roughly the same.
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Nonsense, who is this guy
 
The number of invites for the grinder depends entirely on how many people reply yes or no to other invites.
If they no passdowns they only have to go through the process once to work out the number of invites.

With passdowns, they then have to send invites to others after taking into account who already have them.

And last year I believe that Europe had 25 ratings invites, this year we have 40. And since there's probably going to be around 15 people who have invites from last eyars Worlds or this years nats then we have about the same overall.
 
DJGigabyte said:
The number of invites for the grinder depends entirely on how many people reply yes or no to other invites.
If they no passdowns they only have to go through the process once to work out the number of invites.

With passdowns, they then have to send invites to others after taking into account who already have them.

And last year I believe that Europe had 25 ratings invites, this year we have 40. And since there's probably going to be around 15 people who have invites from last eyars Worlds or this years nats then we have about the same overall.
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You really don't know what you are talking about.
Passdown meant all persons opting out of rankings (NOIR) didn't receive an invite along with those who got them from Nationals, and that way almost none was lost.
And it's not really to difficult to find out who got an invite at their Nationals, if we can figure it out, they can.
 
Well I definatly remember reading that it was to make thing easier in relation to the grinder.

Also, would you care to reply to the second part of my post, regarding the more invites? Since a few posts back you seemed pretty certain that we didn't get extra....
 
DJGigabyte said:
Well I definatly remember reading that it was to make thing easier in relation to the grinder.

Also, would you care to reply to the second part of my post, regarding the more invites? Since a few posts back you seemed pretty certain that we didn't get extra....
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Perhaps you have read that, but the questions is: Is that true?
If you followed some discussion here on Pokegym, you would have a different impression.
The pass down was never a problem untill some NA players started to do difficult about it.
Europeans never made a problem for years to opt out, to give others the options to play Worlds.
The problems started when NA players wanted to do the same, and found out Europeans are less selfish.
Whole discussions about who "deserves" to go. bleh.
There is a Dutch word for it, but I can't translate it.
However for my "feeling" that was also a reason to do it the current way.


So yes it's easier to send out invites the way they do now. Just take nr 1-50 from list and send invite.
Wait to who shows up at LCQ (knowing that a lot of people get 2 invites and several will not be able to attend due to high costs).

And about more invites, yes we have 50 ranking invites compared to 20 last year.
But it's different. 20 of those 50 are already "taken" by Nationals winners.
But that could also have been 49 taken.
When the remaining Nationals are uploaded we will see.
 
Hey,

this is Luca Clavadetscher and i've lost my invite from Nats as i'll probably end at place about 55.

And that is really sad cause i'm sure to go to Hawaii since my cousin won the Nationals in Juniors.

Hope they will change the rule so that more Europeans can attend, else this changing is worse than last year!
 
Luca, is Switzerland not uploaded yet?

But I can put you into the "grind in from Europe" list if you drop down in rankings?
 
Currently, it looks like UK, Norway, Switzerland, Malta, New Zealand, and Slovenia are not uploaded. The last 3 don't seem to have a National Championship officially Sanctioned yet.
 
From Finland Masters:

Sami Gustaffson will of course use his travel award.
Tomi S will use his invite.
Vesa Hovinen won't use his invite.
I won't use my invite.
Rasmus Mellanen won't use his invite.
Petri T. will use his invite.
Matti Kettunen will be the Finnish translator.
And Jouni L would come if he had an invite, but won't be coming since the invite don't pass down.
Also, Riikka-Lotta Pehkonen won't use his invite from Nats.

Masters grinding in from Finland:
Terhi Kettunen
Joni Kivimäki
Janina Kivimäki

Hope that helps.
 
The tournament file may have some problems like in the Uk so they're correcting it but i don't expect to be in the top50 anymore sadly so yeah you can put me in the LCG list instead... along with my bro and 2 other masters coming with us.
 
I think I saw somewere Slovenia Nationals were cancelled.

Oh I hate this current tournament locator, so hard to find exactly what you need (unless you have a lot of time)

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luca said:
The tournament file may have some problems like in the Uk so they're correcting it but i don't expect to be in the top50 anymore sadly so yeah you can put me in the LCG list instead... along with my bro and 2 other masters coming with us.
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Do you have names for me.

I want to make it a very colorfull list.

GO Europe.
 
Okay so Swiss Masters playing LCQ:

Luca C. ( i prolly have lost my invite)
Philippe C.
Rafael P.
Jonathan L.
 
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