lilgroudon
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I believe that pokemon is better than yu-gi-oh because we don't play the same decks every year. i mean who would like to see LBS, Powdacham and metanite over and over again.
Would you support a banlist?
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Kayle
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So removing Luxchomp and allowing the huge mass of slower stage 2 decks to take the field for a while would be less unique and harder to predict?
iDonkedYou
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if you run four Garchomp X and Luxray X you cant get them out.
There already limited to atleast 3.
The_Legend
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I know what you mean and I would never want that, it would ruin the game
iDonkedYou
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If poketurn is broken so is Super Scoop Up.
Because poketurn is an auto heads for only SP pokemon.
but SSU can be used for any pokemon and therefore can be in more decks.
If you think Poketurn is broken then SSU is one of the most broken trainers of all time.
Because poketurn is an auto heads for only SP pokemon.
but SSU can be used for any pokemon and therefore can be in more decks.
If you think Poketurn is broken then SSU is one of the most broken trainers of all time.
baby mario
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See?
This is only a thread about supporting a banlist in theory and it has already turned into PokeGym's 947th 'Luxray and PokeTurn are broken' argument.
1. I suspect that removing Luxchomp would simply mean that slow decks get dominated by fast Stage 1/2 decks (Donphan, Kingdra, Gyarados, Pluff)
2. What's so great about slow stage 2 decks anyway?
This is only a thread about supporting a banlist in theory and it has already turned into PokeGym's 947th 'Luxray and PokeTurn are broken' argument.
1. I suspect that removing Luxchomp would simply mean that slow decks get dominated by fast Stage 1/2 decks (Donphan, Kingdra, Gyarados, Pluff)
2. What's so great about slow stage 2 decks anyway?
I have no issues beating all that jumpdosdrachamp junk with "slow" decks, non at all. I just hate it when games end before I even had the chance to do something because everything I had got torn to pieces cause my opponent just had that hand / flipped doubleheads with initiative. I enjoy long games and hate it when games end t2 / someone just has to mop up a few basics.
Scipio
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This sentiment I agree with. Its why I support a ruling change that goes like "You cannot use an attack/power/trainer/supporter on T1 that would affect your opponent's field/hand in any way". Goodbye donks.
Because this years rotation botheres the winning decks so much and other decks who lost their single best card (dol) will surely do better new
This years rotation is like a claydol ban anyway
Pokefreak96
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well with rotation you know you'll never be able to use old cards anymore...
The problem with Limiting Pokemon is that there's so much SEARCH in this game that you're basically just paying lip service, and Limiting Trainers would oftentimes just turn drawing into them into lucksacking.
No, it's a bad idea. The occasional ban might be warranted here and there if a particular card is seriously out of control but PCL likes to print counters to overpowered decks/cards in future sets. Vileplume and Spiritomb are actually examples of that, since they shut off a large proportion of the SP decks' engine, the only problem being that SP decks can run a card that shuts them off too.
I'd like to see a Stadium card that says something like "Pokemon-SP cannot use any Poke-Powers or Poke-Bodies, and get -20 HP."
And this is a GOOD thing, not a bad thing.
Pokefreak96
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i just got back into the game wen UL came outr so wat r SP'S
Denjin Hadou
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SP Pokémon (Special Pokémon) are sort of like the Gym Leader Pokémon that were released in 2000 or so. What's great about them is that they have a great support engine that makes them incredibly effective.
TheDoctor
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*Wipes dust off suit*
Anyways, it requires a flip to successfully activate.
Luxray and Poke Turn aren't broken.
Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon are COMPLETELY different games.
Pokemon wouldn't work with a ban list, even a semi/limited list wouldn't work, it just isn't the type of game that could work well with it. Rotation is the best way to go.
Well, as long as we're talking about "Luxray is broken *goofy laugh*" that Sableye SF is every bit as broken. Supporter first turn? Check. Donk Potential? Check. Disruption from the underworld? Check. So don't just hate on Luxray, hate one Sableye too.
I'd also like to point out that really SP in general is pretty broken in the coming format. If any card deserves to be banned, it's Cyrus's Conspiracy. That alone would even the playing field between Stage 2 decks and Sablelock and LuxChomp.
Stage 2 decks lost their engine, to balance the game SP needs to lose theirs.
I still don't like a ban list though, I just mean to say take out the card that actually makes Luxray/Sableye extremely hard to beat.
I'd also like to point out that really SP in general is pretty broken in the coming format. If any card deserves to be banned, it's Cyrus's Conspiracy. That alone would even the playing field between Stage 2 decks and Sablelock and LuxChomp.
Stage 2 decks lost their engine, to balance the game SP needs to lose theirs.
I still don't like a ban list though, I just mean to say take out the card that actually makes Luxray/Sableye extremely hard to beat.
Fatherfrog
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i actually played crapgioh for years and got in the tops spots in the beginning shonen jumps and won a straight 10-0 at every prerelease i went to and was a level 3 judge then konami stole it from UDE thinking it could be a steady cash cow like when pokemon took the cards from WotC except konami screwed the proverbial pooch (and their playerbase) when they did, proving benchmarking a successful company rarely makes you successful.
DIZZtheWHIZZ
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This x1,000,000,000.
the sidewalk
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Why support a ban list? So my Luxray X can be worth a fraction of what it is now? I feel as though this is a stupid idea for any TCG.