Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

kingdra isnt it good?

huh lions?

Kingdra is just bad. End. Quote me on this KINGDRA WILL NOT DO THAT GREAT IN THE COMING FORMAT!!!!

Scipio said:
I just love statements like "The ANARCHY is coming". Yeah, mind explaining? Airhypers.

Kingdra is good. Period. And to all those who say "Snipe it", yeah, you won't be able to. Trust me :)
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we won't snipe it, no need to. Kill off your draw, and you have nothing. Or.... outspeed it, with I don't know... umm.... VileBellosom, or beedrill... or anything else. Good Game!

or my favorite comparison Froslass>Kingdra, lets compare.

Froslass: 90 Hp
Weak to steel?(who plays this)
40 damage for 2, active is asleep, and 10 to all benched

Kingdra: 130
Weak to lightning
60: for 1 and 2 cards, and does 20 to one benched.

I mean oh no... she has 40 less hp, but froslass wins everytime, and her other ability... kingdra has 130 hp left, she about to get knocked out... bye bye kingdra.
 
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glaceon master, you do realize that getting around the censor is not allowed? Doing that can result in a pretty serious infraction.
 
helghast101 said:
Kingdra is just bad. End. Quote me on this KINGDRA WILL NOT DO THAT GREAT IN THE COMING FORMAT!!!!
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somebody forgot to move a decimal..:lol:

Look, that's very bold what you said.

Kingdra is, in fact, WAAAY faster than BellPlume, or Beedrill(I tested them.)

It will be a tier 1 contender, but not incredible.

It's not bad at all. Unless you mean Neo Kingdra(eew, that was bad.)

It WILL win a few BR's, but nothing really after that.


EDIT: don't forget AMU or else DarthPika will kill me...
 
B_B_C said:
Dude I play test kingdra against all these differnt decks. Kingdra is for n00bz that think they can turn 2 everything.
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I'm a n00b, am I? You're still running PLOX. :nonono: PLOX is dead. Torterra and Kingdra both beat PLOX consistently. BTW, if I do manage to get a T2 Kingdra out, you're fried. :biggrin:

helghast101 said:
until somebody shows me a decent list of kingdra post rotation, and match-up stats. I won't believe it.
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Pokémon: 20

4x Kingdra LA
2x Seadra LA
4x Horsea LA
3x Claydol GE
3x Baltoy GE
4x Phione MD (Evo Wish)

Trainers: 24

4x Bebe's Search
4x Rare Candy
2x PlusPower
2x Night Maintenance
2x Cynthia's Feelings
2x Roseanne's Research
2x P.O.V.
4x Dusk Ball
2x Technical Machine TS-2

Energy: 16

4x Call Energy
12x Water Energy


Best list out there. :smile:
 
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ok, lets say that is the best list, I still don't understand why its better than anything else... explainations plz...?

all it does is draw and discard for dragon pump....?????? I mean 60 to 1 poke and 20 to 1 more....???
 
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-4 Phione and +4 Buck's now THAT is better.

It's called sniping. I mean yeah mortar did 40-20-20 but that is still good.
 
But mortar also had a lv.X that could super burn and snipe for 100, and a body that removed damage from it.

Biiiiiiiiiig difference.
 
that kingdra list seems really slow. I mean call and phione? If you cant get a fast kingdra without them you fail, My list plays 3 seadra and i may not always get t1 or t2 kingdra (i do frequently) then i always have it byt t3 with maybe a seadra donk on t2.

Raise your hand if you've gotten the t1 kingdra and t1 claydol play!

*raises hand*

Ror
 
Black Mamba said:
But mortar also had a lv.X that could super burn and snipe for 100, and a body that removed damage from it.

Biiiiiiiiiig difference.
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Mortar also need three energies to do the 40-20-20 attack and four energies to do the 100 sniper, not to mention you had to discard two of them. 40+20+20=80. 60+20=80. While Magmortar needed three energies to do a total of 80 damage, Kingdra needs only one. Magmortar is better for spread, but Kingdra is better for hitting the active for fewer energies.
 
Pokemon Ninja said:
kingdras good for one reason and one reason only nd thats that it cant be countered except by ohko but like no power locks or nrg locks r gonna hurt it as long as you can drop ure kingdras on the field ure gonna be able to launch attacks.. its that kind of consistency that makes it
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thats not entirely true, a well times power stop hurts kingdra as much as magmortar. If kingdra cant refresh his hand with claydol, he is done. He is to hand resources as magmortar is to energy resources.
 
Pokemon Ninja said:
no thats not true

if ur gardy, hes doin 60 fro 3 to stop u nd ur still doin 40 for 1, early 60+20s will make ur 40s count for more. if ur talkin mesprit its so temporary it wont hurt even if u cant discard 2 cards for 60+20. but theres no other way to stop claydol w/o killing it. kingdra doesnt even rely on claydol so much anyway as much as u think
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i know. i was just saying, if kingdra had to play with not claydol (aka no powers) it would lose, and there is glaceon lvl X btw
 
DarthPika said:
glaceon master, you do realize that getting around the censor is not allowed? Doing that can result in a pretty serious infraction.
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what is he talkign about?

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rroaryh said:
i know. i was just saying, if kingdra had to play with not claydol (aka no powers) it would lose, and there is glaceon lvl X btw
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ya true but glaceon has to get out first and has to be active
 
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I love how all of you think Kingdra needs Claydol to be effective. Think a little out of the box, there's more than enough draw in this format not named Cosmic Power. Don't get me wrong I love Claydol, but it doesn't have to be in every deck, even ones that rely on cards in hand.
 
So has anyone found a deck that can consistently beat Kingdra more then say 30% of the time? Sofar I have not been able to build a consistent counter to it. There are a few matches that are lost due to weird stuff like having 3 Kingdra prized or the Horsea donked but in an ordinary set up it has beaten every deck I have made and many from the Gym that I tried out against it.
 
Grinning_Gengar said:
So has anyone found a deck that can consistently beat Kingdra more then say 30% of the time? Sofar I have not been able to build a consistent counter to it. There are a few matches that are lost due to weird stuff like having 3 Kingdra prized or the Horsea donked but in an ordinary set up it has beaten every deck I have made and many from the Gym that I tried out against it.
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ya luxray and electivre LVX =^_^=
 
Luxray imho beats Kingdra. 3 energy and discard 2 is not a problem with Electivire, Energy Switch and charge attacks.

Gliscor beats Kingdra unless they have both Regice and Dusknoir teched. Just drop 2 Mr Mime and they'll have to attach 3 energy to attack.

Eeveelutions or any Leafeon deck that also has Espeon in at beats Kingdra. Once Leafeon is there, they can only do 20 to it while Leafeon recovers with Dawn Stadium (and don't tell me Dawn Stadium helps Kingdra too, they usually attach only one energy to it).
 
ShadowGuard said:
Luxray imho beats Kingdra. 3 energy and discard 2 is not a problem with Electivire, Energy Switch and charge attacks.

Gliscor beats Kingdra unless they have both Regice and Dusknoir teched. Just drop 2 Mr Mime and they'll have to attach 3 energy to attack.

Eeveelutions or any Leafeon deck that also has Espeon in at beats Kingdra. Once Leafeon is there, they can only do 20 to it while Leafeon recovers with Dawn Stadium (and don't tell me Dawn Stadium helps Kingdra too, they usually attach only one energy to it).
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lol ya as u can see alot can counter king
i think its too pricey to play and over here there isnt anyone that'll know about the counters so ya lol
 
ShadowGuard said:
Luxray imho beats Kingdra. 3 energy and discard 2 is not a problem with Electivire, Energy Switch and charge attacks.

Gliscor beats Kingdra unless they have both Regice and Dusknoir teched. Just drop 2 Mr Mime and they'll have to attach 3 energy to attack.

Eeveelutions or any Leafeon deck that also has Espeon in at beats Kingdra. Once Leafeon is there, they can only do 20 to it while Leafeon recovers with Dawn Stadium (and don't tell me Dawn Stadium helps Kingdra too, they usually attach only one energy to it).
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I still have not built a good Luxray yet but I have to disagree about Gliscor and Leafeon. In my experience Gliscors Weakness is too great of a handicap and Leafeon is just too slow. Guess Ill build a Luxray and see how it goes.
 
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