Fox McCloud
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Is the other Midlothian full and when is Rockville?
I personally feel that the creator's intent was that you were supposed to use that little thing called MEMORY in this case, but I support whatever POP rules.
especially since I got it backwards....I think!
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I need to borrow several dusknoirs, and posibly a few torterras. Please let me know if you have the cards and will be there.
thanks
The funny part of that is you won't know whether or not that has happened. That's the advantage of not writing down the prizes. You have been given an advantage by knowing your prizes; sharing that with your opponent gives them power over you.Okay, you can be all clever and do it by memory. Several turns later I'll lol when you grab the psychic energy instead of that lv.x you needed.
What does this say about the ability of our players? I hope the top performers in VA don't have to rely on a crutch in order to play well. Maybe players should have their decklists next to them too so they don't forget the amounts of important cards that are in their decks...Trust me on this. You DO NOT WANT TO RELY ON MEMORY FOR STUFF IN POKEMON. You have a lot to think about during your turn and your opponents turn, and its quite easy to forget what the prizes were and where they are while you try and do all that.
You were playing my deck too?I think I left some cards at Fairfax. I can't remember what all of them where but, there was an exploud and a seadra in the pile. If anybody found them please let me know thanks.
Yes, I found it funny too. Hiro seemed slightly confused by the comment, but he is nieve that way (anyone notice he is always getting hit, and he never sees it coming?)If any one watches Heroes by the way (and you should) Daphne the Speedster kept calling Hiro (the japanese time stopper) Pikachu, twas hilarious
Shouldn't that be on the MD battle roads thread?
With the prizes thing, Kevin F was funny at practise the other night. He didnt want to write it down or remember, so he simply played with the prizes face up. A nice alternative in my humble opinion. That way, there is no chance of the player trying to do something illegal or write down the wrong one/position (intentionally or otherwise) It is basically the same effect since the notes are public knowledge.
If you ask me, which I realize nobody did but I am going to give my 2 cents anyway, they never intended prize content and placement to be part of the allowable notes. It is just asking for trouble. I know that is how it was ruled, and I will certainly support that decision at any tournament I am judging, but I think it leaves too many openings for intentional or unintentional bluffing/lying etc.
One example is something Helen sort of reminded me of. LvlX is not technically part of the name of the card. On a deck list, you are allowed to put just Glaceon as long as the number is correct. Most of us put the Lvl X anyway, but it is not technically required in the card name. Now, say a player is running Glaceon LVL X, but only writes Glaceon on the notes. They technically haven't broken the rules, but unless they are putting the card number there as well, it is misleading because I as the opponent have no way of knowing which one the opponent is referring to. This knowledge obviously would change how I would be playing.
How does a judge rule here? I know it would be a tough one for me. Did they not write Lvl x out of habit, or were they trying to mislead? And even if they were doing it intentionally, again, I can't imagine that it would be illegal because it is the correct card name
David, any ideas here?
Except that there are game mechanics which turn prizes face up which are still in the current modified :redface:With the prizes thing, Kevin F was funny at practise the other night. He didnt want to write it down or remember, so he simply played with the prizes face up. A nice alternative in my humble opinion. That way, there is no chance of the player trying to do something illegal or write down the wrong one/position (intentionally or otherwise) It is basically the same effect since the notes are public knowledge.
Something to look at:If you ask me, ... they never intended prize content and placement to be part of the allowable notes.
Now, if I were a judge who wasn't afraid of what the crowd said, I might say that Section 10 does not give the player the ability to write down his/her prizes. I might consider an opinion that Time Walk showing the prizes in a private mannor is not a change in the game state, and the content of the prizes is not an action that has happened during the game. The action of the power being used, that the prizes were viewed, the action of a prize being swapped, and what Pokemon was taken from the prizes can all be noted, but nothing has happened to the other 5 prizes to warrent them being written down by the player. If the prizes were revealed, then it'd be a different story.Tournament Rules said:10. Note Taking
Players are allowed to take notes during a game in respect to actions that have happened during the game. Notes should be restricted to changes in the game state. Players must be timely with their notetaking and may not use devices that may send or receive messages as a note-taking device. Notes taken during a match may not be given to other players during the course of the tournament. Notes taken during a match may be reviewed by either player at any time during the match.
IAlthough I really can't understand the ruling. What your prizes are is not a change in the game state. It shouldn't be any different from writing down the contents of your prizes in a deck search, and it shouldn't be any different from writing down the contents of your opponent's hand when you use Milotic's Pokepower.
Nice question!LvlX is not technically part of the name of the card. On a deck list, you are allowed to put just Glaceon as long as the number is correct. Most of us put the Lvl X anyway, but it is not technically required in the card name. Now, say a player is running Glaceon LVL X, but only writes Glaceon on the notes. They technically haven't broken the rules, but unless they are putting the card number there as well, it is misleading because I as the opponent have no way of knowing which one the opponent is referring to. This knowledge obviously would change how I would be playing.
How does a judge rule here? I know it would be a tough one for me. Did they not write Lvl x out of habit, or were they trying to mislead? And even if they were doing it intentionally, again, I can't imagine that it would be illegal because it is the correct card name
Tim - Hiro is awesome, for a guy who can stop time and check out his surroundings or teleport out of danger, he really is a total clutz.
Can you write down the contents of your opponent's hand when you use Poke-Power Sharing? I've never heard that before.
You were playing my deck too?
I'll look through the stuff that was given to me.
If you ask me, which I realize Mr. W JUST DID So..., I am going to give my 2 cents [DEL]anyway[/DEL], they never intended prize content and placement to be part of the allowable notes. It is just asking for trouble. I know that is how it was ruled, and I will certainly support that decision at any tournament I am judging, but I think it leaves too many openings for intentional or unintentional bluffing/lying etc.
One example is something Helen sort of reminded me of. LvlX is not technically part of the name of the card. On a deck list, you are allowed to put just Glaceon as long as the number is correct. Most of us put the Lvl X anyway, but it is not technically required in the card name. Now, say a player is running Glaceon LVL X, but only writes Glaceon on the notes. They technically haven't broken the rules, but unless they are putting the card number there as well, it is misleading because I as the opponent have no way of knowing which one the opponent is referring to. This knowledge obviously would change how I would be playing.
How does a judge rule here? I know it would be a tough one for me. Did they not write Lvl x out of habit, or were they trying to mislead? And even if they were doing it intentionally, again, I can't imagine that it would be illegal because it is the correct card name
David, any ideas here?
I'm really starting to wish the card had never been printed due to all of the loophole-seekers....
HEY LEAH ..
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE TIME WALK - NOTE TAKING ISSUE?
She's officially in the argument now ... :biggrin:
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Pandora's Box ...
if your opponent knows your prizes, that can put you at a huge disadvantage, especially if say your dusknoir is prized. i would rather just rearrange them and not take notes.GUESS WHAT I'M GONNA SAY ?
.. just... show your opponent each prize, take the notes. you both know them. No problems. No rules broken. NO RISK of rules broken.
When playing NATE, I even wrote the wrong thing and he's like "didn't you mean Roseanne's?" I'm like.. yeah... that's right... (*scribble*...*correct*) and that was that. Because he SAW the prizes, mistakes were allowed!
People TRY TOO HARD.
It can really be much simpler than people make it out to be.