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Why Changing Format wont change the fact its still a crapshoot

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Its not an all bad thing. I think the game SHOULD be where you go into a tournament not knowing what your opponent is playing. That is really a good thing.

If I were to host a tournament, I would force everyone to go rogue. That way, the best players win.
 
^ Unless I'm mistaken, some of the biggest tournaments in magic shift formats. IIRC, I remember reading somewhere that there was a draft format at a big Grand Prix, and it made people have to adjust to the format. I believe thats what makes M:TG appeal to a lot of people is they need to be prepared for anything.
 
I would like to remind everyone, that Worlds 2002 did rotate before the tournament, making everyone play Neo Genesis and on instead of Team Rocket and On. I am frankly glad that TPCi today is keeping players on their toes and making sure the format completely stays fresh and rotated when needed now, no longer at a certain point of the year.
 
The Legend wrote: Not true, not everyone has all the cards you have. Players who can build good decks and play decent enough lose any shot in a hgss-on format if they dont own all the cards needed to build a decent deck. Sure they could very easily build a DECENT to above average deck but who wants to take a sub par deck to nats or worlds? especially when you know that you have a great deck that gets around sabledonk with no problem with the cards you own from md-ar. Nothing is more frustrating then feeling like your money(therefore the work you did to get that money) went to waste.

Lets point out a few very simple flaws in this, shall we? First off, which sets are ACTUALLY more prohibitive? A set like Majestic Dawn, which is near impossible to find, or any of the HGSS sets which, last time I checked, could readily be purchased at the local Walmart? Which cards are worth the most money? Uxie X and Luxray X were sitting as high as 80 dollars a pop this year. Broken Time Space, and the SP trainers also hit a very high cost for their rarity. Sableye looked to be doing so as well. Lvl X cards in general, due to their increased rarity, were much more expensive, on average, than a Prime, or Legend piece. The new cards are very easy to afford, and compared to every other TCG on the market, borderline dirt cheap. To hear ANYONE complain that POKEMON is "too hard to get cards for " makes me sick.

I understand some people may be frustrated because they like to dump off their old cards right before they rotate at nationals, and now, the price drop has already hit, but lets be realistic. This entire debate has been going on FOREVER now, everyone was aware it was a possibility, acting like it "couldn't happen" and not taking it into account is stubborn at best. If you have a pile of pre HGSS cards you are upset with having not sold, you should have started to empty them off once debate for this decision really started to pick up. Keep the stuff you may use for decks, and get rid of the rest.

Also, rotation is a great business model. It promotes sales, and helps the overall growth of the game. Combine it with a new set, showcasing the newest generation of Pokemon, and Pokemon really looks to be capitalizing on Black and White. The new cards become good enough to play now, opposed to being outclassed by the older sets, which will be far more inviting to new and returning players who may have jumped in due to BW.

Lastly, the format we had PRIOR to BW was NOT GOOD. It was stale, imbalanced, and STILL very luck based. I managed to obtain an 1861 rating by States and feel extremely blessed to have do so. This format IS unhealthy WITHOUT the BW rules. Not "unplayable" unhealthy, as the post BW rules one threatens to be, but not a format worth defending when an alternative exists! Postponing the rules change may be "simpler" ( if it was even an option ) but it certainly does LESS to fix the state of the game.
 
I played during HL-on, I played during DX-on, I played during EM-on.

Set-up decks
Strategy
Donks being rare enough they were big suprises
Having to outplay an opponents

I quit the game except for playing in cities this season.

HGSS-on is going to bring me back.
I havn't looked at a single BW card
I havn't tested any combos or ideas yet


I know HGSS-on is going to be an amazing format
I know this current format has run it's course and it's time for it to go.
 
You guys have issues, Id sacrrfice an arm and a leg to be able to play in this format ... Anyone wants to trade their us nats place for my german nats place? So you can play in that "great" format some more?
 
I find it funny that all the recongizable and well-know people in the Pokemon Community are thumbs up for the format change. All these random people who I've never seen a post from before now are complaining.
 
The beauty of this format is you can't just analyze what has won in the past and counter it. You actually have to build a deck, and you won't even know what against which to test. In the past there was an established metagame against which to test your deck. That convenient time saver is gone, and nothing but innovation follows.
 
SebastianS said:
having 5-6 sets to work from
really puts a hole on creativity
anyone can put simple combos together
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tell that to shakespeare and his sonnets


the fact of the matter is that it does NOT hinder creativity- people must be creative with what will and wont work and try out completely new combos within the constraints of fewer sets

it ISNT a crapshoot, because the crapshoot refers not to an IGNORANCE of what will be played (we could figure that out easily, decks like sableye, SP, gdos and its trainer heavy personality), but what will happen when they are played. the skill is removed from our decks and battles and placed onto the flip of a coin or the strength of a starting hand. THIS is why it was going (might still be) a crapshoot.

basically, you are just utterly wrong.
 
So basically your saying that players actually have to CREATE their own decks without copying someones from the internet!? That's insane!!
 
Box of Fail said:
The beauty of this format is you can't just analyze what has won in the past and counter it. You actually have to build a deck, and you won't even know what against which to test. In the past there was an established metagame against which to test your deck. That convenient time saver is gone, and nothing but innovation follows.
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I anxiously await the tears that will come from the new HGSS-On metagame when the floodgates of complaining open. I feed on your tears.
 
All I know is Donphan is going to be a huge threat, and everything had better be prepared to deal with him.
 
ryanvergel said:
tell that to shakespeare and his sonnets


the fact of the matter is that it does NOT hinder creativity- people must be creative with what will and wont work and try out completely new combos within the constraints of fewer sets
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Sonnets are a horrible analogy. Shakespeare was not constrained in his vocabulary (and rather detestably created new words, effectively cheating to maintain meter), and words from which one can choose are obviously far more analogous to legal sets than the words he actually chooses to use, which are far more comparable to the 60-card cap on decks.

Shakespeare was not limited in words from which to choose, but rather how many he could use at a time. Players have always been limited in how many cards they can use at a time, but their proverbial 'vocabulary' (that is, cardpool) just got smaller. So now we also have fewer cards from which to choose; having a small vocabulary would have killed Shakespeare's sonnets.

Of course I agree with your general sentiment but that analogy was so bad I had to point it out.

While 'tis true Shakespeare used hardly a word
And used only a few in any verse
Limited are those by listeners heard
But thy analogy could not be worse

His vocabulary was very strong
He had the means to craft ev'ry sonnet
An he should deem his poetry too long
With new words he’ll make the critic vomit

He had few syllables with which to work
There shall always be sixty in a deck
But knowing many words was quite a perk
Like having many sets from which to tech

Sonnets are not constrained as formats are
An knowest many words on Shakespeares par
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