Contrary to what I posted before I WILL have consistent internet
Issues I would like addressed today:
-Vegitilian is alive, but tied up, he can't argue, so I would like to put forth that it would be unfair to accuse him of anything since he cannot argue back. As such, I hold my previous stand that he is not suspicious for the time being and while he may be discussed while addressing others I will not vote for, or otherwise accuse him of anything out of fairness.
-KirbyKing is unaccounted for, but I have no idea why. It strikes me as odd for someone to have targeted him having drawn so little attention to himself, but since we do not know the nature of his disappearance (whether it is good or bad in nature) we can do little but speculate
-Is Jellyfisher dead? The update is vague about this, bloody items and no corpse?
-Kayle’s corpse. Why was he targeted? Any ideas?
-I would also like to put forth that as a starting point we should continue our conversation regarding Vablakes whom I STILL believe is suspicious but won’t vote for just yet because we’ve barely started this day.
Thoughts? Comments? Accusations (toward me or otherwise)?
The vegitalian being silenced is a bit of a WIFOM situation, since he was attacking you the other day. Therefore, it's possible he was roleblocked by someone who wishes to frame you. OR, you (or a possible partner, if one exists) knowing that everyone would think that it's someone trying to frame you, could have blocked him since either way, you won't take the blame for it. While this is something I think is worth consideration, since I don't want to clear him of being the one to do it, I don't think we can pass any sort of judgement on him either, since it's too easy for it to go either way.
No particular thoughts on KirbyKing, other than perhaps low lying players were being targeted in hopes of hitting a power role that was trying to lie under the radar, either with good or bad intentions.
Jellyfisher is dead, look at the front page. It seems we have someone/something that is able to keep role reveal upon death. I'm not sure we can draw any conclusions from the alignment of the killer yet.
My thoughts on why Kayle was targeted: He wasn't going to receive priest protection. You, Vegi, and perhaps Diaz were fairly high profile the other day, and I would suspect draw night attention to your selves. Kayle was probably the "safe" kill. There may be other reasons, but that's my best guess for now.
I agree, Vablakes is suspicious. However, I find you a bit overeager to put the spotlight back on him so quickly, especially after the night events seem to be favorable for you. I won't draw any conclusions yet, since it's possible you just got caught in less than ideal situation, and someone is trying to use it against you to make you look bad. However, I will be keeping you on my radar.
scorri thinks that there are two possibilities for the silencing of vegitalian. scorri thinks that either the mafia want to frame the people that vegitalian was suspicious of or that they are the people that vegitalian was suspicious of. scorri thinks that it is more likely the first unless the mafia is not thinking.
As I said in my above post, I really could go either way because of the WIOFM situation which it creates. You just demonstrated that the people Vegi was suspicious of COULD block him, because it would be seemingly stupid for them to block the guy who was suspicious of them, because it would draw attention to them. However, because it's a "stupid" move, they obviously wouldn't do it, so they actually can do it if they want. It can go either way, and there's no way to tell.
Butter nut ninja - was also killed day 1. He was "Giratina". His win condition was "Pokemon win". This is highlighted in the first post as an "independent" alignment win condition.
Wait Diaz, you say... Pokemon are independent? That means..? Yes it does.
Take a look at Vablake's character reveal from yesterday.
http://pokegym.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2365457&postcount=747
Ouch. This was before he knew the the "pokemon" win condition would be outed as independent. Vablakes, give me good concise argument as to why I shouldn't vote for you, or my vote is heading your way.
Excellent find Diaz! I'm not sure if we can assume that ALL pokemon have the same win condition, but I would be willing to bet that at the very least, the legendaries probably do. Even then, it's possible that only the "unfriendly" pokemon (Mewtwo, Giratina, Gengar, etc...) I'm also not sure they quite belong as an independant, as much as a 3rd party which functions as it's own "town". I would like to avoid drawing too many conclusions about pokemon though before we see more of them.
