Official System Wars Topic (plz keep flaming to a minumum)
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Twilight Princess isn't kiddy...King3567 said:
Nor is...
Red Steel
Splinter Cell: Double Agent
Budokai Tenkaichi 2
Far Cry Vengance
Call of Duty 3
Metroid Prime 3
Prince of Persia: Rival Swords
(you get the idea)
Long story short, most of the games that are currently out or have been announced for the Wii aren't really "kiddy" at all...
Heck, I don't even know what's "kiddy" about a console that looks like a disc drive with a glossy, white, plastive covering on it >>
(then again, "kiddy" isn't even an adjective =/ )
the GC version of Soul Calibur 2 had the best (or second best, to some degree) unique character, PSO would have been better if it weren't for the script kiddies that ruined the game, Capcom vs. SNK 2 was great, red face paint Leader was awsome, F-Zero = great.moza said:
And just to anger the people who still have their "SPONGEBOBBARNEYRAINBOWSANDHEARTSLOL" filters on their eyes, Wind Waker was awsome...
yes they were good, just not classics in my eyes. (Tales of Symphonia imo was best on system)moza said:
Zelda is still kiddy. Sure the plot may be darker, but its not like there is blood and gore everywhere. Kids will still play this
Red Steel isnt very good
DBZ.............i cant describe this lol
CoD 3 isnt exclusive
Shellshock929
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If you hate nintendo lolganium, then why do you like Pokemon? Just curious, since Pokemon is made by nintendo. I am assuming you hate the big N because you love sony.
Call me a fanboy all you want, cause if I was a fanboy, I would of hated Xbox too, but I don't. I am planning on getting a 360 in the future, and hopefully I get Halo 3.
Call me a fanboy all you want, cause if I was a fanboy, I would of hated Xbox too, but I don't. I am planning on getting a 360 in the future, and hopefully I get Halo 3.
Articjedi
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What exactly defines a game as kiddy, anyway? Is it just a game that's so incredibly gory that Jack Thompson would have a field day with it? Because I can name about 50 games that don't have that level of gore and are definitely not for kids (I know, most of them are rpgs, but eh...)
lolganium
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the origional cards were made be wizards of the cost. I despise most nintendo consoles, get that, consoles.Blastoise-shellshocker said:
all through the years, nintendo was out matched:
SNES - mega drive - neo geo= mega drive is the best easily
n64 - playstation - dreamcast= playstation anihalated with tomb raider, crash, gex, crock and tekken
game cube - playstation 2 - xbox= playstation 2 is easily better, though xbox was alright-ish
wii - xbox 360 - playstation 3= played x360 and wii, my mate knows someone with a PS3, it rocks!!!
nintendo always seem to be neglected, and anything nintendo adopts, seems to die horribly. Sonic the hedgehog seems to have died since they started running primarily on nintendo machines. pokemon cards are another example. since they relived WotC, every set seems to bring more and more horribly broken/ compleatly unplayable cards. and thats what the card game is now.
so i think, as i've sed before, history will reapeat itself and though they get off great, they soon will die, and crush and burn. thats the way i see it because they whole controller thing, the novalty will soon wear very thing.
Professor_Chris
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Surely you jest, right? RIGHT? You surely didn't just make such a rediculous point did you? So, a kiddy game now=kids play it? o_o Gosh darn it! GTA, Halo (not much bloodz or gorez)--THEY'RE ALL KIDDY GAMES. THE WORLD AM DOOOOOOOOMED.King3567 said:
Wrong. Pokemon Company (owned by Nintendo) originally made the cards. They were just published by Wizards outside of Japan.lolganium said:
Sonic the hedgehog has never ran "primarily" on Nintendo systems because, since they're third party, they've always published each console game on EVERY SYSTEM. Except Sonic for 360. But that was awful. Load times ftl. Sonic started sucking when he went 3D and you had to play as people other than Sonic, Knuckles, or Tails and the latter two stopped playing anything like Sonic.
Again, your point about WotC is stupid and moot. Wizards never made the cards. They just printed what they were told to. (Pro Tip: the game used to be much moar broek under WotC)
History will repeat itself? You mean Nintendo will STILL make boatloads of money for publishing terrific games? Great for them!
Madden is awesome for all systems and all other sport games, so I don't really have an opinion on whose better. I like getting all the same gen. systems an playing them. I had GCN, PS2, and Xbox at the same time and I liked Xbox for sports, PS2 for GTA and GCN I played it and only liked the mario and sonic games on it. Now with the New gen. I like them all equally right now. Xbox the most since of its much larger library and its been around for a year. I'm waiting to see what Wii and PS3 do with their game choices.
ZAKtheGeek
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You've also managed to completely ignore NES. Honestly, your bias couldn't be more clear.
And I can't believe I forgot the handheld market, where Nintendo is basically king.
Oh, like the D-pad and the analog stick and the rumble pack and the general SNES controller design? Well, then again, Sony's dropped the rumble pack. Maybe for you that counts as "Dying horribly."
You've also touted the merits of the flexibility that the tilt sensing Sixaxis offers, yet it's basically a weaker form of what the Wii offers. So basically it's destined to die horribly. Way to contradict yourself...
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Phazon Elite
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Personally, I find it funny that in spite of all the egotistical tempers here, everyone -- even Prof. Chris -- agreed that Red Steel *****. ROFLMFAO
...kill the censor....
...kill the censor....
lolganium said:
Excuse me? PS2 is one of the most amazing consoles of all time, there's no doubt. That doesn't, however, automatically mean PS3 will be equally good. SNES was completely awesome, but N64 was a huge step down by comparison. Megadrive was also great, but Saturn lost nearly all the best games to Sony's shiny new PS1.
Lobbing a console out a window isn't sane behaviour. Lobbing anything out a window isn't sane behaviour. I think you all need a serious reality check.
No, I'd definitely say Metroid Prime will be forgotten to the ages, as will Smash Bros.: Melee. Resident Evil 4? Pssh. (don't give me any crap about the PS2 version, it's significantly worse) Tales of Symphonia? Definitely no classics, oh no, definitely not. And let's not forget the likes of Wind Waker. Oh, did I mention Metroid Prime?
You're finally letting your own bias out into the open...
Sonic never became "primarily" on Nintendo systems. Sonic Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog were both on all three systems, and the new Sonic is a 360 exclusive. The two GCN "exclusive" sonic games were Dreamcast ports, with more or less no changes at all. Sonic's decline has nothing to do with Nintendo, and everything to do with Sega slacking.
Can you give any other examples? I can give one example off the top of my head that exactly contradicts your theory: Resident Evil. RE went GameCube exclusive until RE4, and RE4 was absolutely phenomenal and got nothing but rave reviews. (again, no crap about the PS2 port, it ***** by comparison)
Oh, and the cards were always designed by PCL. Wizards of the Coast only did distribution. The only card they ever actually created was Dark Raichu (Team Rocket's infamous "error" #84/83), which sucked. They were working on their own set, codenamed Jamboree, which never got released because Nintendo pulled WotC's license. Contradictory to your ignorant beliefs, many of the concepts in Jamboree were actually adapted in the first part of the EX generation (rumour has it, the best cards in RS, SS, and DR were actually taken directly from Jamboree - ie Blaziken, Gardevoir, and some others, but I don't know if there's any real truth to that assertion).
Oh, and speaking of horribly broken / completely unplayable cards, those have been around since Base Set. Hi blastoise. What's up, Alakazam? Energy Removal? Or, on the other end of the spectrum, we have such awesome cards as Base Zapdos, Jungle Nidoqueen, or the incredibly awesome Base Starmie...
Phazon Elite
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Hey, don't knock my old Zapdos-Rhydon-Nidoking deck.Tagrineth said:
I loved that thing. <3
Just out of curiosity, other than being a blu-ray player what does the PS3 have that the xbox 360 doesn't. Both have GTA, CoD3, and the 360 has the halo franchise
Yes I am a die-hard nintendo fan, but that question almost always ends the debate about those two. IMO the Wii will be the top system in terms of sales and great games.
And before anyone says these things:
Pokemon is not 'kiddy' when you really get into competitive play you learn about loads of values such as IVs, EVs, movepools, and combos. the Pokemon video games have just as much of a metagame as the TCG.
Mario should not be considered 'kiddy' it is the best selling video game franchise of all time. Has a number of games that will forever (as long as video games are being played anyways) be cosidered the best of the best (super mario bros, super mario 64, Super Mario Kart, MKDS, ect.) There are sports games that leave other games of the genre behind. Mario Power Tennis is one of the best tennis games out there, and has the added bonus of the sweet power shots that add flavour and fun to the game. Mario Kart defined what kart racing is, and has beaten out every other kart racing game because of its now amazing 3d tracks, its classic gameplay, the familiar characters, and the fun to use power ups. Come to think of it, every mario multiplayer game and mario kart are fun whether you win or lose no matter how bad. (then again I haven't played strikers or hoops 3 vs. 3).
Metroid cannot be considered 'kiddy'. If a mom saw her 7 year old son battling the parasite queen from Prime, she may turn off the cube and tell him that it is too scary for him. Every creature in that game is amazingly designed, and rather obviously deserve the Teen rating that the game earned.
Super smash bros should NEVER be considered Kiddy. It is the best selling game for the GCN and if you look at a site such as www.smashboards.com you will see exactly how serious and in-depth many players get.
LoZ is pracically the definition of a good game. Only two zelda games have gotten a rating of below 8.7 from IGN and those were the ports of LoZ and LoZ 2 the adventure of link. Almost every other game has reached a score above 9 (except for Four swords adventures). It is widely acclaimed as the best fantasy/adventure series out there.
Is it just me or is Lolganium the only person who opposes nintendo in the pokegym?
Yes I am a die-hard nintendo fan, but that question almost always ends the debate about those two. IMO the Wii will be the top system in terms of sales and great games.
And before anyone says these things:
Pokemon is not 'kiddy' when you really get into competitive play you learn about loads of values such as IVs, EVs, movepools, and combos. the Pokemon video games have just as much of a metagame as the TCG.
Mario should not be considered 'kiddy' it is the best selling video game franchise of all time. Has a number of games that will forever (as long as video games are being played anyways) be cosidered the best of the best (super mario bros, super mario 64, Super Mario Kart, MKDS, ect.) There are sports games that leave other games of the genre behind. Mario Power Tennis is one of the best tennis games out there, and has the added bonus of the sweet power shots that add flavour and fun to the game. Mario Kart defined what kart racing is, and has beaten out every other kart racing game because of its now amazing 3d tracks, its classic gameplay, the familiar characters, and the fun to use power ups. Come to think of it, every mario multiplayer game and mario kart are fun whether you win or lose no matter how bad. (then again I haven't played strikers or hoops 3 vs. 3).
Metroid cannot be considered 'kiddy'. If a mom saw her 7 year old son battling the parasite queen from Prime, she may turn off the cube and tell him that it is too scary for him. Every creature in that game is amazingly designed, and rather obviously deserve the Teen rating that the game earned.
Super smash bros should NEVER be considered Kiddy. It is the best selling game for the GCN and if you look at a site such as www.smashboards.com you will see exactly how serious and in-depth many players get.
LoZ is pracically the definition of a good game. Only two zelda games have gotten a rating of below 8.7 from IGN and those were the ports of LoZ and LoZ 2 the adventure of link. Almost every other game has reached a score above 9 (except for Four swords adventures). It is widely acclaimed as the best fantasy/adventure series out there.
Is it just me or is Lolganium the only person who opposes nintendo in the pokegym?
I think you should say he is the only one who doesn't provide good explinations of what he thinks.
lolganium, can you name one thing that Nintendo made and died horribly?
Shellshock929
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I guess saying that something ***** is offensive.