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Scizor said:
First off, I INVENTED this deck..
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nah lol. I played it before that with a scizor line before that and even i dont think i invented it lol Its just common sense. No one invented dragtode or lunasol cause its just made sense. Its not one of those decks that anyone gets credit for like mynx which was a bit out there lol.
 
about the Flygonn ex Matchup, Metagross and Queen are weak to psychic, swift gets through Steelix, I beat this deck, Player Patriarch at Woodlands CCs
 
Captain Petey said:
nah lol. I played it before that with a scizor line before that and even i dont think i invented it lol Its just common sense. No one invented dragtode or lunasol cause its just made sense. Its not one of those decks that anyone gets credit for like mynx which was a bit out there lol.
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Obviously, it's common sense.

Great deck, I think you may have been a little optomistic about your matchups. I think reports of games or win records would be more helpful than what you 'think'. Yes, it's logical but sometimes like in Metanite, consistency vs. inconsistency wins even if the deck is at a disadvantage. You'd need to play to find out.
 
It's not that the deck is inconsistant. I developed the deck along with Scizor and I had no problem beating metanite. The decks are about equally consistant. I'm about 50/50 vs banette because it's just a slugfest.
 
i also think another steelix line is necessary. 1-1 is way too inconsistent, especially if you regard him as your main attacker.
 
Team Rocket FTW here.

i read the entire arcticle or whatever. and u forgot to metion the Metagross's DX drawback of it ability.
1st: the metagross DX puts 1 damage counter on the active pokemon that u attach a metal/psychic energy to from the discard pile chief.

2nd: with the drawback of Metgross dx ability and the switch cards that u use to retreat half alive pokemon to the bench then a player that really know how to play a flygon ex DF deck will easily see that it can so take advantage of flygon ex DF attack (DUH!!) and flygon having no weakness to anything your metagrosses dx & Nidoqueens df with weakness to psychic a screwed buddy.

3rd: if u also think LatiOs* will OHKO the flygon ex df then the next Flygon ex df with waste that pokemon with Pyschic Pulse for 80 damage and thats all LatiO*s star has for an HP dogg.

so Flygon will kill ur deck idea playa 9/10 times

and dont forget bout raieggs, delta, eggs w/e u wanna call it. raieggs can beat without much trouble too.
 
homeofmew said:
about the Flygonn ex Matchup, Metagross and Queen are weak to psychic, swift gets through Steelix, I beat this deck, Player Patriarch at Woodlands CCs
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Your one game is not nearly enough to express an entire matchup, especially considering I had one of the worst possible hands for that deck. Most of the time Flygon ex d will get torn to shreds by a Latios*, and the Flygon d will be doing little to nothing all game. Steelix ex also plasters the bench, considering any tech like Cloyster d would be locked by Lati@s. Guys, one game is never enough to make a matchup judgment.

However, I don't need to talk about matchups 'cause my opinion's posted: I agree with Scizor, one of the innovators if not creator, on most matches.
 
Hmmmm on metanite. I agree that it is a very difficult match for metanite to win but it is a hard deck to talk about match ups. Due to the many many many versions.

I personaly play farmer, the one thing you would have to worry about is a latiOs * but that is easily killed.

I think that putting metagross in thsi deck is what make the deck inmmune to sceptile. Meganiun was screwed by sceptile but metagross fixes that.

The only way I would try to beat thsi deck is have at least one metal on my draggys so that it takes 2 turns to KO it, and I would have a chance to kill steelix.

If a metanite deck plays heavy on crystal shard, then it can cause trouble because a metanite player has no problem discarding 6 energys to KO an ex. But without shard I say it is harder.

I think your discription of a matchup agaist metanite works very well.

Good article
 
Team Rocket FTW said:
Team Rocket FTW here.

i read the entire arcticle or whatever. and u forgot to metion the Metagross's DX drawback of it ability.
1st: the metagross DX puts 1 damage counter on the active pokemon that u attach a metal/psychic energy to from the discard pile chief.

2nd: with the drawback of Metgross dx ability and the switch cards that u use to retreat half alive pokemon to the bench then a player that really know how to play a flygon ex DF deck will easily see that it can so take advantage of flygon ex DF attack (DUH!!) and flygon having no weakness to anything your metagrosses dx & Nidoqueens df with weakness to psychic a screwed buddy.

3rd: if u also think LatiOs* will OHKO the flygon ex df then the next Flygon ex df with waste that pokemon with Pyschic Pulse for 80 damage and thats all LatiO*s star has for an HP dogg.

so Flygon will kill ur deck idea playa 9/10 times

and dont forget bout raieggs, delta, eggs w/e u wanna call it. raieggs can beat without much trouble too.
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hey DOGG, after you KO Latios* with your other Flygon ex, they Farmer it back, get it with Nidoqueen and power it up again, killing your new Flygon ex d, and they have picked up 4 prizes to your one. You bring a new Flygon ex to ko it CHIEF? They Farmer back the Latios, do the EXACT same thing and win the game.

GG DOGG.
 
Scizor said:
First off, I INVENTED this deck. I played it at a CC on Dec. 16th...
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You THINK you invented this deck. That's some incorrect information you have there my friend. Because supertyranitar played MetaLix in the Lusby MD CC on November 19. And besides, he's been testing varients of this deck since before regionals of last year. So, if anything, i'd say that he made this deck. Not to say that you haven't contributed to it, but he invented, because i KNOW that he tested it in HL on. I played vs it IRL.

Just figured i'd post this, because it kinda erked me a little.

And to all the haters, i LIKE the name MSNBC.
 
Team Rocket FTW said:
Team Rocket FTW here.

i read the entire arcticle or whatever. and u forgot to metion the Metagross's DX drawback of it ability.
1st: the metagross DX puts 1 damage counter on the active pokemon that u attach a metal/psychic energy to from the discard pile chief.

2nd: with the drawback of Metgross dx ability and the switch cards that u use to retreat half alive pokemon to the bench then a player that really know how to play a flygon ex DF deck will easily see that it can so take advantage of flygon ex DF attack (DUH!!) and flygon having no weakness to anything your metagrosses dx & Nidoqueens df with weakness to psychic a screwed buddy.

3rd: if u also think LatiOs* will OHKO the flygon ex df then the next Flygon ex df with waste that pokemon with Pyschic Pulse for 80 damage and thats all LatiO*s star has for an HP dogg.

so Flygon will kill ur deck idea playa 9/10 times

and dont forget bout raieggs, delta, eggs w/e u wanna call it. raieggs can beat without much trouble too.
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Metagross's power adds up to about 10 damage per turn. Steelix can still Ash 14 things (max) at that rate.


Second, please actually PLAY this match before you say Flygon beats it.


Flygon doesn't stand a snowballs chance in heck against Steelix + LatiOs*

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Shadow Zangoose said:
You THINK you invented this deck. That's some incorrect information you have there my friend. Because supertyranitar played MetaLix in the Lusby MD CC on November 19. And besides, he's been testing varients of this deck since before regionals of last year. So, if anything, i'd say that he made this deck. Not to say that you haven't contributed to it, but he invented, because i KNOW that he tested it in HL on. I played vs it IRL.
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Don't go there. Trust me.
 
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Great article. I've been playing a similar deck for quite some time, and I think one critical thing you failed to mentioned in the strategy is how important it is to discard energies with your supporters. You cannot super connect if there's nothing to connect in discard. This is especially important since when you mudslide, you're taking energy out of discard but your discarding a castform instead, so that's one net loss of energy in discard. Another thing to watch out for is when you farmer, you're forced to take back up to 3 basic energies in the discard, so if you only have 3 or less psychics in discard, when you farmer, you're forced to shuffle then all back to the deck which may prevent you from super connectivity that same turn (so super connect before you farmer).
 
Shadow Zangoose said:
You THINK you invented this deck. That's some incorrect information you have there my friend. Because supertyranitar played MetaLix in the Lusby MD CC on November 19. And besides, he's been testing varients of this deck since before regionals of last year. So, if anything, i'd say that he made this deck. Not to say that you haven't contributed to it, but he invented, because i KNOW that he tested it in HL on. I played vs it IRL.

Just figured i'd post this, because it kinda erked me a little.

And to all the haters, i LIKE the name MSNBC.
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Yea dont go there lol Cause once you say ppl who have been playin this since hl-on its basically anyone who played smp lol And at the time blasty was clearly superior then any other energy supplier in the game. Like i said its like ludicargo or metanite it was just common sense. Some cards just fit together and metagross with steelix and queen just do. I think i have won 90 percent of my flygon match ups, metanite is also very easy. Mercury being dead but easily the hardest match up for this deck. I dont agree with the list but yet if i did it would **** me off cause everyone will netdeck so nice article Flaming_Spinach :thumb: This deck is going to look very different once pk comes out thats for sure....
 
Fire-type hurts your deck pretty bad, so you need some way of getting around it. LatiOs ex gives you that and more. It’s also a free-retreater, a pseudo-safeguarder, and one more good starting basic. It provides so many functions, how can you say ‘no’?



That pretty much explains it.
 
Flaming_Spinach said:
Fire-type hurts your deck pretty bad, so you need some way of getting around it. LatiOs ex gives you that and more. It’s also a free-retreater, a pseudo-safeguarder, and one more good starting basic. It provides so many functions, how can you say ‘no’?



That pretty much explains it.
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So every deck should play Latios d ex then? I'm not turning this into a Latios d ex discusion here, I'm just asking.
 
So every deck should play Latios d ex then? I'm not turning this into a Latios d ex discusion here, I'm just asking.
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If your deck has fire weakness, or plays any holon's pokemon, or wants to stop houndoom, OR wants to win.

^ Then, yes.
 
Why else do you think it's becoming so common?

:wink: :wink:



Every deck that plays Holons Castform should consider using LatiOs d ex. And if you have some method of powering it up in one turn, that's much better than powering it up manually.

There are very few decks that CAN'T make use of LatiOs. Boom is the only one that comes to mind, as it plays Safeguard Banette instead (which, coincidentally, destroys LatiOs).

I've even seen it played in Raieggs and Mewtric. O.O
 
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