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¿Which is the ultimate deck?

Dante63s

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¿Which is the ultimate deck?


The Folowing 10 decks are the best 10 decks out there i am not listing them from best to worse,
just saying then when it comes down to it, they are the best, and i am only gonna list the pros and cons
of each decks, ask if you want to now the how eny of the decks work.

Here are the best 2006/2007 DX-ON decks (decks are only up to CG):

FLARIADOS:

Pros:
Really Fast Damage
Really Fast Setup
Heavy Damage only for 1 energy
A lot of Disruption

Cons:
Ariados is really easy to get K.O.
Fast Damage maby only for 1 turn
The deck is based on the roll of the dice
Cessation Crystal herts a little


LUNASOL:

Pros:
Really Fast Setup
Good Damage for 2 energys
Fast Recovery (after a lunatone gets K.O. their is usualy another one ready)
Free Retreat Cost (what i meen is that Reversal wont do much)
Easy to use

Cons:
Raichu/Minun Destroys You
Cessation Crystal herts
Really Low Damage
Space Center/Giant Stup herts a lot
Based on hoy many Solrocks


LUDICARGO:

Pros:
Heavy Damage
Search Engine (macargo/ludicolo)
Preatty Fast Damage (scamble and double rainboy)

Cons:
Cessation Crystal
CurseStone/CrystalBeach/GianStup hert a little not thet much, cause the search engine
Macargo (in some cases reversal/roselia/ariados might cost you a turn or two)


METANITE:

Pros:
Unlimited Damage
Heavy Damage Every Turn
Search Engine (macargo/holon ruins or delta control)

Cons:
Cessation Cristal
Hard Setup
Macargo, if it uses it, (in some cases reversal/roselia/ariados might cost you a turn or two)


RAIEGGS:
Pros:
Easy Setup
Fast Damage
Easy to use

Cons:
GiantStup/CrystalBeach will hert
Houndoom will be a killer (since you play mostly non supperter trainers)


MEGALIX or MEGANIUM/GRONDOUN:

Pros:
Heavy Damage
Fast Damage
Bench Hitter (with Steelix or Kyogre)

Cons:
Cessation Crystal is a killer
To Many Exs (safe guard might be a problem)
Crystal Beach, ahhhh...
Fire and Grass will destroy you


BANNETTE/HOUNDOOM:

Pros:
Fast Damage
Heavy Damage Every Turn
Opponent Cant Play Trainers (noy always)
Fast Recovery (after a Bannette gets K.O. their is usualy another one ready)
SHIFTRY EX is not good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:clap:

Cons:
SHIFTRY EX, not cause of its poke-body. because of resisteance and weekness (medicham will help)
Low Hp


SHIFTRY/WEEZING:

Pros:
Your Opponent might think twice before using a poke-power
Bench Hitter
Kills you slowly all at one time

Cons:
Semi-Hard Setup
BattleFrontier/CessationCrystal
ER2 (might hert if you dont have a dark energy in you hand)
WEEKNESS COME FLARIADOS AND LUNATONE AND EXEGUTOR; bybey...


SWAMPERT/LUGIA:

Pros:
Really Heavy Damage
Opponent cant Attack (with Holon Circle)
Opponent Cant Play Stadium (golduck D)

Cons:
Slow Setup
You Maby cant attack (Holon Circle)
Latios/Latias (by golduck)
Cessation Crystal


DELCATTY/MEW/GYARADOS*:

Pros:
Really Heavy Damage
Fast Setup
Posiblity of using opponents attacks

Cons:
Usualy you will lose cause of no cards left in the deck
Asleep/confused/parylized will make you lose
Cessation Crystal
Need 4 fire energys to do masive damage
Gyarados* (in some cases reversal/roselia/ariados might cost you a turn or two)


MERCURY:

Pros:
Stop Poke-Power and Poke-Bodies (gardy ex d)
Can win a lost game with RAY*
Energy Manipulation
80 for 3 energys and pass a energy to a pokemon is GOOD!!!

Cons:
Could be a slow setup
BANETTE EX, AHHHHH....
Need 2 hits to KO pokemon-ex

Arcanine EX/Houndoom

PROS
-Fast Setups
-Disruptions
-Fast Damage

Cons
-Safeguard pokemon kill this deck
-Alot of mullligans
-Cessation Crystal

Polistall

PROS
-Stalls
-Great HP
-Hard to KO

CONS
-Slow Set Up
-Once Politoed is KOED your screwed
-To many things will disrupt you when your setting politoed up such as reverals and er2's/

Flygon EX/Jolteon EX/Espeon EX

PROS
-Spreads damage really quick
-New age rock lock
-Heavy damage

CONS
-Slow set up
-Safeguard kills this deck
-Cessation Crystal

Mewtric

PROS
-Disruption
-Fast setup
-Low retreat cost

CONS
-Safeguard kills this deck
-Low HP
-Raieggs kills this deck

Burning Liability

PROS
-OHKO the opponents toughest pokemon using weezings liability
-Heavy Damage
-Low retreat cost

CONS
-Hard to setup sometimes
-Dies easily

OVERALL:
BANNETTE/HOUNDOOM: 9/10
FLIGON/JOLTEON: 9/10 MIGHT BE GOOD WITH HOLON CASTFORM SETUP
FLARIADOS: 9/10
RAIEGGS: 9/10
MEGANIUM/GRONDOUN: 8/10
LIABILITY:8/10
RK9/HOUNDOOM:8/10
LUDICARGO: 8/10
METANITE: 8/10
MERCURY: 8/10
MEWTRICK:8/10
LUNASOL: 7/10
MEGALIX: 7/10
BANCHAM: 7/10
SHIFTRY/WEEZING: 7/10
POLISTALL:7/10
SWAMPERT/LUGIA: 6/10
VAPOREON/CRAWUNT: 6/10 (didt list cause i am not familiar with it)
DELCATTY/MEW/GYARADOS*: 5/10

Other decks:


SMP: you would think the this would be a good decks since the only real pain of
Szisor was Lugia, but pidgeot was fundamental to the decks and Porygon2 and Macargo
are not the same.

EspyCham: Pow hand, devo flash and admin was the best but now it is reversal,
devo flash and Vaporeon Ex (dont remember the poke-power name), just isnt the same, lol...

Here is the Top 5 loses of change of format, why:
1: Blastoise Ex
2:pIDGEOT
3: Pow Hand
4: Swoop Telerporter
5: Rocket Admin


When it comes down to it, it all depends and what decks do they play in your local league.
Usually new decks pop right up and win a national (raieggs), they win cause nobody is prepaird
for that deck. We are all gonna be prepare for Gardy Ex and Tyranitar Ex their gonna change the
game in a way, by the way does enybody now, if i evolve will the marker get removed???, so to get back to
subjeck:

¿Which is the ultimate deck?

For me it WAS FLARIADOS, but maby it is only my favorite cause i dont have x3 Shiftry ex, lol.
But on the other hand why it is good for me, Basicaly cause it doest have eny bad maches and
always a good start, and you can win a lost game. Bannete/hooundoom is my second deck cause it
only haves one bad mach-up and more less you auto-loss, what deck is it???, duuhh, Shiftry Ex.
And now i am now trying to get x3 ry ex, jajajja...

FLARIADOS IS JUST GOOD BUT NOT ENOUGH, LOL :frown: :frown: :frown:

Deck List

Pokemon:

x4 Spinarak
x4 Ariados
x4 Eevee
x3 Flareon ex
x1 Espeon ex
x1 Umbreon Ex
x1 Holon Electrode

Trainers:

x3 Mary Request
x4 PETM
x4 Great Ball
x4 P. Reversal
x4 SSU
x3 Full Flame
x2 Copicat
x2 Steaven Advice
x2 Master Ball
x2 Winsstorm

Energis:

x4 Multy
x8 Grass

Hope i could help you :thumb: , post me and i will add Pros and Cons if i think they are good to mention.

Back to the start:

¿Which is the ultimate deck,FOR YOU?

BANETTE IS TO GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THEIR IS NO BEST DECK!!!:eek:


Dante Lenell, Pokemon TCG Player:pokeball:

by....

Back to back posts merged. The following information has been added:

Sorry for Rating this deck:
VAPOREON/CRAWUNT: 6/10 (didt list cause i am not familiar with it)

That number doest meen enything...
 
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I really don't like to play Flariados for the fact that it is a "luck-factor deck." I don't do good with coin flips or rolls, it seems I always roll or flip tails.

What about Mewtric, you didn't list that. The only card that was lost that hurts the deck is admin.
 
This will be moved...



Nice analasis, but I don't see flariados being the best deck in the format. It's just too dependant on flips to be any good.

Oh, and BTW, the top5 losses should look like this:

1. Admin
2. Pow!
3. Swoop!
4. Blastoise
5. Desert Ruins
 
I think
1. Swoop!
2. Blastoise ex
3. Admin
4. Pow!
5. ATM [Rock]


I think is too early to make a thread like this. Half of the deck you listed didn't won anything at the moment (Meganium/Groudon, Swampert/Lugia, Shiftry/Weezing, Crawdaunt/Vaporeon, Delcatty/Mew/Gyarados*, etc)

Only to throw a deck to the list, but taking this as an "promises list", i would add Cacturne/Pelipper.
 
Kenshin said:
I think
1. Swoop!
2. Blastoise ex
3. Admin
4. Pow!
5. ATM [Rock]

That's a good one to.

I just remembered Pokemon retriever. That's anothr awesome card that we lost to the rotation.
 
Yeah, but not a big lose. We have Farmer

The reason of my list:
1. Swoop! <--- Jirachi is nearly useless now and Pow Da Cham is gone
2. Blastoise ex <--- We lost one of (for some people THE) the best decks. All for 1 card.
3. Admin <--- That one was in ALL decks, at least 1/2
4. Pow! <--- Same as Admin
5. ATM [Rock] <--- Would help decks like Shiftry ex/Weezing or Cacturne d. Or even Flygon ex d when it comes (I know ex pokémon can't use this things, but you can use it with vibrava or something)
 
Here's the real top 5:

1. Nidoqueen RG
2. Nidorina RG
3. Nidoran F RG
4. Pidgeot RG
5. Pidgey RG
 
Oh, how I forget pidgeot!
And I agree with ToyRUsKid's list. Not Blastoise ex because adding Blastoise ex to this list is like adding Nidoqueen, Dark Tyranitar, Electrode ex, etc.
 
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Surprise time machine is a loss? Ummm... >_>
Admin is by far the biggest loss.

Flariados a 9/10? Ewww.... it's such a lucksac deck. I hate it.
 
Venusaur said:
Here's the real top 5:

1. Nidoqueen RG
2. Nidorina RG
3. Nidoran F RG
4. Pidgeot RG
5. Pidgey RG
:lol:

Biggest loss is easily Retriever! Every deck ran it and every deck is now not as good with out it. Farmer was not a replacement for Retriever before the rotation, and it is not a replacement now.

1. Retriever
2. Swoop!
3. Rock
4. Pow!
5. Admin.
 
TRR AND FRLG AND HL are all = imo.

TRR had Admin
FRLG had Pidgeot
HL had ATM Rock and Desert ruins, the only thing keeping those darned ex's in check
Actually, every set has had something new that everyone uses. DX had Magcargo, DS had the Holon Engine, EM had BF and Medicham, HP had Raieggs...


BTW, Raieggs not only does quick damage, it does a lot of damage, and houndoom doesn't hurt it that much, if you see it coming, just Cess.crystal it or Zzzzap a lot.


EDIT: V Pffft, I know a world champ or two who did ;P
 
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moza said:
TRR AND FRLG AND HL are all = imo.

TRR had Admin
FRLG had Pidgeot
HL had ATM Rock and Desert ruins, the only thing keeping those darned ex's in check
Actually, every set has had something new that everyone uses. DX had Magcargo, DS had the Holon Engine, EM had BF and Medicham, HP had Raieggs...


BTW, Raieggs not only does quick damage, it does a lot of damage, and houndoom doesn't hurt it that much, if you see it coming, just Cess.crystal it or Zzzzap a lot.


EDIT: V Pffft, I know a world champ or two who did ;P

Yeah, sure, Cessation Crystal is a supporter :rolleyes:
 
Yeah maby i didt think much when i wrote the top 5, jajaja... I am not saying thet flariadosis the best deck, but it is a good deck, lol. Raieggs ismostly based on playing trainers so if it loses that it is not as good...Then what is the best deck?
 
Kenshin, I said if you see it coming, I know you couldn't play it with Houndoom out:sadface: Wish you could though.

Dante63s, there is no best deck, that is the beauty of this game, there is no "one all powerful" deck, they can all compete with eachother.
 
ryanvergel said:
Surprise time machine is a loss? Ummm... >_>
Admin is by far the biggest loss.

Flariados a 9/10? Ewww.... it's such a lucksac deck. I hate it.

I went undefeated at a GC with it and got pwned by it in top8 Nationals.
 
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