Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

¿Which is the ultimate deck?

(TYranitarFReak) said:
metanite shouldnt even be on the list....., it's bad , slow and inconsistence. If it ever face a stage 2 ex, it discards nearly 5-6 energy to get the OHKO, and during the next turn, it would be very dificult to recover from the loss of energy cards.
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First of all the deck is not that bad second someone will have a hard trime recovering from an ex loss, third a good metanite player can recover in one turn if you know hoe to play the deck, fourth it is in no way incosistent.

Kenshin's Garde said:
metanite, flariados, and lunasol are TERRIBLE!!!! metanite is too slow in this format, flarados is just bad, and lunasol isn't even a deck. i'd rather play arcanine then these, and i h8 arcanine.
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Well first of all lunasol won world...not a deck huh =/
next metinite is not slow when played right turn 2 or 3 seems pretty fast to me
Flariados no comment I don't know the deck well enough

Your reasons are all based on theory give some facts next time you post



I have no idea why but it seems that several people get really ticked off at the mention of metantie. I don't know if you don't like the deck or what but geez some people just go into flame mode whenever the name comes up.


Hey for all you metanite haters out there. Ask yourself this

If metanite was that bad, why is the archtype deck the longest thread in that forum?
Why did a japanese player Top4 with it at worlds in 15+?
 
come on , what with chargon... i have my bets on it...
it´s a good deck really fast to set up and deals a heavy amount of damage per turn if you have the right hand .
you draw a delta pokemon card per turn with fearow and have almost a good turn 2 set up dealing a good amount of damage if you are lucky when flipping the top 5 cards
 
Yeah Tyanitar ex d and Gardevoid ex d are gonna change the game in a way...

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I forgot all about Chargon, it is a good deck but it needs a really good initial hand.
 
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Absoltrainer said:
First of all the deck is not that bad second someone will have a hard trime recovering from an ex loss, third a good metanite player can recover in one turn if you know hoe to play the deck, fourth it is in no way incosistent.

Well first of all lunasol won world...not a deck huh =/
next metinite is not slow when played right turn 2 or 3 seems pretty fast to me
Flariados no comment I don't know the deck well enough

Your reasons are all based on theory give some facts next time you post



I have no idea why but it seems that several people get really ticked off at the mention of metantie. I don't know if you don't like the deck or what but geez some people just go into flame mode whenever the name comes up.


Hey for all you metanite haters out there. Ask yourself this

If metanite was that bad, why is the archtype deck the longest thread in that forum?
Why did a japanese player Top4 with it at worlds in 15+?
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Honestly, I don't see how anybody can even take anything you post seriously. You don't know how to spell, you don't know how to use proper grammar, and you don't even have an idea how half of the decks in the format work.

Stop living in the past, people! This is a new format, and everyone saying "we won't know what's good until cities" is full of crap. You learn more about a format by testing with GOOD players, finding out what is a good deck. Cities are tournaments usually filled with few very good players, depending on the location. Going 31-5 or whatever at a league is nothing either, you need to test your decks vs a gauntlet of good players and not brag about winning a pre release in your signature. You really don't get why I don't take you seriously? Well there's a bunch of reasons right there.
 
^ We don't know what will be *played* until cities, will Shiftry be big? Or will people see all the hype about Sunny D and counter that? No one knows yet.

31-5 at certain leages is a very good record, my league has 2 T4 people from worlds(1 2005, 1 2006), and several T16 at nats, and we also have somethingelse, so don't think that all leagues are filled with n00bs, some leagues do have very talented players, and leages are also the basis of Pre-City metagames.

Also, don't kill the messenger, Absoltrainer is a teen, we are not all english majors, so don't expect us to be. Don't kill the messenger, just kill the message.
 
Personally I love Delta Pokemon, and i will go to bat for Metanite. Everyone seems to be forgetting about this little thing called Tech. I've done alot tech work on my Metanite deck and i can take just about anything trown my way. I've destroyed Flariados so many times that i've lost count.

Fact: Metanite is only going to get stronger. With the way the Pokemon TCG is shifting into nothing but delta pokemon, the deck will start having more options opening up for it. Take a look a Dragon Frontires. I've already made a list of the cards i want that will improve Metanite. Examples:

Ninetales d - Psychic - HP70
Stage 1 - Evolves from Vulpix

Poke-Power: Substitution
Once during your turn, you may remove 4 damage counters from Ninetales and discard the
highest stage Evolution card from Ninetales (this counts as devolving Ninetales).
Then, search your deck for a Ninetales or Ninetales ex and play it on top of Vulpix
(this counts as evolving Vulpix). Shuffle your deck afterward.

[C][C] Illusion Tail: 30 damage. Search your discard pile for an Energy card and
attach it to 1 of your Pokemon.

Time to tear up Flariados, and Mewtric with a psyker.

Cloyster - Fighting - HP70
Stage 1 - Evolves from Shellder

Poke-Body: Hard Shell
Prevent all effects of attacks, including damage, done to any of your Benched Pokemon
with "d" on its card by your opponent's Active Pokemon.

[F] Grind: Does 10 damage + an additional 10 damage for each Energy attached to
Cloyster.

Say goodbye to raieggs.

Pinsir d - Fighting - HP60
Basic

Poke-Body: Scramble
If your opponent has at least 5 cards in his or her hand, any damage done to Pinsir is
reduced by 30.

[C] Delta Call: Search your deck for a Pokemon with "d" on its card, show it to your
opponent, and put it in your hand. Shuffle your deck afterward.
[F][C][C] Guillotine: 40 damage.

Say goodbye to most 2-2 Fearrow d. Raieggs and Mewtric will hurt too.

Ampharos d - Colorless - HP120
Stage 2 - Evolves from Flaaffy

Poke-Body: Holon Veil
Treat all of your Pokemon cards in play, in your deck, in your hand, and in your
discard pile as if they have "d" on their card.

[C][C][C] Delta Circle: Does 20 damage + 10 more damage for each Pokemon with "d" on
its card that you have in play.

Weakness: Fighting
Resistance: none
Retreat: 2

Speeks for itself.

Tropius d - Steel - HP70
Basic

Poke-Power: Tropical Healing
You may use this Power once during your turn, when you play Tropius from your hand
onto your Bench. Remove all Special Conditions from each of your Active Pokemon, and
remove all Seal Markers and Thunderquake Markers from all of your Pokemon.

[M] Grind: Does 10 damage times the amount of Energy on Tropius.

Weakness: Fire
Resistance: none
Retreat: 1

Tyranitar d's one weekness.

I can keep going if you want me too but i'll stop their for now. The other thing you have to remeber as the format changes, decks change or they die. And Delta decks are very versitile as most of them use the same cards in the Holon engine(the best engine in the format now) and they can tech in Windstorms and Warp Points(i did to counter Cessatation crystal, Battle frontire, pretty much anything to stop my powers from being turned off).

As much a people love their old decks, it's time to wake up and smell the roses, the Delta revolution has begun.
 
Ninetails against Flariados 0.o? Doesn't even OHKO Ariados.

Cloyster is shut off by cessation crystal.

Pinsir is not as good as Holon's castoform or fearow, BTW, a 1-1 line will suffice(for fearow).

Amphy >.< You already play 2 stage 2 lines, no space for another.

Troupius, what deck isn't going to play that :tongue:


Not saying your idea's aren't bad, but you won't be able to fit all of that in, there is no way at all. I can see 1-2 of those, but not the ones you listed.


OT: There is no ultimate deck.


EDIT: BTW, 2222nd post. I did it. Not even a year yet on the gym:thumb:
 
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moza said:
Ninetails against Flariados 0.o? Doesn't even OHKO Ariados.

Cloyster is shut off by cessation crystal.

Pinsir is not as good as Holon's castoform or fearow, BTW, a 1-1 line will suffice(for fearow).

Amphy >.< You already play 2 stage 2 lines, no space for another.

Troupius, what deck isn't going to play that :tongue:


Not saying your idea's aren't bad, but you won't be able to fit all of that in, there is no way at all. I can see 1-2 of those, but not the ones you listed.


OT: There is no ultimate deck.
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Obviously i can't play all of them, but i was just mentioning them as tech and adjustment cards. I think Ninetails will work well, even if it's not a one turn kill, easy to kill Mew ex by turn 2. Anyway, the point is, most of the decks in the past formats have died or will die soon due to the increase in Delta Pokemon. Besides, what do you think will fit in MetaNite from the new set?
 
I think Draggy ex d will be big in metanite. I also think there is a much better psy pokemon to use than Ninetails, but that is another team secret(If you want to join, lmk).
 
Any one of you who says that Metanite is slow feel free to send me a PM to play APP. I'll play Metanite.
 
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Scizor said:
Honestly, I don't see how anybody can even take anything you post seriously. You don't know how to spell, you don't know how to use proper grammar, and you don't even have an idea how half of the decks in the format work.
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man I really don't want to start anything but I will defend myself.

I feel I spell well enough that you can read. It is not like I type like this " i tink dat dis is g8. wat is yur fav card i lik charzard.

That is bad typing:rolleyes:

Like moza said I am a teen so if you can't stand a few spelling errors then oh well


CRY ME A RIVER, BUILD A BRIDGE, AND GET OVER IT!

Scizor said:
Stop living in the past, people! This is a new format, and everyone saying "we won't know what's good until cities" is full of crap. You learn more about a format by testing with GOOD players, finding out what is a good deck. Cities are tournaments usually filled with few very good players, depending on the location. Going 31-5 or whatever at a league is nothing either, you need to test your decks vs a gauntlet of good players and not brag about winning a pre release in your signature. You really don't get why I don't take you seriously? Well there's a bunch of reasons right there.
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How am I living in the past....wait by showing my what I accomplished last season, sorry:rolleyes:.

How is that full of crap so you know what the top deck will be?.....no

Do I? no

FYI I test my decks against decks that I have lousy matchups to hence why I made that list. That way I can figure out the stratagey I need to use to beat that deck if I ever face it. Are you saying the players at my leuge are bad...cause that is pretty stupid.

Oh so it's a crime to put in my sig how well I did over the last season well tell that to these guys hmmm, do you not respect them either.

http://pokegym.net/forums/member.php?u=5124
http://pokegym.net/forums/member.php?u=3429
http://pokegym.net/forums/member.php?u=2682
http://pokegym.net/forums/member.php?u=5115
http://pokegym.net/forums/member.php?u=4941
http://pokegym.net/forums/member.php?u=3662

Just a few other people who put their accoplishments in their sig do you hate them too


-->Oh yeah your entire post was one big flame so just drop it ok, I like metanite you don't get over it and stop flaming!

Thanks moza for backing me up.
 
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Well, there's a reason why I didn't put up any of my placings from last year, all the T8 at the gcs, regs, states, and cities I entered I'm pretty ashamed of.
 
Ok let's get back on subject. So i like metanite, as well as all Delta Pokemon, and from experience, I say MetaNite is the best deck in the format. Like all decks, it has it's weeknesses, but if you compensate for it you'll find it easier to take on your harder matches.
 
I had a pretty good list, but it mostly relied on luck. The deck is a little two unstable, but once Ninetails d comes out, i think he'll be playable.
 
ok so i didnt create it because i didn't post it on pokegym first?... sounds.... like horrible reasoning. anyways, flariados ftw.
 
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