True, very true and Niniken probably will play them. But see blaziken/EX/manectric is faster than niniken logically because you don't have to bench your attacker to bring up a powered up attacker, you can easily move the energy up with manectric and keep doing 100 every turn. And don't say ninetails is a better attacker because if you want blaziken can OHKO every card in niniken(other then blaziken EX).Pidgeotto Trainer said:
Ban Blaziken Ex: Save The Format
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First off,Nike:It`s been stated a thousand times on the boards that abbreviating inappropriate words is against the rules.We`ve let people go with just warnings and it still happens.This time is the last time I will let it go.If ANYONE posts an abbreviation of innappropriate word(s) anywhere on these boards,I`ll give an automatic temp ban(or possibly worse for a multiple offender).I`m tired of telling people a thousand times.Ignorance of the rules is NO excuse.
Second,a few people need to lessen their tone down just a tad.The discussion was going good,so let`s keep it that way.I don`t want to lock this.If people can`t come on here and discuss things,they will be dealt with.
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Second,a few people need to lessen their tone down just a tad.The discussion was going good,so let`s keep it that way.I don`t want to lock this.If people can`t come on here and discuss things,they will be dealt with.
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Tyranitar666
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Omg
First off, don't you guys think that the insane price this card is going for MAY BE a good judge of how broken everyone can tell it is? Just a BIT???
Anyways I have a HUGE rebuttal to everything that was LOST the first time i typed it up so I had to do it again.
Ok, a few things here. Its understandable that people do not believe the brokeness of this combo because its a new card and they have not used it yet. I would like to also say that those who say Gardevoir beats it are overrating Gardy and underrating Blaziken. Gardevoir could not beat Blaziken Rayquaza BEFORE Blaziken EX came out. That is a proven fact. How does adding an extra card NOT taking away any cards that make the deck dominate Gardevoir give Gardy ANY edge? Blaziken EX just does not need to be put into play AT ALL in that match up. Its that simple, Honestly. Gardevoir gained NOTHING from the new set. Psychic gained nothing at all. The new set is HORRIBLE for MF basically. Walrein, Manectric and blaziken EX are the only viable cards, MAYBE Sceptile EX.
I had a huge response to as why Blaziken EX was broken and what made it too good for the format but as I posted it ( took 2 hours to type it! ) it didnt go through as I go\t an error message. SOOOO let me try this again.
First, I am fed up with people not understanding what Blaziken decks do exactly. I will post Pre and Post TA TM lists. Here we go.
4 Torchic
2 Combusken
4 Blaziken
4 DUnsparce
2 Skitty
2 Delcatty
2 Rayquaza
2 Mareep
1 Flaaffy
2 Ampharos ( EXP )
12 Fire
4 Lightning
4 Oracle
4 TV Reporter
4 Professor Oak's Research
1 Switch
1 Town Volunteer
1 Warp Point
4 Rare Candy
4 Torchic
2 Combusken
4 Blaziken
1 Blaziken EX
4 DUnsparce
2 Skitty
2 Delcatty
2 Rayquaza
2 Electrike
2 Manectric
12 Fire
4 Lightning
4 Oracle
4 TV Reporter
4 Professor Oak's Research
1 Switch
1 Town Volunteer
1 Warp Point
4 Rare Candy
Lets get a match up by match up review of Blaziken Ampharos Rayquaza vs the best decks currently BEFORE Blaziken EX.
Kingdra EX- Kingdra has the natural type advantage against Blaziken, but it is not enough. Blaziken attacks first. This draws out Kingdra. Rayquaza or AMpharos OHKO Kingdra. AMphy is best in order to give up less prizes plus Ampharos is not able to be OHKOed by even a max powered Kingdra. Kingdra cannot OHKO everything in the deck but Blaz can do it to Kingdra. Kingdra CAN beat Blaziken but its not as good as many say it is. Not with Ampharos being used. Kingdra relies on the boost energy to deal 50 out of no energy. It gives it a fighting chance. One of the few iffy match ups.
Gardevoir EX- Easy match up. Gardevoir has issues with Blaziken as Rayquaza can OHKO Gardy EX< and the rest of the deck gets mutiliated by repeated Blaziken attacks. Gardevoirs draw power is also inconsistant compared to Blazikens. Blaziken also has the ability to regulate its hand size and energy in play to control what Gardevoir EX can do vs it. This is huge and a good player will manipulate this to win the game. Gardevoir can add a 3-3 Wailord to even the match up though, but it reduces consistancy by a good deal.
Ampharos EX_ EASIEST MATCH EVER. AMpharos cannot OHKO your Blazikens so they run wild and any threats get KOed by Rayquaza. AMpharos cannot add more energy in play than normal and thus Blaziken swarms and not only can they trade off Rayquaza for anything ( ASSUMING they have Crystal Shard or Ditto for ur Ray ) but they cannot keep up as u have more threats powerable.
Aggron wailord- Aggron is WORTHLESS hear as it gets OHKOed by Rayquaza and only one Aggron is really powerable in one game, so therefore its Wailord vs the world here. Wailord does its job though, with Crystal Shards, OHKOing many things. Ampharos helps out here as offense, luring Wailords out. Wailord can give it a run if it gets set up first though, due to Crystal Shard. Still hard.
Muk EX- If it gets a good start it beats most Blaziken decks consistantly because it loses its consitant draw power and ability to recharge. Muks swarm reallly easily and Blaziken relies on its PPs. Rayquaza is the only real answer to killing Muks as they run Low Pressure System so that a Muk can survive 2 shots from a Blaziken.
Crystal Shard/Ditto- these cards can be added into any deck that can deal with Blaziken Swarms in order to beat Rayquaza and give u a decent chance at winning the match up sometimes.
NOW we look at a few things. What shows up as big threats? The following.
Wailord with Boost
Muk EX
Crystal Shard/Ditto
Wailord is a threat as it can be tossed into any deck as its colorless and canc ome out of no where due to Boost ENergy. Due to Shard as well, it can handle Rayquaza AND Blaziken and thus is a major threat. Now we have an issue. Lets add Blaziken EX into the equation. Blaziken is not OHKOable by Wailord, where as the rest of the deck used to be. It can deal 100 to the bench, and KO any Wailmers before they become Wailords. It can also deal 100 to a benched Wailord and if they attack you than they KO themselves. If you hit twice with a normal Blazikens attack, than it can OHKO a Wailord on the bench. Blaziken EX makes Wailord infinitely more managable and allows it so you can take a shot and not give up a prize and than get a KO on it. That is a HUGE advantage.
Muk EX is a huge threat because it makes you discard energy to all your energy to KO it with Rayquaza only to get a 2nd and than 3rd Muk active to beat down on you and KO Rayquaza. Now you have Blaziken EX. At BEAST Muk needs 3 hits to KO it. If you get him built up by turn 5, your KOing 2 Blaziken EX in a row, and by turn 7 or 8 you can kill 3 Muk EX. If they do not drop Muk EX against you than you get your powers. You nearly automatically beat Muk EX because of a lone Blaziken EX. That is absolutely unfair in every sense of the word.
Shard/Ditto- This card gives you an alternative big hitter to Rayquaza who is not as easily countered by Shard or Ditto. You have viable offense in Blaziken, Blaziken EX, AMpharos AND Rayquaza. No deck can fight them all off effectively. That is what is so inapprorpriate. TOO MANY THREATS that are impossible to prepare for them all.
SO Blaziken EX fits into the most consistant and deadly deck in the format currently, and not only defeats all of its major weaknesses which were not even that weak to begin with, but it gives it more versitility. It also makes it so that if you get a weak slow start you LOSE AUTOMATICALLY. If you do not get something offensive by turn 4, Blaziken EX is active and killing anything ur building and u just lost the game. THAT ALONE IS UNBALANCED. The threat for a card to come out and just lock down an entire game no matter what deck it is facing SHOULD NOT EXIST. That is a major reason why Slowking was banned. If you establish control with a Blaziken deck, and than bring up Blaziken EX, they cannot effectively ever recover. Say you OHKO whatever they have with a Rayquaza. You than bring up Blaz EX and they never get set up again. HOW IS THAT FAIR. Gardevoir cannot use its type advantage if its Gardevoir EX is OHKOed by a Rayquaza and whenever they lay downa Ralts it gets hit for 100 freaking damage!!! Rayquaza resets actives, killing their offense, and Blaziken EX preventsthem from ever recovering. Its not a theory guys. It happens every time. I have been testing it for a month after school every day. It happens JUST LIKE THAT. Alot of people hate me. Alot of people. But I think everyone knows I do really test, and that my opinions are decks are well founded. I dont make claims that are on no grounds.
Slowking was unbalanced because it never gave an opponent a fair chance to recover, or to start off a game even. Blaziken EX does the same exact thing but is added into an even more broken deck. Slowking had Muk, Igglybuff, and Magby as counters to it. Nothing is a counter to Blaziken EX. Say psychic all you want, say Water all you want, but Psychic will not single handedly beat a NORMAL BLAZIKEN RAYQUAZA DECK. You simply change strategies and crush it that way. The deck already beat water. THis just makes it easier as once your Rayquaza KOs their active they can never get a water guy set up with enough energy or evolutions ever again. Muk, and the other tech cards could be splashed into any deck. This card beats every type, and is a 100% Win vs anything NOT psychic or water. That is not fair. It is unhealthy to the format and makes for a stale game. Its not even worth testing anymore as NOTHING CAN BEAT IT.
ANother reason it is not fair is because their are no Gust Of Wind effects in this format AT ALL besides Salamence and Victreebel. Your effectively giving Blaziken, the best deck, a Gust Of Wind comboed with 100 damage. Your giving it an aspect of the game intentionally left OUT of this format for a REASON. Your giving the best deck an option that won entire games in all other formats!!! And ONLY to the best deck! That is so unbalanced it is not even funny. Blaziken Ex MUST be banned. I am EXTREMELY vocal about this beyond anything else I have ever been upset about in this game. Please listen agree. The only way things can be changed is if enough people are vocal. Those who are in support of this, speak out! Post your support! Email Nintendo your worries! They have done an AMAZING job thus far! They may listen!
First off, don't you guys think that the insane price this card is going for MAY BE a good judge of how broken everyone can tell it is? Just a BIT???
Anyways I have a HUGE rebuttal to everything that was LOST the first time i typed it up so I had to do it again.
Ok, a few things here. Its understandable that people do not believe the brokeness of this combo because its a new card and they have not used it yet. I would like to also say that those who say Gardevoir beats it are overrating Gardy and underrating Blaziken. Gardevoir could not beat Blaziken Rayquaza BEFORE Blaziken EX came out. That is a proven fact. How does adding an extra card NOT taking away any cards that make the deck dominate Gardevoir give Gardy ANY edge? Blaziken EX just does not need to be put into play AT ALL in that match up. Its that simple, Honestly. Gardevoir gained NOTHING from the new set. Psychic gained nothing at all. The new set is HORRIBLE for MF basically. Walrein, Manectric and blaziken EX are the only viable cards, MAYBE Sceptile EX.
I had a huge response to as why Blaziken EX was broken and what made it too good for the format but as I posted it ( took 2 hours to type it! ) it didnt go through as I go\t an error message. SOOOO let me try this again.
First, I am fed up with people not understanding what Blaziken decks do exactly. I will post Pre and Post TA TM lists. Here we go.
4 Torchic
2 Combusken
4 Blaziken
4 DUnsparce
2 Skitty
2 Delcatty
2 Rayquaza
2 Mareep
1 Flaaffy
2 Ampharos ( EXP )
12 Fire
4 Lightning
4 Oracle
4 TV Reporter
4 Professor Oak's Research
1 Switch
1 Town Volunteer
1 Warp Point
4 Rare Candy
4 Torchic
2 Combusken
4 Blaziken
1 Blaziken EX
4 DUnsparce
2 Skitty
2 Delcatty
2 Rayquaza
2 Electrike
2 Manectric
12 Fire
4 Lightning
4 Oracle
4 TV Reporter
4 Professor Oak's Research
1 Switch
1 Town Volunteer
1 Warp Point
4 Rare Candy
Lets get a match up by match up review of Blaziken Ampharos Rayquaza vs the best decks currently BEFORE Blaziken EX.
Kingdra EX- Kingdra has the natural type advantage against Blaziken, but it is not enough. Blaziken attacks first. This draws out Kingdra. Rayquaza or AMpharos OHKO Kingdra. AMphy is best in order to give up less prizes plus Ampharos is not able to be OHKOed by even a max powered Kingdra. Kingdra cannot OHKO everything in the deck but Blaz can do it to Kingdra. Kingdra CAN beat Blaziken but its not as good as many say it is. Not with Ampharos being used. Kingdra relies on the boost energy to deal 50 out of no energy. It gives it a fighting chance. One of the few iffy match ups.
Gardevoir EX- Easy match up. Gardevoir has issues with Blaziken as Rayquaza can OHKO Gardy EX< and the rest of the deck gets mutiliated by repeated Blaziken attacks. Gardevoirs draw power is also inconsistant compared to Blazikens. Blaziken also has the ability to regulate its hand size and energy in play to control what Gardevoir EX can do vs it. This is huge and a good player will manipulate this to win the game. Gardevoir can add a 3-3 Wailord to even the match up though, but it reduces consistancy by a good deal.
Ampharos EX_ EASIEST MATCH EVER. AMpharos cannot OHKO your Blazikens so they run wild and any threats get KOed by Rayquaza. AMpharos cannot add more energy in play than normal and thus Blaziken swarms and not only can they trade off Rayquaza for anything ( ASSUMING they have Crystal Shard or Ditto for ur Ray ) but they cannot keep up as u have more threats powerable.
Aggron wailord- Aggron is WORTHLESS hear as it gets OHKOed by Rayquaza and only one Aggron is really powerable in one game, so therefore its Wailord vs the world here. Wailord does its job though, with Crystal Shards, OHKOing many things. Ampharos helps out here as offense, luring Wailords out. Wailord can give it a run if it gets set up first though, due to Crystal Shard. Still hard.
Muk EX- If it gets a good start it beats most Blaziken decks consistantly because it loses its consitant draw power and ability to recharge. Muks swarm reallly easily and Blaziken relies on its PPs. Rayquaza is the only real answer to killing Muks as they run Low Pressure System so that a Muk can survive 2 shots from a Blaziken.
Crystal Shard/Ditto- these cards can be added into any deck that can deal with Blaziken Swarms in order to beat Rayquaza and give u a decent chance at winning the match up sometimes.
NOW we look at a few things. What shows up as big threats? The following.
Wailord with Boost
Muk EX
Crystal Shard/Ditto
Wailord is a threat as it can be tossed into any deck as its colorless and canc ome out of no where due to Boost ENergy. Due to Shard as well, it can handle Rayquaza AND Blaziken and thus is a major threat. Now we have an issue. Lets add Blaziken EX into the equation. Blaziken is not OHKOable by Wailord, where as the rest of the deck used to be. It can deal 100 to the bench, and KO any Wailmers before they become Wailords. It can also deal 100 to a benched Wailord and if they attack you than they KO themselves. If you hit twice with a normal Blazikens attack, than it can OHKO a Wailord on the bench. Blaziken EX makes Wailord infinitely more managable and allows it so you can take a shot and not give up a prize and than get a KO on it. That is a HUGE advantage.
Muk EX is a huge threat because it makes you discard energy to all your energy to KO it with Rayquaza only to get a 2nd and than 3rd Muk active to beat down on you and KO Rayquaza. Now you have Blaziken EX. At BEAST Muk needs 3 hits to KO it. If you get him built up by turn 5, your KOing 2 Blaziken EX in a row, and by turn 7 or 8 you can kill 3 Muk EX. If they do not drop Muk EX against you than you get your powers. You nearly automatically beat Muk EX because of a lone Blaziken EX. That is absolutely unfair in every sense of the word.
Shard/Ditto- This card gives you an alternative big hitter to Rayquaza who is not as easily countered by Shard or Ditto. You have viable offense in Blaziken, Blaziken EX, AMpharos AND Rayquaza. No deck can fight them all off effectively. That is what is so inapprorpriate. TOO MANY THREATS that are impossible to prepare for them all.
SO Blaziken EX fits into the most consistant and deadly deck in the format currently, and not only defeats all of its major weaknesses which were not even that weak to begin with, but it gives it more versitility. It also makes it so that if you get a weak slow start you LOSE AUTOMATICALLY. If you do not get something offensive by turn 4, Blaziken EX is active and killing anything ur building and u just lost the game. THAT ALONE IS UNBALANCED. The threat for a card to come out and just lock down an entire game no matter what deck it is facing SHOULD NOT EXIST. That is a major reason why Slowking was banned. If you establish control with a Blaziken deck, and than bring up Blaziken EX, they cannot effectively ever recover. Say you OHKO whatever they have with a Rayquaza. You than bring up Blaz EX and they never get set up again. HOW IS THAT FAIR. Gardevoir cannot use its type advantage if its Gardevoir EX is OHKOed by a Rayquaza and whenever they lay downa Ralts it gets hit for 100 freaking damage!!! Rayquaza resets actives, killing their offense, and Blaziken EX preventsthem from ever recovering. Its not a theory guys. It happens every time. I have been testing it for a month after school every day. It happens JUST LIKE THAT. Alot of people hate me. Alot of people. But I think everyone knows I do really test, and that my opinions are decks are well founded. I dont make claims that are on no grounds.
Slowking was unbalanced because it never gave an opponent a fair chance to recover, or to start off a game even. Blaziken EX does the same exact thing but is added into an even more broken deck. Slowking had Muk, Igglybuff, and Magby as counters to it. Nothing is a counter to Blaziken EX. Say psychic all you want, say Water all you want, but Psychic will not single handedly beat a NORMAL BLAZIKEN RAYQUAZA DECK. You simply change strategies and crush it that way. The deck already beat water. THis just makes it easier as once your Rayquaza KOs their active they can never get a water guy set up with enough energy or evolutions ever again. Muk, and the other tech cards could be splashed into any deck. This card beats every type, and is a 100% Win vs anything NOT psychic or water. That is not fair. It is unhealthy to the format and makes for a stale game. Its not even worth testing anymore as NOTHING CAN BEAT IT.
ANother reason it is not fair is because their are no Gust Of Wind effects in this format AT ALL besides Salamence and Victreebel. Your effectively giving Blaziken, the best deck, a Gust Of Wind comboed with 100 damage. Your giving it an aspect of the game intentionally left OUT of this format for a REASON. Your giving the best deck an option that won entire games in all other formats!!! And ONLY to the best deck! That is so unbalanced it is not even funny. Blaziken Ex MUST be banned. I am EXTREMELY vocal about this beyond anything else I have ever been upset about in this game. Please listen agree. The only way things can be changed is if enough people are vocal. Those who are in support of this, speak out! Post your support! Email Nintendo your worries! They have done an AMAZING job thus far! They may listen!
http://community.webshots.com/photo/124132222/124132716rmMbuF
this wasn't doctored except for the text i put in it. Truk can vouge for it, as he's the one playing the deck. I know my deck wasn't anything special, but even with minor disruption (shaman and the mountain eater larvitar...) this still happened.
yea, ban this. its unstoppable. even when this WONT happen every game, it still happens, and even if this was like 4 turns down the road from that, it doesn't matter, it still wins. Once quazza eliminates your main attacker, blaze ex destroys ANYTHING that you can try and power. gg.
this wasn't doctored except for the text i put in it. Truk can vouge for it, as he's the one playing the deck. I know my deck wasn't anything special, but even with minor disruption (shaman and the mountain eater larvitar...) this still happened.
yea, ban this. its unstoppable. even when this WONT happen every game, it still happens, and even if this was like 4 turns down the road from that, it doesn't matter, it still wins. Once quazza eliminates your main attacker, blaze ex destroys ANYTHING that you can try and power. gg.
Carrington388
New Member
Anyone playing Unlimited should take their Fossil Aerodactyls out of mothballs. They can stop Blaziken EX from ever coming to be as long as Aerodactyl stays alive. (I do not recommend Aerodactyl EX as it's a Colorless Pokémon, which being Rock/Flying it shouldn't be (if you remember the strong and recessive types correctly, Rock is strong, Flying is not only recessive but it has no color descriptor, which means Aerodactyl can be Fighting only), and I strongly oppose playing off-type Pokémon.)
Tyranitar666
New Member
Carrington- Blaziken is not viable in Unlimited. I am only calling for it to be banned in Modified where it is so ungodly unbalanced.
TrueGamerX
New Member
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Join me my fellow pokemon players!
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Tyranitar666
New Member
TrueGamerX- Thank you for your support! Please kindly email Nintendos Organized Play department and let them know your feelings about Blaziken EX. I encourage all who agree with me to do so. Do it nicely though, no need to be rude.
Tyranitar666
New Member
I think the main thing people need to look at about the card is not the card on its own, but how the card plays into the overall scheme of a Blaziken Rayquaza decks strategy. Sure, if you look only at the card than it can be beaten but toss it in with the rest of the deck and its unstoppable...
TrueGamerX
New Member
I agree Tyranitar.
I would want to see more of a broader range of decks of the cards that we have. More elaborate decks to go up against, and not just BlazikenEX decks to ruin that for us.
I would want to see more of a broader range of decks of the cards that we have. More elaborate decks to go up against, and not just BlazikenEX decks to ruin that for us.
Tyranitar666
New Member
Beyond Blaziken EX this is a very fun format and the most balanced we have experienced yet. I really enjoy it but this card is too much. Im glad you agree with me.
To those of you who still do not feel convinced about the power of Blaziken EX:
Blaziken EX brings something to this format that no other card can- a pure and simple lockdown. This is what deckbuilders strive to achieve and what ultimately becomes our own dead end. Blaziken EX completes this incredible lockdown, and gives players no way out from turn 1. So far, out of every game I have palyed, every card I've seen, every move I've encountered, nothing has struck me as this close to an infallible lockdown. I didn't even need to pick up a card, all I had to do was read the logs of fellow players. THese players knew the right moves, the best strategies, in a calibur many players strive to reach, and they all succumbed to the power Blaziken EX has provided to a deck already dominating on its own.
There unfortunately isn't much we can do to find a weakness to the card and the deck, but we can remove its ability to shut down games for good by banning blaziken EX. It's that simple. Cards have been banned before, and look what happened to the formats once that happened. Sneasel from the ECSTS led to a wide variety of decks, the banning of SLowking freed many other decks from being forced to use them and helped make Neo-on one of the best formats ever. But this....this move is more neccessary than all the other bannings, or else in order to win we would need to build this same exact deck to win, and to have to be forced to play that during states or even worlds if the oppurtunity shows itself, then that's our faults for not letting Nintendo know. Nintendo is a fine company that does an outstanding job with the game, but it's the feedback form the gamers themselves or customers in fact that gives any business room to improve and do so accordingly.
Com'on, stop wasting time here and read this. E-Mail Nintendo OP. let them know, let other players know. Spread the word. WE rallied players to save the 15+ age division, we can easily rally players to ban Baziken EX which can be worse than no 15+ age division.
Blaziken EX brings something to this format that no other card can- a pure and simple lockdown. This is what deckbuilders strive to achieve and what ultimately becomes our own dead end. Blaziken EX completes this incredible lockdown, and gives players no way out from turn 1. So far, out of every game I have palyed, every card I've seen, every move I've encountered, nothing has struck me as this close to an infallible lockdown. I didn't even need to pick up a card, all I had to do was read the logs of fellow players. THese players knew the right moves, the best strategies, in a calibur many players strive to reach, and they all succumbed to the power Blaziken EX has provided to a deck already dominating on its own.
There unfortunately isn't much we can do to find a weakness to the card and the deck, but we can remove its ability to shut down games for good by banning blaziken EX. It's that simple. Cards have been banned before, and look what happened to the formats once that happened. Sneasel from the ECSTS led to a wide variety of decks, the banning of SLowking freed many other decks from being forced to use them and helped make Neo-on one of the best formats ever. But this....this move is more neccessary than all the other bannings, or else in order to win we would need to build this same exact deck to win, and to have to be forced to play that during states or even worlds if the oppurtunity shows itself, then that's our faults for not letting Nintendo know. Nintendo is a fine company that does an outstanding job with the game, but it's the feedback form the gamers themselves or customers in fact that gives any business room to improve and do so accordingly.
Com'on, stop wasting time here and read this. E-Mail Nintendo OP. let them know, let other players know. Spread the word. WE rallied players to save the 15+ age division, we can easily rally players to ban Baziken EX which can be worse than no 15+ age division.
EeveeTrainer
New Member
Alright now everyone is just assuming WAY too much here. First off all of you that are saying Blaze EX will be too powerful in the next roll out for modified Are only looking at what we have now and not at what will be. Think about it. If Blazekens are on the Bench there will be energy up on their field right? Well why not have SS Espeon take him out since he can splash into any deck out there. Eevee, Rare Candy, Espeon, Boost Energy and By bye. It's that easy. If not then Blastoise EX is probably on it's way and will likely touch down here before Fall (hopes) And if not do any of you know what is guaranteed in coming sets? No... So my deal? Relax. There are decks out there that can counter the Blaze EX and Gardy EX comes to mind in that. Anyone know about Wiggly EX in ADV 4? Just like the Jungle one but with 100 hp. That is broken my friends. Seriuosly though. Banning Blaze EX? What about banning Gardy while you're at it. But then what will be the big to do? Whatever replaces them will be what everyone complains about.
Short Version. Blaze EX is no more broken than Gardy EX. Both of which are very beatable.
-Saturn Knight
Short Version. Blaze EX is no more broken than Gardy EX. Both of which are very beatable.
-Saturn Knight
TrueGamerX
New Member
Yes I agree, Strike. I don't want Blaziken EX standing in my or anybody elses way when they go to the State Championships. I have been working, fixing, and testing my decks for months now since the last tournament that I had and to prepare for the States. I have studied the different strategies, and I don't want to let Blaziken EX bring everybody's hard work down.
I will see what I can do.
I will see what I can do.
Tyranitar666
New Member
EeveeTrainer- Gardevoir EX is NOT THAT GOOD. Its not even the best card in the game BEFORE Blaziken EX> Blaziken and Rayquaza are both better. I am not assuming anything, I get a jump start on testing the second I hear of cards. I already have decks being tested for what could be in the next set. I am on top of things lol.
Tyranitar666
New Member
ArticJedi- Its just as broken in practice. Rarely are decks but this one is one of them.
TrueGamerX said:
LoL what are you, the so called savior for the Pokemon TCG? I am sure people as a whole can develop strategies on their own.
I really don't think the game needs to go as far as banning this card form modified. Look at the Japan meta, its not all you hear about. But I think the obvious counter to Blaze EX is Suicune EX, which can OHKO. Comboed with Shard it can OHKO Ray without sending energies back. I mean its not that far fetched at all, and not impossible to beat.
Just give it some time after it is officially released and something will develop.
ToysRUsKid
Active Member
I agree with t-tar here, you all non-believers are acting like we are going to attack with Blaziken EX CONSTANTLY, which we are not. The only time we will be using it's attack mostly will be to kill the main bench sitter exp: Blaziken, Rayquaza, Delcatty, Ampharos, Gardevior, Furret etc.. If we need to kill an EX thats active, its simple, use Rayquaza. T-tar, Strike and the others have mostly said it all. It will act like a normal Blaze/Ray or Blaze/Ray/Amphy or now Manectric, by the swarming blaze, or the constant Quaza 120-160.
I also believe that you guys are assuming that to take down Blaze EX is soo easy, which it aint. Most of the time, it won't be active, so how are you going to kill it? Before you comment on how its not broken, play against it, when the person is acually set up turn 4-5.
~truK
I also believe that you guys are assuming that to take down Blaze EX is soo easy, which it aint. Most of the time, it won't be active, so how are you going to kill it? Before you comment on how its not broken, play against it, when the person is acually set up turn 4-5.
~truK
ColdCoates90
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The only thing I can think of to counter such a beast would be a Wob as active and Whiscashs on the bench, but they would just send in a Blaziken and start trying to ko it.
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